Post subject: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:09 pm
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I've never seen this before..real crazy...This dude is just...empty..gone...cold....But then again I don't know what he feels they've done to him for him to not care at all about their loss....He said he's gonna masturbate to the memory of killing their sons in that second video....Seems like he's dead on the inside to me.... He got three life sentences without the possibility of parole....I wonder how he'll feel in the next 40 years or so if he still alive...
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Post subject: Re: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:18 pm
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Why would his attorney allow him to wear a shirt that says "KILLER" ? He seemed pretty guilty and proud of it, why wouldn't he just admit to it and be done with it? Oh yeah, he's crazy, that's probably why.
Post subject: Re: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:49 pm
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I think he's already admitted to it (or was already found guilty)...This was just the families saying a last word to him and him to them....As for the shirt it's his jail shirt that he snuck into court under his regular jail clothes...
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Post subject: Re: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:03 am
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If he was already found guilty why would the family members this sounds more like what the prosecutor would tell the family members to do so that the jury would want to give a guilty verdict but I didn't fallow the case so I have no idea.
Why would the family members do that if he was already found guilty? For closure maybe? It seems like he was getting off on hearing them speak about how much they will miss their family members. I would not have obliged him.
Post subject: Re: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:03 am
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Victim impact statements are given after the guilty verdict during sentencing. The judge decides on a sentence after the victim impact statements are given.
The kid probably plead guilty and was awaiting his sentencing.
Post subject: Re: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:12 am
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I'm sure he's going to look mighty cute in that shirt when he has an 8 inch cock rammed up his ass.
I was thinking the same thing. OP mentioned he said he was going to masturbate to the memory and stuff. I don't think he'll have time while he's being passed around from convict to convict.
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Post subject: Re: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:47 am
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I'm sure he's going to look mighty cute in that shirt when he has an 8 inch cock rammed up his ass.
8 inches, that's it?
I see what he's doing, we've all done it before. If I was getting sentenced to prison for 300 years I'd probably do the same. Might as well go out with a bang, eh?
$10 says he won't be smiling when somebody makes him their bitch for the next 50 years.
Post subject: Re: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:01 am
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They blamed it on him being bullied so he picked out 3 random kids and killed them. Some people just do not have the same view on human life as most of us. He's probably gonna become some reformed christian at age 53 and beg to be released by a governor or the president. Unfortunately he will probably do fine in prison, most inmates want to do their time and gtfo not **** with some psychopathic teenager who will probably be in solitary for assaulting a guard anyway.
Post subject: Re: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:36 am
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He will be in a prison with other freaky psychopaths... and in solitary confinement for the rest of his life.
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INSIDE THE MIND OF A KILLER: THE FULL LETTER HE POSTED TO FACEBOOK The following was allegedly posted by T.J. Lane on his Facebook page on December 20, 2011: In a time long since, a time of repent, The Renaissance. In a quaint lonely town, sits a man with a frown. No job. No family. No crown. His luck had run out. Lost and alone.
The streets were his home. His thoughts would solely consist of "why do we exist?" His only company to confide in was the vermin in the street. He longed for only one thing, the world to bow at his feet. They too should feel his secret fear. The dismal drear. His pain had made him sincere. He was better than the rest, all those ones he detests, within their castles, so vain. Selfish and conceited.
They couldn't care less about the peasents they mistreated. They were in their own world, it was a joyous one too. That castle, she stood just to do all she could to keep the peasents at bay, not the enemy away. They had no enemies in their filthy orgy. And in her, the castles every story, was just another chamber of Lucifer's Laboratory. The world is a sandbox for all the wretched sinners. They simply create what they want and make themselves the winners. But the true winner, he has nothing at all. Enduring the pain of waiting for that castle to fall. Through his good deeds, the rats and the fleas. He will have for what he pleads, through the eradication of disease. So, to the castle he proceeds, like an ominous breeze through the trees. "Stay back!" The Guards screamed as they were thrown to their knees. "Oh God, have mercy, please!"
The castle, she gasped and then so imprisoned her breath, to the shallow confines of her fragile chest. I'm on the lamb but I ain't no sheep. I am Death. And you have always been the sod. So repulsive and so odd. You never even deserved the presence of God, and yet, I am here. Around your cradle I plod. Came on foot, without shod. How improper, how rude. However, they shall not mind the mud on my feet if there is blood on your sheet.
Now! Feel death, not just mocking you. Not just stalking you but inside of you. Wriggle and writhe. Feel smaller beneath my might. Seizure in the Pestilence that is my scythe. Die, all of you.
Post subject: Re: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:25 pm
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*BlackFox wrote:
He will be in a prison with other freaky psychopaths... and in solitary confinement for the rest of his life.
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INSIDE THE MIND OF A KILLER: THE FULL LETTER HE POSTED TO FACEBOOK The following was allegedly posted by T.J. Lane on his Facebook page on December 20, 2011: In a time long since, a time of repent, The Renaissance. In a quaint lonely town, sits a man with a frown. No job. No family. No crown. His luck had run out. Lost and alone.
The streets were his home. His thoughts would solely consist of "why do we exist?" His only company to confide in was the vermin in the street. He longed for only one thing, the world to bow at his feet. They too should feel his secret fear. The dismal drear. His pain had made him sincere. He was better than the rest, all those ones he detests, within their castles, so vain. Selfish and conceited.
They couldn't care less about the peasents they mistreated. They were in their own world, it was a joyous one too. That castle, she stood just to do all she could to keep the peasents at bay, not the enemy away. They had no enemies in their filthy orgy. And in her, the castles every story, was just another chamber of Lucifer's Laboratory. The world is a sandbox for all the wretched sinners. They simply create what they want and make themselves the winners. But the true winner, he has nothing at all. Enduring the pain of waiting for that castle to fall. Through his good deeds, the rats and the fleas. He will have for what he pleads, through the eradication of disease. So, to the castle he proceeds, like an ominous breeze through the trees. "Stay back!" The Guards screamed as they were thrown to their knees. "Oh God, have mercy, please!"
The castle, she gasped and then so imprisoned her breath, to the shallow confines of her fragile chest. I'm on the lamb but I ain't no sheep. I am Death. And you have always been the sod. So repulsive and so odd. You never even deserved the presence of God, and yet, I am here. Around your cradle I plod. Came on foot, without shod. How improper, how rude. However, they shall not mind the mud on my feet if there is blood on your sheet.
Now! Feel death, not just mocking you. Not just stalking you but inside of you. Wriggle and writhe. Feel smaller beneath my might. Seizure in the Pestilence that is my scythe. Die, all of you.
Well this poem sorta clears things up for me... Seems he was having difficulty coping with the social atrocities around him...(or how he was perceiving it)... However his concerns doesn't outweighs people's rights and wishes to live...
He has now entered a non-metaphorical castle of concrete and steel controlled by the very same people he detests...only to be their bitch within it...He ought to kill himself to stay true to his beliefs...
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Post subject: Re: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:48 pm
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people like this should undergo some sort of torture... sensory deprivation, water boarding, extreme stimulation or something of that likeliness for multiple years
Post subject: Re: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:51 pm
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torture would do nothing, if he regrets nothing now he won't regret it if hes in pain. All torture does is give people a sick sense that he got his. Seems like the poem was about the plaque, I highly doubt he wrote it.
Post subject: Re: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:03 pm
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BuDo wrote:
I wonder what made him this way....What drove him to this behavior...The killings and then rubbing it into the families faces...
my though, people get to emotional over those stuff and always get angry and ask for some kind of revenge on the person while this guy did nothing wrong to them.
''he should be fried'' ''hope he's gonna get raped''
Those kind of shit always make me laugh, the real victim here is the killer imo, guy must have been through some rough shit to get to this point and im pretty sure his life have been pretty hard and sad.
remind me of Guy turcotte here in québec, a doctor who killed his own kids because he had some issue with his ex wife. people went batshit nut calling him a monster and stuff, said he should be killed and all. I'd rather be the kid who got killed than the man who flipped out and killed his own blood then will have to live with this memory for the rest of his life.
Post subject: Re: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:10 pm
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Those kind of shit always make me laugh, the real victim here is the killer imo, guy must have been through some rough shit to get to this point and im pretty sure his life have been pretty hard and sad.
No, he's weak. He let all this turn him into a psycho. He gave up.
Post subject: Re: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:21 pm
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I Am Vegeta wrote:
Those kind of shit always make me laugh, the real victim here is the killer imo, guy must have been through some rough shit to get to this point and im pretty sure his life have been pretty hard and sad.
No, he's weak. He let all this turn him into a psycho. He gave up.
That's the problem, That exact mentality. "He's weak he should have been able to handle it" Not all of us are carbon copies of one another, some people cannot handle the same amount of pain as others. If we had compassion and actually helped others instead of using the "he's a man he should be able to handle it" mentality we wouldnt be having these issues.
Post subject: Re: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:22 pm
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A second victim of the teenage student who allegedly opened fire at Chardon High School in Ohio has died.
Russell King, Jr., 17, was pronounced brain dead at 12:42 a.m. at Ohio's MetroHealth Medical Center, according to the Cuyahoga County Medical Examiner's Office. The alleged shooter who killed two and wounding three others has been identified as T.J. Lane, according to a fellow student who witnessed the incident and ABC News' Cleveland affiliate WEWS.
The attack left "friends laying all over the place" in puddles of blood, one student told ABC News. Nate Mueller, a junior at the school, was having breakfast with three friends when he heard a loud pop like a firecracker about 7:45 a.m., he told ABC News.
A friend yelled, "Duck" and Mueller told ABC News he turned to see fellow student Lane standing by his table. Mueller said Lane took a second shot and saw a friend get hit.
"He was over the table in a pool of blood," Mueller said, and another pal "was on the floor in a puddle of blood next to him."
A third friend "had not been hit yet as I jumped over him," Mueller said.
Mueller got on the floor and was trying to crawl away when a shot rang out and he felt a bullet graze his ear. He was not badly injured, he said, with just a small red mark left on his ear.
Post subject: Re: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:27 pm
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I Am Vegeta wrote:
BuDo wrote:
I wonder what made him this way....What drove him to this behavior...The killings and then rubbing it into the families faces...
my though, people get to emotional over those stuff and always get angry and ask for some kind of revenge on the person while this guy did nothing wrong to them.
''he should be fried'' ''hope he's gonna get raped''
Those kind of shit always make me laugh, the real victim here is the killer imo, guy must have been through some rough shit to get to this point and im pretty sure his life have been pretty hard and sad.
remind me of Guy turcotte here in québec, a doctor who killed his own kids because he had some issue with his ex wife. people went batshit nut calling him a monster and stuff, said he should be killed and all. I'd rather be the kid who got killed than the man who flipped out and killed his own blood then will have to live with this memory for the rest of his life.
Your story reminds me of the final remarks in shutter island: "I'd rather die as a hero than live as a monster.
I have to disagree with your sentiments though because they don't really apply to him due to his lack of remorse. Sure, the mental suffering he has been through would be difficult to contemplate. But I feel that, given his attitude in those videos, he won't be living in misery with the memory of his terrible deeds. He wore a shirt saying killer to the victim statement and stated he would pleasure himself to the memory of the incident. Clearly there is no remorse or care in his heart.
Furthermore, the victims are dead. They had no choice in the decision and can't reverse it. At any time if it all becomes "too much" for him then he can kill himself. He can take the easy way out at any moment. His victims don't get that choice. You would rather be the victim Vegeta? Then put a bullet in your head after the act and it's pretty much the same result.
Post subject: Re: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:37 pm
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Aventus wrote:
Sanktum wrote:
I Am Vegeta wrote:
Those kind of shit always make me laugh, the real victim here is the killer imo, guy must have been through some rough shit to get to this point and im pretty sure his life have been pretty hard and sad.
No, he's weak. He let all this turn him into a psycho. He gave up.
That's the problem, That exact mentality. "He's weak he should have been able to handle it" Not all of us are carbon copies of one another, some people cannot handle the same amount of pain as others. If we had compassion and actually helped others instead of using the "he's a man he should be able to handle it" mentality we wouldnt be having these issues.
So he shouldn't get a life sentence because he couldn't handle it? Or if you're saying that he should have been helped to avoid this situation then yes, I agree. But If you don't ask for help, you won't get any, people can't read your mind. I don't know what happened to him before, but I don't think people refused to help him, he probably never asked for help, so that was his decision.
Post subject: Re: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:51 pm
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Victim impact statements are given after the guilty verdict during sentencing. The judge decides on a sentence after the victim impact statements are given.
The kid probably plead guilty and was awaiting his sentencing.
+1 --- You have to go to sentencing whether found guilty or plead guilty. I'm pretty sure when you shoot someone in a school cafeteria, and you're that cocky bout it, you aren't going to plead innocent. Therefor no need for a trial. At least he's not gonna have to masturbate too often, I'm sure he'll be someone's gf real soon.
Post subject: Re: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:59 pm
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The world isn't a perfect place...society isn't (or should) be how you want it to be personally...hard times/stress falls on anyone/everyone...part of what makes us human is our ability to adapt and find ways to cope/deal with issues....
Killing to get your point across or to retaliate is one of many possible solutions....Society wont change because you killed 3 people or 3000....If he felt he was abused and mistreated by society then he only made it worse for himself....He failed to recognize this.....and for that I can't really empathize with his situation prior to this event....
Honestly if he feels he couldn't stand the people around him or felt he couldn't cope because nobody cared then it would be better to kill himself...
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Post subject: Re: Teen killer Smiles at victims' families in court
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:52 am
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BuDo wrote:
The world isn't a perfect place...society isn't (or should) be how you want it to be personally...hard times/stress falls on anyone/everyone...part of what makes us human is our ability to adapt and find ways to cope/deal with issues....
Killing to get your point across or to retaliate is one of many possible solutions....Society wont change because you killed 3 people or 3000....If he felt he was abused and mistreated by society then he only made it worse for himself....He failed to recognize this.....and for that I can't really empathize with his situation prior to this event....
Honestly if he feels he couldn't stand the people around him or felt he couldn't cope because nobody cared then it would be better to kill himself...
Society won't change when people are killed, and that's okay? You see the problem then get angry when this happens, does that make sense you know the solution but aren't willing to implement it.
It would have been better to kill himself, reread what you said and tell me that it was intelligent..
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