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poehalcho · **Posted:** Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:52 am

Isis wrote:

Can I just say I've been vegan for the last 3 year, vegetarian since I was 13...

A pescetarians is someone that only eats fish
A vegetarian is someone that doesn't eat meat, including gelatine
A vegan is someone that doesn't eat, meat, eggs and dairy

As well as excluding foods from our diet, we also don't wear any dead animals, fur, leather and suede. Vegans also don't wear, wool silk and angora.

Not sure who said vegans don't eat bread, I eat bread, there is no dairy or eggs in bread. I also eat, cake chocolate and even ice cream.

Oh yeah I guess bread was made with water.
I thought it had eggs to stick everything together :/

but icecream? That's pretty much frozen milk... unless you mean the frozen syrup stuff...

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

You can use soy milk to make ice cream....

TheDrop · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 7150 **Location:** uefa2012

cake uses eggs, chocolate and ice cream definitely use milk (or soy milk too apparently)
Personally I dont see the point of being a vegan, its not like its exactly natural

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

Its almost impossible to avoid using/benefiting from animal byproducts in one form or another so it must be hard being vegan....We live in a world of so much inter-dependency between ourselves and the environment where we both directly and indirectly and also unwittingly support the use of animal byproducts....I suppose vegans try their best knowing that they can't prevent their every actions from betraying their beliefs......

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ZaKnighT · **Joined:** Sep 2009 **Posts:** 1730 **Location:** home

Ganja wrote:

I think you've all forgotten who this guys is.

Spoiler!

Just a beta version of Vegeta.

Lol @ beta version of Vegeta.... I'm offended serious

Isis · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 4171 **Location:**

TheDrop wrote:

cake uses eggs, chocolate and ice cream definitely use milk (or soy milk too apparently)
Personally I dont see the point of being a vegan, its not like its exactly natural

instead of using eggs in cakes, I use oil... Olive oil, rapeseed oil or just sunflower oil. There other types of milk other then soya milk, but I prefer soya milk. I can make a very tasty vegan chocolate cake!!

that's your opinion though, but I don't find it natural to eat animal by-products. Or to eat meat...

XMoshe · **Posted:** Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:24 am

Isis wrote:

TheDrop wrote:

cake uses eggs, chocolate and ice cream definitely use milk (or soy milk too apparently)
Personally I dont see the point of being a vegan, its not like its exactly natural

instead of using eggs in cakes, I use oil... Olive oil, rapeseed oil or just sunflower oil. There other types of milk other then soya milk, but I prefer soya milk. I can make a very tasty vegan chocolate cake!!

that's your opinion though, but I don't find it natural to eat animal by-products. Or to eat meat...

We've been eating animal (by-product) for centuries? o.O How is it not natural

Bartic · **Posted:** Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:44 am

I really think eating animals and their by-products is natural. It can't be more natural than that.

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

I think it's natural too but there's not much point in arguing.

Isis wrote:

I can make a very tasty vegan chocolate cake!!

Do send me some of that though.

I Am Vegeta · **Posted:** Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:59 pm

Bartic wrote:

I really think eating animals and their by-products is natural. It can't be more natural than that.

obviously its natural, im on top of the food chain, im allowed to eat whatever I want, whenever i want, wherever i want and you better hope you wont end up in my plate.

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

I Am Vegeta wrote:

Bartic wrote:

I really think eating animals and their by-products is natural. It can't be more natural than that.

obviously its natural, im on top of the food chain, im allowed to eat whatever I want, whenever i want, wherever i want and you better hope you wont end up in my plate.

I didn't know cannibalism among humans was allowed.

XMoshe · **Posted:** Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:02 am

I Am Vegeta wrote:

Bartic wrote:

I really think eating animals and their by-products is natural. It can't be more natural than that.

obviously its natural, im on top of the food chain, im allowed to eat whatever I want, whenever i want, wherever i want and you better hope you wont end up in my plate.

I'd love to see you try and eat a whale. You have to hunt it first too ofcourse, because thats what real men do

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

Vegans and vegetarians who think meat eating isn't natural are deluding themselves due to the fact that our modern standard of living and feeding provide us with lots of options.....

Our ancestors didn't always have fruits and vegetables at their disposal...They expand and switch their diets in accordance with whats available...If that's not natural then I don't know what natural is....

The need to survive isn't unnatural...and any action in response to that need isn't unnatural either...This includes eating meat..

I Am Vegeta · **Posted:** Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:03 am

XMoshe wrote:

I Am Vegeta wrote:

Bartic wrote:

I really think eating animals and their by-products is natural. It can't be more natural than that.

obviously its natural, im on top of the food chain, im allowed to eat whatever I want, whenever i want, wherever i want and you better hope you wont end up in my plate.

I'd love to see you try and eat a whale. You have to hunt it first too ofcourse, because thats what real men do

ez pz bb

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

I Am Vegeta wrote:

im allowed to eat whatever I want, whenever i want, wherever i want

Not in My House! lulz

Isis · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 4171 **Location:**

BuDo wrote:

Vegans and vegetarians who think meat eating isn't natural are deluding themselves due to the fact that our modern standard of living and feeding provide us with lots of options.....

Our ancestors didn't always have fruits and vegetables at their disposal...They expand and switch their diets in accordance with whats available...If that's not natural then I don't know what natural is....

The need to survive isn't unnatural...and any action in response to that need isn't unnatural either...This includes eating meat..

Sorry I didn't actually mean meat was unnatural, its probably the most natural thing, its the by-products I find unnatural. We're the only mammal that'll drink milk into adult hood, and its not even our own species milk either. Eggs are basically unfertilised eggs, that are laid, its like the hens period in a way...

well anyway, I don't want to get into an argument, with who's wrong and who's right. It's my choice to be vegan, and live the way I do. Pretty much its your choice to live the way you do!!

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

Even though it may look like it I don't wanna argue/debate either...This matter about whats natural can seem very subjective....a debate wont get anywhere....Everyone's viewpoint of what's natural can be and is at most times different...

Mayumi · **Posted:** Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:01 pm

Vegeta is still a used tampon, fact!

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

Mayumi wrote:

Vegeta is still a used tampon, fact!

LOL indeed bud...indeed...

I Am Vegeta · **Posted:** Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:01 am

Isis wrote:

BuDo wrote:

Vegans and vegetarians who think meat eating isn't natural are deluding themselves due to the fact that our modern standard of living and feeding provide us with lots of options.....

Our ancestors didn't always have fruits and vegetables at their disposal...They expand and switch their diets in accordance with whats available...If that's not natural then I don't know what natural is....

The need to survive isn't unnatural...and any action in response to that need isn't unnatural either...This includes eating meat..

Sorry I didn't actually mean meat was unnatural, its probably the most natural thing, its the by-products I find unnatural. We're the only mammal that'll drink milk into adult hood, and its not even our own species milk either. Eggs are basically unfertilised eggs, that are laid, its like the hens period in a way...

well anyway, I don't want to get into an argument, with who's wrong and who's right. It's my choice to be vegan, and live the way I do. Pretty much its your choice to live the way you do!!

eggs and milk make me swole, therefore milk and eggs are good for me.

ZaKnighT · **Joined:** Sep 2009 **Posts:** 1730 **Location:** home

Isis wrote:

BuDo wrote:

Vegans and vegetarians who think meat eating isn't natural are deluding themselves due to the fact that our modern standard of living and feeding provide us with lots of options.....

Our ancestors didn't always have fruits and vegetables at their disposal...They expand and switch their diets in accordance with whats available...If that's not natural then I don't know what natural is....

The need to survive isn't unnatural...and any action in response to that need isn't unnatural either...This includes eating meat..

Sorry I didn't actually mean meat was unnatural, its probably the most natural thing, its the by-products I find unnatural. We're the only mammal that'll drink milk into adult hood, and its not even our own species milk either. Eggs are basically unfertilised eggs, that are laid, its like the hens period in a way...

well anyway, I don't want to get into an argument, with who's wrong and who's right. It's my choice to be vegan, and live the way I do. Pretty much its your choice to live the way you do!!

What a load of bullshit lol. You should see my cat who loves milk and a few other mammals drink milk also lol. The funny thing is I bet you drive a car, and If you do I think you're a hypocrite since you use dead animals as your fuel.

I Am Vegeta · **Posted:** Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:59 am

ZaKnighT wrote:

Isis wrote:

BuDo wrote:

Vegans and vegetarians who think meat eating isn't natural are deluding themselves due to the fact that our modern standard of living and feeding provide us with lots of options.....

Our ancestors didn't always have fruits and vegetables at their disposal...They expand and switch their diets in accordance with whats available...If that's not natural then I don't know what natural is....

The need to survive isn't unnatural...and any action in response to that need isn't unnatural either...This includes eating meat..

Sorry I didn't actually mean meat was unnatural, its probably the most natural thing, its the by-products I find unnatural. We're the only mammal that'll drink milk into adult hood, and its not even our own species milk either. Eggs are basically unfertilised eggs, that are laid, its like the hens period in a way...

well anyway, I don't want to get into an argument, with who's wrong and who's right. It's my choice to be vegan, and live the way I do. Pretty much its your choice to live the way you do!!

What a load of bullshit lol. You should see my cat who loves milk and a few other mammals drink milk also lol. The funny thing is I bet you drive a car, and If you do I think you're a hypocrite since you use dead animals as your fuel.

BOOOOM

XMoshe · **Posted:** Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:23 am

ZaKnighT wrote:

Isis wrote:

BuDo wrote:

Vegans and vegetarians who think meat eating isn't natural are deluding themselves due to the fact that our modern standard of living and feeding provide us with lots of options.....

Our ancestors didn't always have fruits and vegetables at their disposal...They expand and switch their diets in accordance with whats available...If that's not natural then I don't know what natural is....

The need to survive isn't unnatural...and any action in response to that need isn't unnatural either...This includes eating meat..

Sorry I didn't actually mean meat was unnatural, its probably the most natural thing, its the by-products I find unnatural. We're the only mammal that'll drink milk into adult hood, and its not even our own species milk either. Eggs are basically unfertilised eggs, that are laid, its like the hens period in a way...

well anyway, I don't want to get into an argument, with who's wrong and who's right. It's my choice to be vegan, and live the way I do. Pretty much its your choice to live the way you do!!

What a load of bullshit lol. You should see my cat who loves milk and a few other mammals drink milk also lol. The funny thing is I bet you drive a car, and If you do I think you're a hypocrite since you use dead animals as your fuel.

Cats shouldn't drink milk at older age, not the kind of milk we usually drink. Also the dead animals she uses for her car weren't killed so they could be turned into fuel.

Isis · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 4171 **Location:**

For starters cats shouldn't be drinking cows milk, and kittens drink a special formular that is designed for kittens. I also don't drive, so please use something else to argue with...

I Am Vegeta · **Posted:** Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:31 pm

why do you care about animals?

i really don't get those kind of people seriously, if someone offered me cat meat or dog meat i would taste it.

you just care about them cause you find them cute, wich is the most stupid reason on earth.

why you no care about me cause im cute?

u selfish devil

Isis · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 4171 **Location:**

I don't even know what you look like...

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

Meh! @Vegeta
Animals they are our friends! They're so adorable! And most of them, if you treat them right, will love you back.

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

*BlackFox wrote:

Meh! @Vegeta
Animals they are our friends! They're so adorable! And most of them, if you treat them right, will love you back.

Lol probably not most of them. Most don't even want to be near humans.

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

Sanktum wrote:

Lol probably not most of them. Most don't even want to be near humans.

No wonder! lulz

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