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 Post subject: Re: Nothing created everything
PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:13 pm 
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Somehow I just wish people would stop asking how and why and just accept it as just "is" and end of sentence.



I don't know if you're talking about this very topic or just in general, but either way that's a stupid and immature attitude.

Do you realize that if we accepted everything as it is without asking ourselves how come, for example, this phenomenon happens and the way it works, that'd just mean stopping progress (if any progress had happened to be, using your point of view)?

Elseway you could also be meaning that once something is explained, we should just accept it the way it is. That's even more foolish, lol..has it ever occurred to you that something even somehow widely accepted may be false? It has happened thousand times and it'll just keep on happenin'.

I really don't know why we shouldn't study aught concerning nature, Earth, space, humans (and humanity)and just let ourselves fall into ignorance, instead.


Yeah but why live in history though? Could be just me being lazy but I don't care for most old things, like vintage clothing and my grandparent's stories about the "good old days"...

Yes I'm that ignorant

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 Post subject: Re: Nothing created everything
PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:41 pm 
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Somehow I just wish people would stop asking how and why and just accept it as just "is" and end of sentence.



I don't know if you're talking about this very topic or just in general, but either way that's a stupid and immature attitude.

Do you realize that if we accepted everything as it is without asking ourselves how come, for example, this phenomenon happens and the way it works, that'd just mean stopping progress (if any progress had happened to be, using your point of view)?

Elseway you could also be meaning that once something is explained, we should just accept it the way it is. That's even more foolish, lol..has it ever occurred to you that something even somehow widely accepted may be false? It has happened thousand times and it'll just keep on happenin'.

I really don't know why we shouldn't study aught concerning nature, Earth, space, humans (and humanity)and just let ourselves fall into ignorance, instead.


Yeah but why live in history though? Could be just me being lazy but I don't care for most old things, like vintage clothing and my grandparent's stories about the "good old days"...

Yes I'm that ignorant


It's not just history, you know..
I'd really love to explain you more but I gotta catch a flight so I either let someone else tell you or I'll just do it when I'm back home.

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 Post subject: Re: Nothing created everything
PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:34 pm 
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Honestly.... i get mad at ppl who ask how are we here? big bang? god? allah? buddha? seriously who gives a shit just take whats given to you and enjoy the **** out of it... dont ask questions... dont ask why or how... just take it and live

Good, now return to stone age with a flat earth.


ohhh... now i get it... u were just trolling :P well i gave my point of view... never said anything about stone age or flat earth... but i guess ur too retarded to understand... whatever...

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 Post subject: Re: Nothing created everything
PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:06 pm 
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M3K0S wrote:
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Honestly.... i get mad at ppl who ask how are we here? big bang? god? allah? buddha? seriously who gives a shit just take whats given to you and enjoy the **** out of it... dont ask questions... dont ask why or how... just take it and live

Good, now return to stone age with a flat earth.


ohhh... now i get it... u were just trolling :P well i gave my point of view... never said anything about stone age or flat earth... but i guess ur too retarded to understand... whatever...

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 Post subject: Re: Nothing created everything
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 Post subject: Re: Nothing created everything
PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:55 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Nothing created everything
PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:22 am 
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but how?!

Edit: call me ignorant or whatever for not caring of how did we get here... but its the way i feel... and i certainly dont think its medieval

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 Post subject: Re: Nothing created everything
PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:08 am 
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Is there such a thing as a beginning or end? If no, then "Nothing created everything" wouldn't be an appropriate statement (question?) on existence

Energy transfers and so cannot be created/destroyed. My school of thought would be time is unlimited. The idea of you need a [thing] to create another [thing] is really the act of transferring


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 Post subject: Re: Nothing created everything
PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:36 am 
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but how?!

Edit: call me ignorant or whatever for not caring of how did we get here... but its the way i feel... and i certainly dont think its medieval

How do you feel about those who refer thunder to Zeus and the anger of God (it's what they thought in ancient time)? If everyone accepted at it is, there would be no discover of the weather.

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Is there such a thing as a beginning or end? If no, then "Nothing created everything" wouldn't be an appropriate statement (question?) on existence

Energy transfers and so cannot be created/destroyed. My school of thought would be time is unlimited. The idea of you need a [thing] to create another [thing] is really the act of transferring

So what's your idea? What kind of question should we ask? If things cannot be created, then it must always exist, in another form of energy. Or we have to consider the "nothing" is itself a kind of energy, a negative energy. But you're still in the cloud of confusion, why and how that always exists thing exist.

Wikipedia says that the conservation of energy can be violated
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That means that conservation of energy can appear to be violated, but only for small times. This allows the creation of particle-antiparticle pairs of virtual particles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_fluctuation

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 Post subject: Re: Nothing created everything
PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:34 pm 
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I remember watching/reading information on the collision between anti-particles and particles. Where on rare occasions a positive of the two is not destroyed. And from there more and more positive particles aren't destroyed which out weighs the negative. And then the universe begins

I like to approach the creation of everything without a beginning or end, because that to me is an old idea. Although I won't go far and say it's obsolete. Just conversation, we know how our universe works but not so much on how it is created or if it will ever end

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 Post subject: Re: Nothing created everything
PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:09 am 
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big boom booms in the sky are bad.. and im scared shitless of them... no joke

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 Post subject: Re: Nothing created everything
PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:33 am 
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These sort of topics tend to be the breathing grounds for religion flare. It's funny to see anti-knowledge statements


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 Post subject: Re: Nothing created everything
PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:22 am 
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I expect a lot more research before I start considering/looking into this theory for myself.

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 Post subject: Re: Nothing created everything
PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:09 pm 
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look for all god believers (am one of them) don't go vs science that's what i realised religion and science don't fit together how? simply science is objective science only deals with facts and evidence. the hole god and human relationship is based on faith. meaning you believe in him even though you never saw him or never can prove it. even though i believe in god. i do believe that human evolved that's the only explanation we can provide right now. i was one of those people who jumps on people say did we evolve from monkeys, so why don't monkeys evolve in the forest. that is actually was the most stupid thing i think i have said. the truth is that modern humans and certain of the apes followed their own evolutionary pathway after evolving from a common ancestor. you will go against it like most of the religious people you want prove ? check the fossils of dinosaurs. check the vibrate embryo, whats that ? its when a sperm and egg of a human combine that's what they form all the living things in the first stage look same. meaning you look at an embryo stage like a chicken like dog like all other creatures and then you evolve to a different thing! want more evidence? check birds, did you know that same species of birds have different sizes and shapes of peeks ? because by time it changes to try to adapt to the environment! meaning they look different but they are the same! a lot of people talk about how planets are formed with in two or three science your wrong that's a whole science field. go read about it! how our galaxy was formed! and to people who ask, so how first life was created or formed? (did you check the family guy vid! its actually kinda true starting from the water stage) it began at water i think it was archillia(if i am mistaken some one correct me) and yes I'm sure its in water. that's why if some one noticed CNN when they talked about they may have found a planet with some living creatures in it Code: Select all were ever there is water in a liquid state! there is a chance that life can be formed why? cuz water is the only stable environment that life can be formed from it. that doesnt mean life cant not be formed in any other place there was actually a kingdom forget the name it was sth like extreme lovers(forgot its taxonomy) some stuff are actually living in lava and extreme conditions. and if not mistaken when i studied organic chemistry your body is made from mainly organic molecules.. and organic molecules are made Nitrogen Carbon Hydrogen Oxygen(correct me if i am wrong). look any time you start threat about god vs science I'm know its wrong to say this science will win! cuz its all based on evidence and facts.. god is just theory which we didn't not prove it and most likely wont. science have limits it only deals with observed items. do you believe in god. that's actually a faith. if you go into any science field they will keep telling you keep your religious believe out of it!and that is actually a reason what srf mainly doron made me realise(which me I'm sure he didn't mean) god and science wont fit together and will never! that's why religion threats will always fail in srf and imo any other religious topic.


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 Post subject: Re: Nothing created everything
PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:55 pm 
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how is this tread has anything to do with God? :?

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 Post subject: Re: Nothing created everything
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i think i saw people mentioned :O god.. and i think we came by evolution thats why i explained it =/.. damn silo had to edit pop corn :x and del it :x

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 Post subject: Re: Nothing created everything
PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:19 pm 
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i think i saw people mentioned :O god.. and i think we came by evolution thats why i explained it =/.. damn silo had to edit pop corn :x and del it :x

That's why you should read the whole thread. Those who mentioned evolution is clearly trolls. Evolution explains how humans came into being, which has nothing to do with how the universe is created.

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