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 Post subject: Re: Occupy Wall street, Your Thoughts?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:11 am 
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Fiction posting some ignorant protester who makes terrible points doesn't further back-up or validate anything you said. Also laughed when the camera man stated that the top 1% pay more than 40% of America's taxes as if that was supporting his point that wealth distribution as is, appears to be fair.
I feel like you're getting stuck in the fans not the music dilemma when going to a gig. You might agree with what a message of theirs or enjoy some of the ideas there(music) but the people are ruining it for you. You need to get past this and support the vast majority in the movement who are protesting peacefully and not focus so much on the Faux News bullshit that they spit out.

The "riches" you claim that these people feel entitled to are as follows:
Free or affordable education (I don't understand why someone would wish for there to be a price on education)
Free or affordable healthcare (this one is a no brainer)
A greater distribution of wealth (don't worry the rich won't pay 40% of the taxes when the 15% of Americans poke their head above the poverty line and you have a stronger middle class)
Less corporate control (the speaker in your video fails to mention that though they pay one of the worlds highest corporate tax rates there are high earning corporations which receive ridiculous tax breaks)

Also in reply to your other link you posted as much as better budget balancing and sorting out tax exemption is great I can think or two giant wars and a military budget that account for almost 60% of your countries spending that should be cut down to size before social services. I also struggle to see the sense in cutting social services and assuming that leaving these people to fight, as they already do, in poverty as being beneficial to them. Tom Coburn also implies that it's a problem WITH rich people, almost that the OWS protesters are simply protesting the rich for being rich, this this isn't the case. Politicians are skimming over these protests with the same ignorance and lack of care that they have treated "Obamacare". I also had a quick laugh as they quoted him saying that "[he's] never seen violence like this..." as if the protesters are the ones inciting violence. I won't post the disgusting amount of police brutality and police state tactics to save you the time.

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 Post subject: Re: Occupy Wall street, Your Thoughts?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:42 am 
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The "riches" you claim that these people feel entitled to are as follows:
Free or affordable education (I don't understand why someone would wish for there to be a price on education)
Free or affordable healthcare (this one is a no brainer)
A greater distribution of wealth (don't worry the rich won't pay 40% of the taxes when the 15% of Americans poke their head above the poverty line and you have a stronger middle class)
Less corporate control (the speaker in your video fails to mention that though they pay one of the worlds highest corporate tax rates there are high earning corporations which receive ridiculous tax breaks)


This is kinda ridiculous to even be having this conversation... I'm talking to someone that believe free healthcare is a "no brainer".... Where and how were you raised? You are saying that "law" should allow money to be seized from everybody(or just tax payers) to pay for everybody(or just anybody)... I'm a man that believes you are entitled to what you earn, so forgive me if at first it is hard for me to wrap my shallow mind around such an absurd idea. They also want greater distribution of wealth? Why do you guys believe that; because there is a "gap" between the super rich and this middle class, that there needs to be wealth redistribution? I mean honest, what makes you believe this? What is the logic behind it? Why must you use the law to take from one man and give to another man who has not earned it out right. This country wouldn't be in such a mess if the government hadn't already done such a perversion.. Again I say, the out of control government is to blame for most of this, and I will never believe in this movement that thinks socialism is the solution.

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 Post subject: Re: Occupy Wall street, Your Thoughts?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:55 pm 
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Yes I do believe that if you are sick that you should be taken care of no matter your financial situation. What barbaric nation were YOU raised in that believes that those who have been unfortunate enough to not have the resources to pay for health insurance or other medical expenses that you should suffer-OH WAI

I encourage you to take a few moments to consider what people like Alan Greenspan or Larry Summers are going to do with millions upon millions of dollars and if they ARE in fact ENTITLED to that money when people try to make a living just as much and they have nothing. If you think it's right that people get bent over and farked by a system that caters to the rich then yes it's definitely ridiculous to be having this conversation.

Also greater distribution of wealth centers around there being more money to spend that would elsewhere be wasted. Do CEOs need private jets and yachts and stupidly expensive houses or do communities need better education, hospitals etc.? So yes I am saying that tax "laws" should govern that everything pays taxes to proportion. One man does not need hundreds of millions even tens of millions of dollars, a corporation should not be exempt from taxes, those sorts of things.

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