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Ya, im gonna start speakin in tongue and holding rattlesnakes as its a sign of the lord.... rofl

who actually wrote the bible?

we dont know for "sure" who wrote it but it is widely speculated and accepted that it was written by the following people:
e following books of the Bible are of unknown authorship:

Genesis

Exodus

Leviticus

Numbers

Deuteronomy

These books are traditionally assumed to have been written by Moses, though his authorship is not claimed internally. Since Deuteronomy records the death of Moses, it seems unlikely that he wrote it; certainly he didn't write the part that describes his death. Though some scholars would claim a composite authorship for these books starting around 950 BC with them reaching their final form during the time of Ezra around 500 BC, I would take a more conservative position and argue for a unitary authorship within fifty years of the Exodus (which would date from either around 1290 BC or 1440 BC; that is another whole area of controversy), with much of the material coming from Moses himself (not excluding some obvious editorial activity over the years; notice, for example, Deuternomy 2:10-12).

Joshua

Traditionally, many have claimed Joshua as the author of the book. But considering that the book describes Joshua's death at the end, and includes in the middle (specifically Joshua 15:13-19; cf. Judges 1:1, 9-15) an incident the occured after Joshua's death, it seems impossible that Joshua is the author. On the other hand, the reference to "we" and "us" in Joshua 5:1 and 5:6 perhaps suggests an eyewitness to the events was the author of the book. The book would thus date to either the 15th or 13th century BC, depending, again, upon exactly when the Exodus from Egypt occured.

Judges (c. 10th century BC)

Ruth (c. 10th century BC)

1-2 Samuel (8th-6th century BC)

1-2 Kings (6th-5th century BC)

1-2 Chronicles (400 BC would be the earliest possible date for composition)

Esther (5th century BC)

Job (c. 10th century BC at the earliest)

Lamentations

Traditionally the book has been ascribed to Jeremiah the prophet. There is, however, no statement in the book itself suggesting who the author might be, other than that he (or she) is obviously an eyewitness to the destruction of Jerusalem by the Babylonians (c. 586 BC).

Books with known authorship (either in part or in whole)

Psalms

A conglomerate written by many people. The authorship of individual psalms, as attributed by their titles, breaks down as follows (of the 150 psalms, 116 are provided with a title):

Moses - Psalm 90

Heman the Ezrahite - Psalm 88

Ethan the Ezrahite - Psalm 89

Solomon - Psalm 72, 127

David (73 times) - Psalms 3-9, 11-32, 34-41, 51-65, 68-70, 86, 103, 108-110, 122, 124, 131, 133, 138-145

Asaph (12 times) - Psalms 50, 73-83

Sons of Korah (9 times) Psalm 42, 44-45, 47-49, 84-85, 87

Author unknown - (49 times) the remainder

The Septuagint (an early Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible from around 200 BC) gives some additional authorship identification, as follows:

Jeremiah - Psalm 137

Haggai and Zechariah - Psalms 146-147

Ezra - Psalm 119

Hezekiah (15 times) Psalms 120-134

Though the titles prefaced to the Psalms clearly date back before 200 BC (since they appear in the Septuagint, along with the extras that translation gives), how authoratative they are is subject to much debate.

The psalms, based on the authorship attributions, would then date between the 15th century (or 13th, depending on the time of the Exodus) and the 5th century, by which time the book probably took the form it currently has.

Proverbs

Again, the book is a composite, so far as authorship is concerned.

1:1-24:22 is attributed to Solomon (thus dating to the 900's BC)

24:23-34 are attributed to "the wise"

25:1-29:27 are attributed to Solomon, but were collected and recorded by "Hezekiah's men".

30:1-33 is attributed to Agur

31:1-31 is attributed to Lemuel

Ecclesiastes

The book is attributed to Solomon by some. If that is the case, the book dates to the 900's BC. Others would argue for an unknown author, and put the date of composition around 390 BC.

Ezra-Nehemiah

They are treated as a single book in the Talmud, Josephus, and the Canon of Melito (AD 171). They are also treated as a single book in the Masoretic Text (traditional Hebrew Bible).

The author of the book of Ezra-Nehemiah is unknown, though Ezra 7-9 apparently were written by Ezra, since they are in the first person. The account in chapters 1-6 is compiled from records, including decrees (1:2-4; 6:3-12), genealogies and name lists (2), and letters (4:7-22; 5:6-17). There are two sections that have been preserve in Aramaic (4:8-6:18 and 7:12-26). Aramaic was the diplomatic language during this period. Sources for the section labled "Nehemiah" in our text include what appear to be memoirs of Nehemiah, written in the first person: Nehemiah 1:1-7:73a; 11:1-2; 12:31-43: 13:4-31.

The date of the final composition of the book is generally accepted as being sometime during the 4th century BC.

Song of Songs

The book is attributed to Solomon, which would place its date of composition in the 900's BC.

Isaiah

It is attributed to Isaiah; it consists several oracles given by him over several years (740-690 BC). Its final form as we have it (assuming a single, unitary authorship to the book) would thus be sometime during the 7th century BC.

Jeremiah

It is attributed to Jeremiah, who lived from about 627 to 580 BC.

Ezekiel

It is attributed to Ezekiel, who was born around 622 BC. Based on internal dating, the book covers the time from about 593 through about 570 BC.

Daniel

It is attributed to Daniel, and thus would have been written sometime between 605 BC and about 530 BC.

Hosea

Attributed to Hosea. His prophesies cover the period from 753-715 BC.

Joel

Attributed to Joel. The date of the book is uncertain, with dates ranging from the early pre-exilic (800's BC) to late post-exilic period (500-400 BC).

Amos

Attributed to Amos. Dates between 767 and 753 BC.

Obadiah

Attributed to Obadiah. Dates between 847 and 841 BC.

Jonah

Attributed to Jonah. Dates to the 700's BC.

Micah

Attributed to Micah. Dates between 740 and 695 BC.

Nahum

Attributed to Nahum. Two different dates are generally accepted as possibilities for Nahum's ministry: 661-612 BC or 722-701 BC.

Habakkuk

Attributed to Habakkuk. Dates to sometime between 612 and 587 BC.

Zephaniah

Attributed to Zephaniah. Dates sometime during the reign of Josiah (640-609 BC)

Haggai

Attributed to Haggai. It is possible to date his prophesies very exactly (since he gave us the precise day he uttered his prophesies):

1:1 August 29, 520 BC

1:15 September 21, 520 BC

2:19-20 December 18, 520 BC

Zechariah

Chapters 1-8 are attributed to Zechariah and can be dated precisely.

1:1 October, 520 BC

1:7 February 15, 519 BC

7:1 December 7, 518 BC

Chapters 9-14 were not written by Zechariah and cannot be easily dated. That they were not written by Zechariah is clear from both internal and external evidence.

9-11 were written by Jeremiah, according to Matthew 27:9-10, which quotes Zecharaiah 11:12-13 and attributes it to Jeremiah. The date would then be sometime between 627 and 580 BC

Chapters 12-14 are titled "an oracle" and are attributed to no one.

Malachi

Based on Mark 1:2-3, the book called "Malachi" was apparently actually written by Isaiah, since there the author of Mark quotes from "Malachi" but attributes it to Isaiah. The title "Malachi", taken from 1:1 is simply the Hebrew phrase "my messenger", and the word is so translated in 3:1.

The date of the book would then be sometime between 740 and 690 BC.

New Testament

Matthew

Attributed to Matthew. Probably written sometime between AD 55 and 75.

Mark

Attributed to John Mark. Probably written before AD 70, and before the books of Matthew or Luke were composed.

Luke

Attributed to Luke. Since the book of Acts (also attributed to Luke) was written afterward, and since Acts was apparently written before Paul's execution during the reign of Nero, the book of Luke is apparently relatively early, perhaps before AD 60.

John

Attributed to John. Probably composed between AD 85 and 90, though some scholars have suggested dates as early as AD 45 and as late as AD 110.

Acts

Attributed to Luke. Probably composed around AD 64 (Paul's imprisonment in Rome was from AD 61-63).

Romans
Attributed to Paul. Written AD 56 or 57.
1 Corinthians
Attributed to Paul. Written AD 55.
2 Corinthians
Attributed to Paul. Written AD 56.
Galatians
Attributed to Paul. Written AD 52
Ephesians
Attributed to Paul. Written AD 63.
Philippians
Attributed to Paul. Written between AD 59 and AD 61.
Colossians
Attributed to Paul. Written AD 62.
1 Thessalonians
Attributed to Paul. Written AD 50.
2 Thessalonians
Attributed to Paul. Written AD 50.
1 Timothy
Attributed to Paul. Written between AD 62 and AD 67.
2 Timothy
Attributed to Paul. Written between AD 62 and AD 67.
Titus
Attributed to Paul. Written AD 63.
Philemon
Attributed to Paul. Written between AD 56 and AD 62.

Hebrews

Traditionally Paul has been given credit for the book, though there is nothing in the book to suggest that he is the author; and from the standpoint of the style and structure of the book Pauline authorship is so unlikely as to be excluded as even reasonably possible. Written between AD 66 and AD 70 (certainly written before the destruction of Jerusalem AD 70).

James
Attributed to James. Written between AD 45 and AD 50.
1 Peter
Attributed to Peter. Written between AD 62 and AD 64.
2 Peter
Attributed to Peter. Written between AD 64 and AD 68.
1 John
Attributed to John. Written between AD 85 and AD 90.
2 John
Attributed to John. Written AD 90.
3 John
Attributed to John. Written AD 90.
Jude
Attributed to Jude. Written between AD 60 and AD 65.
Revelation
Attributed to John. Written between AD 54 and AD 68 or between AD 81 and AD 96.

u believe in the da vanci code?

sounds like it couldve happend imo

of course the roman catholic church manipulated it... THEY MANIPULATED EVERTHING back then lol

so what if the bible was written by just some dude?

wouldnt everybody feel completely retarded?

or would they still believe?

(not meant to be offensive im just curious >_<)

Would probably make them all kick them selves in their nuts ( or overies) if they found out if was fake. I for one dont believe in the bible thus I dont care

same here.

i saw the south park episode about scientology a few times. it is
funny that this stuff is actually written by "some dude" and most
ppl find scientologists weirdos and dumb and all.. but come to
think of it.. christians might also believe in a book written by just
some dude lolz why is that so different. i find a never seen god,
a person that walks over water, somebody who snapped his fingers
to create land, etc. just as hard to believe as a space lord that
brainwashed humans minds.

"puts on anti god brainwashing tin foil helmet"

rofl +1!

theres ppl that actually wear those!

I like your cats anti dog melon helmet XD

too bad it seems there isnt any scientologists or buddhists or
anything on the forum.. most discussions about this topic that
im in are between christians and atheists id like to hear the
opinion from ppl with a different religion.

I dont think this is an appropiate discussion

explain yourself.

we say our points not to believe
they say their points to believe
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discussion

Im buddhist <.< and im WHITE! well 1/3 japanese but still.

Because scientologist believe in "soul catchers"

christians believe in some dude walking over water,some dude that died, removed a huge rock on his own and flew to heaven (body never found).. sounds just as hard to believe imo.

i asked my teacher this and she said



but scientologists believe thats what actually happened

good point.

but still, the bible has too many flaws imo. i have spoken to christians
that read the bible and told me that did not make them believe any
more than they did. in a way, the bible contains a lot of contradictions
and wrong information.

and it can be said that the bible "is not to be taken literally", but as in
any religion, there are people who do and people who dont do this.

On the news where i am the sheikh wanted our prime minister to convert to muslim or he will die or sumfin People like that...

rofl..

in the netherlands, muslims are allowed NOT to give the queen a hand
LOL. the friggin queen of the country that welcomes em all with open
arms and throws money at em and they dont want to shake hands..
because the koran sais something about not to shake hands with a
female.. same thing as with the bible.. they take it to literally -_-"

the netherlands are kindof farked up. too many cultures have entered
the country. at first we were all real tolerant and didnt really mind em
coming to our country if there were war at theirs.. but nowadays..

we must respect their religion. they can walk around on the
streets wearing a scarf that hides their whole face. they are
allowed not to shake hands with female politicians, even the
queen...

but if we dare to say ANYTHING about it its called discrimination

talk about the world upside down..
boy i am glad when i leave that country for good..

Ya people take scriptures way too seriously lol, but who am I to talk. I am an "infidel" lol w/e (someone who I wont name pmed me and said allah will kill all infidels blahblahblahblahblah)

rofl he better take a big gun with him then.

lol there was this bitch on tv that was lexophobic or sumfin around those lines (i forget the name but its the pobia where ur afraid of evrythng foreign) i thknk her name was pauleen hansen. She goes on tv then starts going on bout how the asians will take over the country. Now its the lebanese. She went to jail for it the fvkn whore

i think the term is xenophobic but I could be wrong

Xenophobia is a fear or hatred of foreigners or strangers.[1] It comes from the Greek words ξένος (xenos), meaning "foreigner," "stranger," and φόβος (phobos), meaning "fear." The term is typically used to describe fear or dislike of foreigners or in general of people different from one's self.

according to wikipedia you're right. <_<;

yer thats it

I are teh walkin dictionary ( no lie, that was my nick name in highschool, yes im a smart metal head... go figure! and I dont look geeky in the least o.O)

Good for you, stay out of the thread then.

+1.