I got a feeling Madara could be using Obito's body... There's so many techniques in the naruto world that could easily make that possible.
This I agree with. Either way as long as some form of Obito came back into play would bring a smile to my face. His intentions seem true of Madara's. The part about giving Nagato the Rinnegan though confuses me. Why not keep them for himself and the how also comes into question.
I don't believe that he gave Nagato the Rinnegan. I mean, Nagato had it when he was a kid, doesn't make sense to me really.
I got a feeling Madara could be using Obito's body... There's so many techniques in the naruto world that could easily make that possible.
This I agree with. Either way as long as some form of Obito came back into play would bring a smile to my face. His intentions seem true of Madara's. The part about giving Nagato the Rinnegan though confuses me. Why not keep them for himself and the how also comes into question.
I don't believe that he gave Nagato the Rinnegan. I mean, Nagato had it when he was a kid, doesn't make sense to me really.
Oh and Konan
What i took out of his explanation was he sent those men into nagatos house, as if he knew the kid has the rinnegan
Maybe they will elaborate further. The way I see it, the Rinnegan has been described as being stronger than the Sharingan, so why would he not use it himself if he literally gave it to Nagato. Unlocked it, yea maybe.
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Spoiler!
とんでもね。最後のゲツガ。。。。 Unbelievable, the final Getsuga...
イチゴ 見せてやるよ 最後の月牙天衝だ Ichigo: I'll show you, the final Getsuga Tenshou. 藍前 なんだ その姿はーーー（藍前の姿の方が。。どうかと思ったけど） Aizen: What, that form is--- (well, I wonder what he thinks about his form)
Bleach DECIDE 22
水中？精神と時の部屋にて Underwater? Well, during that time in his mind--
白一護 まだ倒れんか 一護 Shirosaki: Haven't you fallen yet, Ichigo.
一護 倒れねえって言った筈だぜ 最後の月牙天衝ってのを聞きだすまではな Ichigo: Don't make me laugh, I'm not down yet. Not until I get what the final Getsuga Tenshou is.
一護（どうしてだ 本気で倒すつもりなら 最初の段階で俺を倒せたはずだ それくらいの力の差がオレ達にはあった Ichigo: (Why is it, that if he really wants to kill me, then he could've done so since the very beginning. He's got that much difference of power between us.
本気で教える気が無えなら 戦いをやめて身を隠せばいい そのくらいの事は出来だハズだ どうしてだ If he really doesn't want to teach me, then just stopping this fight and avoiding me would be fine. He could've done just that. So why
どうしてこいつの剣からは 寂しさばかりが流れ込んでくるんだ） So why is it that from his sword, flows such overwhelming loneliness)
剣を交え交わす二人 The two exchange blows.
白イチゴ イチゴに向かう 一護剣を離す Shirosaki faces Ichigo and separates him from his sword.
刺される一護 Ichigo is stabbed.
白一護 よく気がついた… 最後の月牙天衝とは私の刃を受け入れることでしか手にすることはできん… Shirosaki: So you've noticed... The final Getsuga Tenshou can't be learned from any blade but mine.
一護 痛みが 無え… Ichigo: It doesn't hurt...
白一護 当然だ この天鎖斬月は本来お前自身… 受け入れれば貫かれる事に痛みなどあろうはずもない… Shirosaki: Of course. This Tensa Zangetsu is originally yours... To be pierced by it will not cause any pain.
涙をこぼす白一護 Tears spill from Shirosaki
一護 なんで泣いてんだ Ichigo: Why the hell are you crying
白一護 一護 この戦いを始めた時に言った言葉を覚えているか お前の護りたいものが 私の護りたいものではないのだと Shirosaki: Ichigo, do you remember the words I said at the beginning of this fight? That what you want to protect is not what I want to protect.
一護 あア Ichigo: Yeah.
白一護 私の護りたかったものは お前自身だ 一護 Shirosaki: What I wanted to protect was... you, Ichigo.
一護 どういう意味だよ Ichigo: What do you mean.
白一 意味は 技の極意とともにこの刃から直に伝わるだろう 一護 この技を使えばお前はーーーー Shirosaki: I meant, that the main point of the technique is directly taught straight from this blade. Ichigo, to teach you this technique, you have to----
空中に立つ藍前 Aizen standing in mid-air.
一護 最後の月牙天衝ってのは 俺自身が月牙になることだ （黒髪ロン毛腰まで 顔は鼻からした包帯） Ichigo: The final Getsuga Tenshou is to turn myself into Zangetsu. (His black hair flows all the way down to his hips, and bandages wrap around his face from the nose down)
一護 この技を使えば 俺は死神の力の全てを失う 最後ってのはそういう意味だ Ichigo: This technique is, for me to part with all the power of a shinigami, that is what the final form meant.
藍前 （まさか 私は死神とは別次元へと進化を遂げた事で 二次元の存在が三次元の存在に干渉できぬように Aizen: (Impossible. I who, evolved beyond the dimensions of a shinigami, able to an existence of two or three dimensions apart from it, could not cross such a line
自ら意図的にレベルを下げて干渉させぬ限り 死神にも人間にも 私の霊圧を感じ取ることはできなくなった to intentionally lower your own level as far as your limits could go, not even as a shinigami or a human, to the point where my reiatsu could no longer even register it
まさか まさか 奴は 奴は 私よりも 更に上の次元に 立っているというのかーーーー） impossible. impossible. This bastard, this man, to stand and evolve beyond me is---)
藍前 馬鹿な！！ そんなはずがあるか！！ 人間ごと気がこの私を超えるなど！！ そんな事がーーー Aizen: FOOL!!! That such a thing could happen!!! THAT SUCH A MERE HUMAN COULD SURPASS ME!!! THAT SUCH A THING IS
EVEN---
一護 刀を掴み Ichigo grabs his sword
『無月』（むげつ） [MUGETSU] (Moonless sky)
次のページは開きで 空は暗闇 山 In the next page it opens with the sky filling with darkness
全てを無に帰す…！！ To bring everything back into darkness--!!!
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Spoiler!
An Unexpected Kinjutsu
Madara falls down into Konan's paper.
He holds his mask and tries to use his space-time [ninjutsu], but the exploding tags among Kona's paper prevent Madara from doing so.
Konan: "it seems the space-time ninjutsu was a failure. It seems you cannot [teleport] anything other than what is directly besides you." (if you want to teleport yourself, you have to materialise. it also goes slower than when you teleport something other than yourself)
Madara: "I have to stop teleporting. If i won't be able to slip through the explosion, things will be dangerous indeed." (There are exploding tags all around me... I can't carelessly teleport)
Konan: (Madara can slip through materials for a time period of approximately five minutes.)
The paper starts covering Madara
Konan: "In order to kill you, I prepared six hundred billion exploding tags... They will continue to explode for ten minutes." Inside the explosion..... (Konan has a small flashback)
Madara: "I was the one who induced Yahiko to start Akatsuki and I was also the one who gave Nagato the Rinnegan." Yahiko and Nagato moved on their own! They weren't just shōgi pieces! Even if they were like that, I will fight and die with this intention! That is why this will is tied together!! It will not be hindered!! When the explosion ends, Konan sits down. The paper decoration in her hair crumbles.
Konan: (The Paper Person of God Technique is coming apart. I used more chakra then I expected up till now, but with this...)
"Madara is certainly..."
Madara from behind her: "...Dead?"
In a special place, Yahiko and Nagato rest among paper flowers. The paper flowers decorating them crumble...
//looking into some other ones, supposedly, Nagato is of Uzumaki lineage (Red hair)
Konan is breathing faintly: "Why? You should be dead. No matter how often I tried it out, if I proceeded like this, I should have brought you down"
Madara: "Izanagi... The ability to change illusion into reality, in exchange for light. An Uchiha kinjutsu... The Uchiha and Senju... Only those who hold the power of both sides can use this doujutsu!"
Konan: "Both the Senju and Uchiha...? That is the Rikudou's power. You have such power..."
Madara: "You're my former comrade. As a token of friendship, I'll teach you a bit about my techniques and my body. Izanagi is essentially what you said. A technique applying all things created by the Rikudou Sennin. Originally, the Rikudou Sennin, the founder of both the Uchiha and Senju, possessed the blood and powers of both, who made all things. Using the power of Yin Release (Inton), originating from the spiritual energy governing imagination, he created form out of nothing. With the power of Yang Release (Youton), originating from the physical energy governing life, he blew life into those forms. The Bijuu are also one of those. He used a Yin-Yang Release (Onmyouton) to create every Bijuu from the Jyuubi's chakra. A technique that can embody imagination and life. That is Izanagi."
Konan: "What kind of person are you?"
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とんでもね。最後のゲツガ。。。。 Unbelievable, the final Getsuga...
イチゴ 見せてやるよ 最後の月牙天衝だ Ichigo: I'll show you, the final Getsuga Tenshou. 藍前 なんだ その姿はーーー（藍前の姿の方が。。どうかと思ったけど） Aizen: What, that form is--- (well, I wonder what he thinks about his form)
Bleach DECIDE 22
水中？精神と時の部屋にて Underwater? Well, during that time in his mind--
白一護 まだ倒れんか 一護 Shirosaki: Haven't you fallen yet, Ichigo.
一護 倒れねえって言った筈だぜ 最後の月牙天衝ってのを聞きだすまではな Ichigo: Don't make me laugh, I'm not down yet. Not until I get what the final Getsuga Tenshou is.
一護（どうしてだ 本気で倒すつもりなら 最初の段階で俺を倒せたはずだ それくらいの力の差がオレ達にはあった Ichigo: (Why is it, that if he really wants to kill me, then he could've done so since the very beginning. He's got that much difference of power between us.
本気で教える気が無えなら 戦いをやめて身を隠せばいい そのくらいの事は出来だハズだ どうしてだ If he really doesn't want to teach me, then just stopping this fight and avoiding me would be fine. He could've done just that. So why
どうしてこいつの剣からは 寂しさばかりが流れ込んでくるんだ） So why is it that from his sword, flows such overwhelming loneliness)
剣を交え交わす二人 The two exchange blows.
白イチゴ イチゴに向かう 一護剣を離す Shirosaki faces Ichigo and separates him from his sword.
刺される一護 Ichigo is stabbed.
白一護 よく気がついた… 最後の月牙天衝とは私の刃を受け入れることでしか手にすることはできん… Shirosaki: So you've noticed... The final Getsuga Tenshou can't be learned from any blade but mine.
一護 痛みが 無え… Ichigo: It doesn't hurt...
白一護 当然だ この天鎖斬月は本来お前自身… 受け入れれば貫かれる事に痛みなどあろうはずもない… Shirosaki: Of course. This Tensa Zangetsu is originally yours... To be pierced by it will not cause any pain.
涙をこぼす白一護 Tears spill from Shirosaki
一護 なんで泣いてんだ Ichigo: Why the hell are you crying
白一護 一護 この戦いを始めた時に言った言葉を覚えているか お前の護りたいものが 私の護りたいものではないのだと Shirosaki: Ichigo, do you remember the words I said at the beginning of this fight? That what you want to protect is not what I want to protect.
一護 あア Ichigo: Yeah.
白一護 私の護りたかったものは お前自身だ 一護 Shirosaki: What I wanted to protect was... you, Ichigo.
一護 どういう意味だよ Ichigo: What do you mean.
白一 意味は 技の極意とともにこの刃から直に伝わるだろう 一護 この技を使えばお前はーーーー Shirosaki: I meant, that the main point of the technique is directly taught straight from this blade. Ichigo, to teach you this technique, you have to----
空中に立つ藍前 Aizen standing in mid-air.
一護 最後の月牙天衝ってのは 俺自身が月牙になることだ （黒髪ロン毛腰まで 顔は鼻からした包帯） Ichigo: The final Getsuga Tenshou is to turn myself into Zangetsu. (His black hair flows all the way down to his hips, and bandages wrap around his face from the nose down)
一護 この技を使えば 俺は死神の力の全てを失う 最後ってのはそういう意味だ Ichigo: This technique is, for me to part with all the power of a shinigami, that is what the final form meant.
藍前 （まさか 私は死神とは別次元へと進化を遂げた事で 二次元の存在が三次元の存在に干渉できぬように Aizen: (Impossible. I who, evolved beyond the dimensions of a shinigami, able to an existence of two or three dimensions apart from it, could not cross such a line
自ら意図的にレベルを下げて干渉させぬ限り 死神にも人間にも 私の霊圧を感じ取ることはできなくなった to intentionally lower your own level as far as your limits could go, not even as a shinigami or a human, to the point where my reiatsu could no longer even register it
まさか まさか 奴は 奴は 私よりも 更に上の次元に 立っているというのかーーーー） impossible. impossible. This bastard, this man, to stand and evolve beyond me is---)
藍前 馬鹿な！！ そんなはずがあるか！！ 人間ごと気がこの私を超えるなど！！ そんな事がーーー Aizen: FOOL!!! That such a thing could happen!!! THAT SUCH A MERE HUMAN COULD SURPASS ME!!! THAT SUCH A THING IS
EVEN---
一護 刀を掴み Ichigo grabs his sword
『無月』（むげつ） [MUGETSU] (Moonless sky)
次のページは開きで 空は暗闇 山 In the next page it opens with the sky filling with darkness
全てを無に帰す…！！ To bring everything back into darkness--!!!
Naruto ~
Spoiler!
An Unexpected Kinjutsu
Madara falls down into Konan's paper.
He holds his mask and tries to use his space-time [ninjutsu], but the exploding fuda among Kona's paper prevent Madara from doing so.
Konan: "it seems the space-time ninjutsu was a failure. It seems you cannot [teleport] anything other than what is directly besides you." (if you want to teleport yourself, you have to materialise. it also goes slower than when you teleport something other than yourself)
Madara: "I have to stop teleporting. If i won't be able to slip through the explosion, things will be dangerous indeed." (There are exploding fuda all around me... I can't carelessly teleport)
Konan: (Madara can slip through materials for a time period of approximately five minutes.)
The paper starts covering Madara
Konan: "In order to kill you, I prepared six hundred billion exploding fuda... They will continue to explode for ten minutes." Inside the explosion..... (Konan has a small flashback)
Madara: "I was the one who induced Yahiko to start Akatsuki and I was also the one who gave Nagato the Rinnegan." Yahiko and Nagato moved on their own! They weren't just shōgi pieces! Even if they were like that, I will fight and die with this intention! That is why this will is tied together!! It will not be hindered!! When the explosion ends, Konan sits down. The paper decoration in her hair crumbles.
Konan: (The Paper Person of God Technique is coming apart. I used more chakra then I expected up till now, but with this...)
"Madara is certainly..."
Madara from behind her: "...Dead?"
In a special place, Yahiko and Nagato rest among paper flowers. The paper flowers decorating them crumble...
//looking into some other ones, supposedly, Nagato is of Uzumaki lineage (Red hair)
Oops. Well at least you saved me from catching up on Naruto. Now that's a mistake I would have regretted. xD
It's still getting interesting.
Quote:
Madara sits next to Nagato. “You are the third Rikudō… [Holding] a power so strong, it was even able to turn your red hair, proof of your Uzumaki clan lineage, into white…
Original Rikudo Sennin is Sage of the Six Paths. Creator of ninjutsu.
Oh and the people that think this pic is fake, it is not. It's showing Madara's sharinggan and Rinnegan as he explains he is the 2nd Rikudo.
Spoiler!
I have a theory as well. Naruto is going to become the 4th Rikudo. His seal he used on the Fox caused the Fox to question if it was the Rikudo. And Nagato being the 3rd and having Uzimaki Lineage leads me to believe that even though Uzimaki is only a distant Blood relative of the Senzu Clan, it's possible to bear the Rinnegan. And if you recall, Itachi gave Naruto some of his "Uchiha" Power. Madara clearly states Uchiha + Senju = Rikudo
Quote:
I am Uchiha Madara who obtained Senju Hashirama’s power. The second person to become Rikudō, that is my sole existence now
Omg and Bleach
Spoiler!
That is just Bad Ass. That Ichigo is by far better than Full Hollow Ichigo.
that form destroys anything we've seen so far in terms of coolness. Really looking forward to the next 2-4 chapters here.
and on Naruto you folks lost me, pretty familiar with it but all of the sudden all these eye names pop up and I am fairly clueless and now naruto could posses a "power up" that I really never heard of before. Guess I'll let the story progress for them to explain it all.
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Oops. Well at least you saved me from catching up on Naruto. Now that's a mistake I would have regretted. xD
It's still getting interesting.
Quote:
Madara sits next to Nagato. “You are the third Rikudō… [Holding] a power so strong, it was even able to turn your red hair, proof of your Uzumaki clan lineage, into white…
Original Rikudo Sennin is Sage of the Six Paths. Creator of ninjutsu.
Oh and the people that think this pic is fake, it is not. It's showing Madara's sharinggan and Rinnegan as he explains he is the 2nd Rikudo.
I have a theory as well. Naruto is going to become the 4th Rikudo. His seal he used on the Fox caused the Fox to question if it was the Rikudo. And Nagato being the 3rd and having Uzimaki Lineage leads me to believe that even though Uzimaki is only a distant Blood relative of the Senzu Clan, it's possible to bear the Rinnegan. And if you recall, Itachi gave Naruto some of his "Uchiha" Power. Madara clearly states Uchiha + Senju = Rikudo
Quote:
I am Uchiha Madara who obtained Senju Hashirama’s power. The second person to become Rikudō, that is my sole existence now
wait what?! .. everything in bold.. please explain
And YAY the Topic Title has finally been changed!!! Took me a few minutes looking around before I found it XD
Spoiler!
Ok, so from what I can tell, the sage of 6 paths was basically the great-grandaddy of the Uchiha and Senju clans. The mofo had both eyes and could turn illusions into reality. Kind of makes sense since Sharingan was all about illusions into reality and Rinnegan was about controlling life and death, so combine and and turn fake things into real and give em life. So the descendants fought and eventually came to Madara vs First Hokage. The First must've won the fight, but Madara had some secret thing going on in the back allowing him to steal the First's un-awakened Rinnegan. Then Nagato came along and managed to awaken his eye. So we find out that the Uzumaki line has some of the Rinnegan's blood in it. Odds are, Naruto will have the same power as Madara in the end or something similar since he has the bloodline for the Rinnegan, and Itachi gave him some of his Uchiha powers... wait and see I guess...
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Well i read naruto and i'm satisfied. Konan put up a good fight, forced Madara to burn out one of his eyes just to survive. He'll probably just replace the eye but the arm injuries are real so the girl did some work on him. Izangblahblah is just pure unfiltered BS but at this point what're you gonna do...
also not even touching on anything "plot" related because..well it's naruto
It's nice to be reminded Kubo can draw. If nothing else you can always look at bleach and say it's drawn impeccably well while you're throwing it in the incinerator.
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how lame i was expecting the usual 20/19 pages gah does this spell the end, or will it be another uryu ishida type of thing loses all his powers but then builds them back up after the battle is over i hope this isnt the end of bleach i know theres a movie but im asuming the movie is based on this arc as already speculated
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Well i read naruto and i'm satisfied. Konan put up a good fight, forced Madara to burn out one of his eyes just to survive. He'll probably just replace the eye but the arm injuries are real so the girl did some work on him. Izangblahblah is just pure unfiltered BS but at this point what're you gonna do...
also not even touching on anything "plot" related because..well it's naruto
It's nice to be reminded Kubo can draw. If nothing else you can always look at bleach and say it's drawn impeccably well while you're throwing it in the incinerator.
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Jizz in my pants,
that form destroys anything we've seen so far in terms of coolness. Really looking forward to the next 2-4 chapters here.
and on Naruto you folks lost me, pretty familiar with it but all of the sudden all these eye names pop up and I am fairly clueless and now naruto could posses a "power up" that I really never heard of before. Guess I'll let the story progress for them to explain it all.
I'll try to sum it up. The "Power-Up"
The first ever Rikudo(Translated "Sage of the Six Paths") possessed the Rinneggan naturally and is the Creator of all Ninjutsu. So he is the Original Rikudo. The Senju Clan(1st Hokage's clan) and the Uchiha Clan both came from his 2 sons(Split his power so to say). The Uzimaki Clan is a distant blood relative of the Senju Clan. When Naruto took complete control of the Nine-Tails, the Nine-Tails exclaims "Is this the Sage of the Six Paths" because Naruto's body was engulfed in energy and he had a necklace appear on him that is worn by the Sage of the Six Paths. Itachi gave Naruto power awhile back and said he hoped Naruto didn't have to use it, which I am thinking is some form of Uchiha power. Madara also explains that he is now a Rikudo because he possesses the 1st Hokage's power along with his Uchiha Power.
Shorter version is. Senju Clan + Uchiha Clan = Rikudo (Sage of the Six Paths) Naruto being a Distant blood relative of the Senju Clan and getting Power from a Uchiha is what leads my theory. Nagato was also from the Uzimaki Clan as revealed in the latest Chapter.
Oh yea my Bad, the Pic I said wasn't fake. Was a fake.. He doesn't possess the Rinneggan "YET" I assumed it was real cuz someone put "Confirmed" in the dam spoilers.. assholes.
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Well i read naruto and i'm satisfied. Konan put up a good fight, forced Madara to burn out one of his eyes just to survive. He'll probably just replace the eye but the arm injuries are real so the girl did some work on him. Izangblahblah is just pure unfiltered BS but at this point what're you gonna do...
Izanagi is explained to be how the First Sage Created all the Beasts from the Ten Tails. He also split his power into his 2 sons, prolly so it wouldn't be used anymore.
Only two things I need answers to.
1. Madara is 2nd Rikudo, but why doesn't he have the Rinneggan? 2. How did Nagato get the Rinneggan? They are Trademark of the Rikudo which comes from Uchiha and Senju. What Uchiha powers did he have? Senju I'm assuming is from his Uzimaki Lineage
1. Madara is 2nd Rikudo, but why doesn't he have the Rinneggan? 2. How did Nagato get the Rinneggan? They are Trademark of the Rikudo which comes from Uchiha and Senju. What Uchiha powers did he have? Senju I'm assuming is from his Uzimaki Lineage
Spoiler!
1. Because, he didn't have the Rinnengan yet, that's the reason he actually went to fight paper girl, now that he killed her he got Nagato's body, and is probably gonna steal it now
2. Perhaps the Uzumaki lineage is actually the senju clan, since i don't remember anyone actually talking about the senju sons, maybe they hid the name to Uzumaki
1. Madara is 2nd Rikudo, but why doesn't he have the Rinneggan? 2. How did Nagato get the Rinneggan? They are Trademark of the Rikudo which comes from Uchiha and Senju. What Uchiha powers did he have? Senju I'm assuming is from his Uzimaki Lineage
Spoiler!
1. Because, he didn't have the Rinnengan yet, that's the reason he actually went to fight paper girl, now that he killed her he got Nagato's body, and is probably gonna steal it now
2. Perhaps the Uzumaki lineage is actually the senju clan, since i don't remember anyone actually talking about the senju sons, maybe they hid the name to Uzumaki
edit: forgot spoilers lol
Spoiler!
1. He said he gave Nagato those Rinnegan and he also states he took 1st Hokages powers from their fight. If he had them, why did he give them away is what my question is asking. Sounds right in my head lol. Why would he need to wait for Nagato to be killed instead of just killing him while he was alive himself.
2. I know he is Relative to the Senju Clan, my question is how did he get them(requirements) and why is he called Rikudo. Rikudo is Uchiha + Senju. The Uchiha part is what seems to be missing or unexplained.
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