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http://vimeo.com/37119711 Hey guys just saw this video floating around my Facebook news feed and thought that this is actually a video that people should all see. Long story short its about Joseph Kony leader I believe of the LRA rebels who capture kids and basically turn them into mindless murderers. If your not into this stuff then fine ignore it but please pass this along.
I've read reports about the LRA a few years back. One of the most disturbing ones was a personal account by a child who escaped from their training camps. She revealed a lot about their brutal methods of indoctrination and punishment for trying to escape. One involved forcing the children to behead one boy for trying to escape from camp; they were forced to toss his head several times to stimulate "playing" and then left his decapitated corpse to decompose in public sight as a reminder to others. Sick.
Also...if you happen to pass by their territory, take note never to ride a bicycle on the day of "Sabbath" or you might find a machete hacking away your legs.
Saw the video..great find man.
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It's sad how easy we can name a dozen countries where these kinds of atrocities occur on a daily basis yet, however much we think we want to care, we find ourselves apathetic and offer more excuses than solutions. Not just incidents involving genocide like what happened in Rwanda and Darfur, but places like your own city where the same crimes like rape, human trafficking, and murder occur on a smaller scale. Maybe we're just brought up to ignore these issues or even ridicule the idea of "wasting" money and effort in trying to stop it; or is there just a certain point when we become desensitized to this sickness, lose hope in humanity, and find ourselves apathetic? Well, it's something to ponder upon.
I will post the exact same thing I posted on Facebook about it. My opinion may be very naive, hypocritical, unjustified rah rah rah but frankly I really don't care about that. My opinion is based on the reactions of people whom I know personally and are a reflection on both their daily state of mind and the way they have handled this "event".
MrTwilliger on the Facebooks wrote:
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not "that" much of an arrogant prick. But I really dislike this whole Kony thing is becoming a bit of a fad. Don't like to me, we all know this sort of abuse goes on in the world. From third world countries to first world ones like our own people are being abused, neglected, raped, mistreated and exploited. It's happened since the dawn of time and will happen till the end of it too. Yet, from my own observations, despite everyone having this knowledge we only seem to care when it's directly in our faces. Take away the cameras and what happens? No one gives a shit. People still starve, people are still neglected and lives continue to be ruined. So hell, maybe I am just a prick, but it seems like people only give a shit when it suits them well to. Just a very cynical and anti-humanity thought.
Be that as it may, Twil, I'll take a note from Machiavelli and say that in this scenario, the ends justifies the means. However repugnant and ridiculous it may be that such atrocities give birth to a fad, the aim here to promote awareness and influence the people in power to do something about it. Even if it's just in the form of some half-assed military security line, a relatively minute amount of funding, or a tiny sanctuary in Uganda, it still makes a difference. I'm not sure if this movement will be enough to truly force hands to put a stop to Kony's reign but at least some good can and has come out of it.
As far as truly caring about what happens to these people, you're right, even though we know about it, without the cameras, the posters, the t-shirts, the bracelets, and the fad, no one really gives a shit. It reminds me of something I heard from the movie Hotel Rwanda: people see the footage on their TV and say "oh my God that's horrible" and then they go on eating their dinner. Cynical and hateful but it is the reality most of us are afraid to admit because it includes us and our inaction. We may be well-educated about it or some of us may even be bothered to take a few seconds to pray for them, but between watching Seinfeld, work, and surfing ebay for a new table lamp, deep down, we just don't feel like honestly giving two shits about what happens across the ocean. Hell, we barely even care about what occurs in our own neighborhoods and we're talking about sending money to fucking Africa?!
Well, Twil, that's why we need this type of publicity. I don't care if people have to bullshit themselves into believing that they care as long as it gets the job done. It doesn't matter whether it's a fad or an honest passion-driven revolution as long as it generates funding and mass support. If it makes politicians' heads turn and gets military power deployed, then I'm all for it. Why support it if I know it's just a fad? Because simply being cynical and criticizing it accomplishes less.
I will post the exact same thing I posted on Facebook about it. My opinion may be very naive, hypocritical, unjustified rah rah rah but frankly I really don't care about that. My opinion is based on the reactions of people whom I know personally and are a reflection on both their daily state of mind and the way they have handled this "event".
MrTwilliger on the Facebooks wrote:
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not "that" much of an arrogant prick. But I really dislike this whole Kony thing is becoming a bit of a fad. Don't like to me, we all know this sort of abuse goes on in the world. From third world countries to first world ones like our own people are being abused, neglected, raped, mistreated and exploited. It's happened since the dawn of time and will happen till the end of it too. Yet, from my own observations, despite everyone having this knowledge we only seem to care when it's directly in our faces. Take away the cameras and what happens? No one gives a shit. People still starve, people are still neglected and lives continue to be ruined. So hell, maybe I am just a prick, but it seems like people only give a shit when it suits them well to. Just a very cynical and anti-humanity thought.
I don't exactly get your point. Even if "we" only started caring when it was directly in our faces, it doesn't make the whole thing a fad. I mean at the end of the day, we're still raising awareness on the situation. Giving a shit about this whole Kony thing doesn't exactly suits us in any particular way? We're not gaining anything from it. If anything, this is another case of "faith in humanity restored". Something that doesn't directly affect us but we still care about. Just seems (to me), that you're hating on it because its now mainstream.
Obviously this "bastard" needs to be stopped... but there are 100s more like him all over the world and I can bet they won't do anything about them.
Again, so what? It doesn't falsify (for lack of better words) the Kony2012 situation. And I can bet that if these other "bastards" are brought upon public eye like Kony, then they to will be known for their actions.
on the other hand i see people claiming this is a scam and its just graffiti and kony is being searched for anyway... or isnt kidnapping children etc etc...
the internet is still the internet, so im not sure whats true about kony =S
but typing kony2012 on everything is starting to get a bit rediculous... when i grow up i want to be in government where i just sit and watch twitter # tag's for news.
And I can bet that if these other "bastards" are brought upon public eye like Kony, then they to will be known for their actions.
True.. spreading the word about this issue is a good thing But the question is, Why do they need our money? Well.. If this is all Just to make money, then I find it sickening.
Here are some of the expenses from their financial report. ExpenseTotal Film Costs $357,000 Production Costs $851,000 Travel $1,000,000 <--I think they bring Uganda kids to the US? Not sure. Rent $398,000 Professional Services $245,000 <----This is the lobbyist payment, I think. Compensation $1,700,000 <---They pay themselves (the main 3 guys) about $90k a year for 55 hours of work per week.
Direct Services $2,810,000 <---This is how much is getting through to the Uganda kids.
Almost every single one of my Subscriptions on Youtube liked this video and I seen it in my news feed. So I was like O.O must watch this. Over 600k likes in 24 hours. That's fucking Awesome. This can't be ignored now. I remember a couple years ago seeing the first video this guy put out and it didn't get much attention.
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Skyve wrote:
And I can bet that if these other "bastards" are brought upon public eye like Kony, then they to will be known for their actions.
True.. spreading the word about this issue is a good thing But the question is, Why do they need our money? Well.. If this is all Just to make money, then I find it sickening.
If you watched the video, you would know it's not about the money. This guy has traveled to Uganda many times and put his life on the line. If anything it shows that a few people can make a difference for thousands. All they ask is for a couple dollars. Imagine if every adult person in the US alone gave up $10 one time.
Here are some of the expenses from their financial report. ExpenseTotal Film Costs $357,000 Production Costs $851,000 Travel $1,000,000 <--I think they bring Uganda kids to the US? Not sure. Rent $398,000 Professional Services $245,000 <----This is the lobbyist payment, I think. Compensation $1,700,000 <---They pay themselves (the main 3 guys) about $90k a year for 55 hours of work per week.
Direct Services $2,810,000 <---This is how much is getting through to the Uganda kids.
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something to consider
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Uganda is no longer experiencing violence from the LRA. Yes, I said it. It’s an uncomfortable truth, but it is a truth. For about the last year, since before IC hit the scene, Kony and his troops have been pushed into Congo, into the Garamba National Forest there. He’s sick, starving, and on his last legs. For the first time, Uganda is in the middle of real peace talks and the rebels have laid down their arms and are assembling to make peace. Why? This is happening because Joseph Kony was defeated. The Uganda People’s Defense Force (UPDF) has beaten them back and Kony was sitting in Congo starving to death. Since March 2002, the UPDF has been allowed to carry out raids against the LRA into Southern Sudan and has even crossed into Congo, to the distress of most of the African community. Nonetheless, Operation Iron Fist, as this military offensive was called, has freed many child soldiers and sex slaves and brought them back to Uganda. from: http://ilto.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/th ... -children/
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Exiled to a fiefdom on the border of southern Sudan and the Congo, Mr. Kony in 2007 emerged from the wilderness indicating a willingness to sign a historic peace deal with the Ugandan government that would disband his army.
tldr; this documentary was partially filmed in 2003 most of it is 9 years outdated. today Kony is hiding in some forest in congo, the national Ugondan army has basically driven out he LRA. uganda today is experiencing a time of relative peace.
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Come on people. Its nice and all that it raised awareness (even though you should have already known this happens around the world not only in uganda) but dont just donate and follow a cause blindly based on a 30min video. Gotta love the human race.
Come on people. Its nice and all that it raised awareness (even though you should have already known this happens around the world not only in uganda) but dont just donate and follow a cause blindly based on a 30min video. Gotta love the human race.
Oddly enough i saw this video just yesterday on a different forum o.O
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If anyone want a youtube link
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The amount of stupidity in this forum is too damn high.
You don't have to care about their "movement", the point of the video was to spread the word about Kony, and it did that very effectively. You don't need to vandalize the streets and protest like a twat, you just need to show your support to keep the small amount of troops in Africa to help the local military catch Kony.
And for all you people saying "blah blah there will always be another derp derp", if this campaign is successful, it is a message to all others that if the people of the world really stand together, they can actually make a difference and stop these war criminals.
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