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 Post subject: PC wont start up, (getting software back. HELP!)
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:36 am 
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Well am writing this on my crappy old laptop because yesterday as i turned off my PC
i got an automatic windows update, and it installed fine up until it got to 90% and then
my PC just turned off :palm:

And now i cant get past the boot up screen (only get up to the windows screen with
that bar that loads up right before password input), i have tried to fix the problem
which diagnosed the problem as being a driver that didnt install correctly, but it
couldnt fix said problem.

And before its mentioned i dont have a start up disk or vista install disk...my PC
never came with one, everything was already installed :rant: :soosad: :palm:
thought about calling Microsoft but am sure i can solve this problem before phoning
those monkeys

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:48 am 
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i feel like i read about a patch microsoft released to counter a virus...its solution was you couldn't start up windows. From my understanding they fix'd it in a later patch but that was awhile ago so don't think it would affect you now =/

sorry i'm not much help

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:58 am 
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no problem its ok, i think i may of found a solution, giving it go right now. If this
doesnt work will let you know :sohappy:

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:19 am 
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Can you boot it up with safe mode?

If you can try start it up in safe and use system restore.

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:41 am 
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deathgod11 wrote:
Can you boot it up with safe mode?

If you can try start it up in safe and use system restore.


i cant, no safe mode or anything...its like the boot sequence is whats messed up :soosad:

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
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i think your best option is to ask friends/family if they have a disk that you can you, other wise idk what to do =s

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
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yea...going to need the vista disk.
I tried ringing microsoft....and the assholes told me they would charge me just to help
me and that even then they couldn't promise anything :rant: :nowant: :rant:

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
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Question: if i use system recovery to restore to original factory shipped condition
do i lose all my files and such? :giveup:

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
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You probably do. And is there still a warranty on the pc? If yes just bring it to the shop you've bought it. No stress for you :)

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
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3 years old on a 12 month warranty :x

Ill just get an vista disk and reinstall vista, while trying to keep my files
and programs :yay: :yay:

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:11 am 
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Get a Windows 7 disk. When you upgrade it will move all your old files to windows.old, archiving everything.

If you install Vista on top of Vista you will be forced to reformat, as far as I remember.

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
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thanks, ill get an windows 7 disk then :D

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
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satman83 wrote:
thanks, ill get an windows 7 disk then :D


When you did the update did you have an external hdd conected to your computer? If so might wana try pluging it in, before starting up, or just try a few combinations...

Same exact thing happened with my laptop, same story, same problem, black screen after boot, dont wana go to log in screen e.t.c and i noticed my external HDD was pluged in, so i played around tried to start my pc with and without the hdd and i finally got it to work...

Hope that this will help.. otherwise good luck

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
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dom wrote:
Get a Windows 7 disk. When you upgrade it will move all your old files to windows.old, archiving everything.

If you install Vista on top of Vista you will be forced to reformat, as far as I remember.


Okay well it didnt work, got an error message about missing files when i tried to
install Windows 7 twice ¬_¬ :palm:

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
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There's a fix for that. I don't remember what it is bt I had the same problem on my laptop.

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
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dom wrote:
There's a fix for that. I don't remember what it is bt I had the same problem on my laptop.


Hes also got a disk for the 64bit version (twas using 32bit), so ill give that a go
first.
How would i use a fix when i cant get past boot screen? :palm: , lol god i hate windows

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
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system restore, use it.

should be f8 or f10 or something of the sort to give you a list of boot up options, choose recovery console.

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system restore, use it.

should be f8 or f10 or something of the sort to give you a list of boot up options, choose recovery console.


Tried that, doesnt work. It tells me that i have no previous system restore points
and the other options are useless as well.

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
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satman83 wrote:
dom wrote:
There's a fix for that. I don't remember what it is bt I had the same problem on my laptop.


Hes also got a disk for the 64bit version (twas using 32bit), so ill give that a go
first.
How would i use a fix when i cant get past boot screen? :palm: , lol god i hate windows


Found the fix, seems a certain registry file has to be deleted for Windows 7 to
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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
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Well nothing i have tried has worked, i thought i found a fix around the windows 7
install problem, but wont work.

So unless someone has a sure fire way....am going to reset to factory settings :giveup: :soosad: :nowant:

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
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satman83 wrote:
So unless someone has a sure fire way....am going to reset to factory settings :giveup: :soosad: :nowant:
Oh dear, that sucks... but that would definitely work! lulz

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
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well i did it...current going through the windows set up :giveup:

When its done ill get Windows 7 installed and deactivate windows updates :palm:

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i cant find the box my network card came with, so i had to reopen my PC to get its
make so i could download the drivers on my laptop, then transfer to my PC... :x

As soon as net is back...task of reinstalling steam and all my games begins :P

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
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Hey, okay PC getting back to normal...but how do i get steam to signin
automatically eveytime i start up?

i cant see this option any where ;p :palm:

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satman83 wrote:
Hey, okay PC getting back to normal...but how do i get steam to signin
automatically eveytime i start up?

i cant see this option any where ;p :palm:


its in the options

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, (getting software back. HELP!)
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god i hate it when you have to reinstall programs that are hard to come
by.

I had this good .flv file player but i cant find it for love or money, plus
several websites where i got my collection of old games from (old old dos
games) dont exist any more :palm: :giveup:

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satman83 wrote:
god i hate it when you have to reinstall programs that are hard to come
by.

I had this good .flv file player but i cant find it for love or money, plus
several websites where i got my collection of old games from (old old dos
games) dont exist any more :palm: :giveup:
Well, it's a smart idea to back up your data to disk..
in case something happens to your computer.. xD

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Well, it's a smart idea to back up your data to disk..
in case something happens to your computer.. xD


hindsight is a beautiful thing my friend :yay: :yay:

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vlc player?

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 Post subject: Re: PC wont start up, (getting software back. HELP!)
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nop....i cant remember what it was called ;p
lol.
I think this is a good opportunity to update/get new and better programs

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