Sorry for dpost, missed this. I understand this, but why make this a recreational activity. It should be left to professionals who do it for the sake of the animals rather than to let loose on some anger or adrenaline.
I don't hunt to let loose anger or frustration. I do it to be in the outdoors, for the challenge, for the comradery at deer camp (friends), etc. Yes, hunting gives you an adrenaline rush, in deer hunting it is called 'buck fever'. This is something genetically coded within us. Humans have hunted since the beginning of our species. It's how we work. We are an animal like every other animal and we happen to be at the top of the food chain.
It would not be economically responsible to manage animal populations using specialist. There are millions of hunters. Hunting brings in BILLIONS in revenue. Hiring and spending money to manage the populations when you can do it and make money would be ridiculous. Especially considering how well hunting works as a management and conservation tool.
20gauge is no more accurate than a 12. A 12 guage is a larger shell and has more pellets per load. You can use this to your advantage for more knockdown power or larger spread. Only reason I use a 20gauage is because I have a really nice gun given to me by my grandfather. It also has a youth shoulder stock so it is extremely easy to maneuver, ideal for fast paced dove hunting.
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McLovin1t, I think EvGa's very first words on the matter explains it. "strong ignorance" you clearly just don't get it. You're living in a world where nothing should be harmed, and if it must be done it should be done by the government. You should be thankful there are people out there that hunt so you don't have to. Just like you should be thankful there are brave men and women that risk their lives every day for this country so you can complain about it.
I am vegan (haters, please hate, I don't care what you think) but to be honest I think hunting for food is better then going to the supermarket to buy meat. As you don't know where that meat comes from. I know I could never go hunting, as I could not kill an animal, but at least you/I know that animal has probably had the best possible life it could have, then any domesticated farm animal.
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I am vegan (haters, please hate, I don't care what you think) but to be honest I think hunting for food is better then going to the supermarket to buy meat. As you don't know where that meat comes from. I know I could never go hunting, as I could not kill an animal, but at least you/I know that animal has probably had the best possible life it could have, then any domesticated farm animal.
I am vegan (haters, please hate, I don't care what you think) but to be honest I think hunting for food is better then going to the supermarket to buy meat. As you don't know where that meat comes from. I know I could never go hunting, as I could not kill an animal, but at least you/I know that animal has probably had the best possible life it could have, then any domesticated farm animal.
I also hunt for rabbit
Do you eat the rabbit..?
I don't like killing just for the hell of it.. Just for a trophy
Damn things are ALL OVER THE PLACE at our land in west Texas.. Big 'jack rabbits' (I think they are actually hares). You have to watch the trails at night so you don't hit one with an ATV, they are big enough to probably cause a wreck.
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Damn things are ALL OVER THE PLACE at our land in west Texas.. Big 'jack rabbits' (I think they are actually hares). You have to watch the trails at night so you don't hit one with an ATV, they are big enough to probably cause a wreck.
I envy EvGa right now... I wish I was still back in Texas and still had my old ATVs... and all the great things that go along with Texas
Dude, if I ever have to leave I will be heart broken. Which reminds me, it's not just the act of harvesting an animal that makes hunting fulfilling. It's the entire experience. Scouting in the off season. Planting food plots. Setting up mineral licks, feeders, game cams, blinds, working on the bunk house, working on the land in general, doing all of the above with your best buds. Spending hours in the woods, at the lake, in the field, w/e. Sharing stories with friends, drinking a few beers, hanging out, etc. It's the culmination of all these things that makes hunting enjoyable. Too many people see hunting as simply walking into the woods with a gun, shooting the first animal you see, screaming 'yeeehaw!', and going home. It's nothing like that. I devote hundreds of hours to hunting every year and enjoy every second of it.
Inb4 'you can do all those things without killing an animal'.
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It's just one of those things you have to experience. Damn I miss Texas......... We do all those things here in OK... just doesn't have that feel like it used to.
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OMGOMG First decent post I've read of Ror's
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I go hunting every year, deer meat is fing amazing (as steak and jerky) ^_^, with a bow (not wood bows lululul) and a rifle , but yea like the vegan bunny said, u do it for the food not the trophies :O!
McLovin1t, I think EvGa's very first words on the matter explains it. "strong ignorance" you clearly just don't get it. You're living in a world where nothing should be harmed, and if it must be done it should be done by the government. You should be thankful there are people out there that hunt so you don't have to. Just like you should be thankful there are brave men and women that risk their lives every day for this country so you can complain about it.
Ok. So I'll let authority do whatever it wants and I won't complain. I'll keep my mouth shut if it doesn't tend to your own views. Sounds good. Now go to your tea party meeting or whatever.
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Dude, if I ever have to leave I will be heart broken. Which reminds me, it's not just the act of harvesting an animal that makes hunting fulfilling. It's the entire experience. Scouting in the off season. Planting food plots. Setting up mineral licks, feeders, game cams, blinds, working on the bunk house, working on the land in general, doing all of the above with your best buds. Spending hours in the woods, at the lake, in the field, w/e. Sharing stories with friends, drinking a few beers, hanging out, etc. It's the culmination of all these things that makes hunting enjoyable. Too many people see hunting as simply walking into the woods with a gun, shooting the first animal you see, screaming 'yeeehaw!', and going home. It's nothing like that. I devote hundreds of hours to hunting every year and enjoy every second of it.
Inb4 'you can do all those things without killing an animal'.
"You can do all those things without killing an animal." Try paintball? Or Golfing. And who brought up peta? Those people are out of their minds (usually). They have helped with some things however. Also at EvGa's first reply in this page. Your arguments are pretty flawed, considering you say you don't do it for adrenaline. People do, that was my argument. Don't argue from your perspective, but the concept being argued. Also, talking about being economically responsible, you are just speculating, you have no evidence to support that it wouldn't work, you just say there are many hunters. How do you know they all follow specific guidelines etc. Just because you follow the law, doesn't mean they all do. I'm not saying you're doing anything wrong, it's just the concept.
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I play paintball twice a month and played golf my 4 years in high school...
I didn't say paying specialists wouldn't work, I said it is not economically responsible, or even smart. Hunting brings in BILLIONS in revenue. That is fact. This is not my opinion.
I said adrenaline is part of it, but it is not the sole reason I hunt.
BRB - Making driving illegal because some people don't follow the law.
I play paintball twice a month and played golf my 4 years in high school...
I didn't say paying specialists wouldn't work, I said it is not economically responsible, or even smart. Hunting brings in BILLIONS in revenue. That is fact. This is not my opinion.
I said adrenaline is part of it, but it is not the sole reason I hunt.
BRB - Making driving illegal because some people don't follow the law.
Does driving cause unnecessary harm? Sometimes. Is driving almost necessary? Yes Does Hunting cause unnecessary harm? Always Is hunting necessary? Almost not at all. Flawed analogy?
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Does driving cause unnecessary harm? Sometimes. Is driving almost necessary? Yes Does Hunting cause unnecessary harm? Always Is hunting necessary? Almost not at all. Flawed analogy?
We already covered why it is necessary. Try again. Please don't be so dense and get your emotions off your sleeve.
No. You said the harm could prevent overpopulation. You didn't say in every case of hunting, it's stopping harm, or it's necessary. Most hunters that I know, such as friends etc. don't hunt in order to prevent harm etc. but for recreation.
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No. You said the harm could prevent overpopulation. You didn't say in every case of hunting, it's stopping harm, or it's necessary. Most hunters that I know, such as friends etc. don't hunt in order to prevent harm etc. but for recreation.
why the hell does this turn into a argument, squirt just asked if you ever went hunting, a casual off topic post is fine but ruining a decent thread to stupid opinionated bickering
No. You said the harm could prevent overpopulation. You didn't say in every case of hunting, it's stopping harm, or it's necessary. Most hunters that I know, such as friends etc. don't hunt in order to prevent harm etc. but for recreation.
why the hell does this turn into a argument, squirt just asked if you ever went hunting, a casual off topic post is fine but ruining a decent thread to stupid opinionated bickering
My threads always turns into this =D
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Well what's wrong with a healthy argument lol? We aren't flaming? It's not a thread that goes blablabla you're stupid bla bla flame. It's a good argument I think?
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You can kill an animal without doing all those things.
Compelling argument!
Not really.
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No. You said the harm could prevent overpopulation. You didn't say in every case of hunting, it's stopping harm, or it's necessary. Most hunters that I know, such as friends etc. don't hunt in order to prevent harm etc. but for recreation.
Assuming they follow the law, they are helping, regardless if they realize it or not.
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, but yea like the vegan bunny said, u do it for the food not the trophies :O!
