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 Post subject: Re: Police Officer Shoots Dog
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:10 am 
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I'm not a fan of the cops as much as the next guy, but if I was a cop, mid arrest, and a dog just jumped out of a car window and was coming towards me in a threatening way, I'm reaching for my gun.

Wrong answer. Cowards choose the lethal method over the non-lethal. It's just as easy to reach for a taser or pepper spray than it is to reach for your firearm.


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I don't understand why you people think the officer will get fired over this, he won't even get suspended. Anyone who watches the video can see that he killed the dog in self defense. Cops kill unarmed people and don't always get suspended because self defense.

@BuDo you can look up any police precinct and find some "shady shit" in their history.


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I believe a typical on the job shooting requires time off for investigation and such. However it is paid, so the point is mostly moot, also it might only apply to shootings in regards to other people.

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The dog was coming to his owner. The police clearly saw that!
Seriously, If it was being aggressive... It would have "charged straight at the police"

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I'm not sure what this reporter means, she says an officer has a right to shoot, but Shedrick doesnt? But shedrick is an officer, and hes the one getting attacked.

Just made me remember this video. That is an aggressive dog. The one in the topic video only attacked after that cop went up to it. It jumped towards him when he went up to it, he shot, then he shot 3 extra unnecessary times.

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The dog was coming to his owner. The police clearly saw that!
Seriously, If it was being aggressive... It would have "charged straight at the police"

Quit trolling, sir. He came to the owner, but also to defend him by approaching to the men in uniform.

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Just made me remember this video. That is an aggressive dog. The one in the topic video only attacked after that cop went up to it. It jumped towards him when he went up to it, he shot, then he shot 3 extra unnecessary times.

Dont get why he (OP) didn't just use a taser then ~,~''
Would the dog have been able to survive the first bullet anyways? (As in if they took him to the vet right after getting shot)

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I'm not sure what this reporter means, she says an officer has a right to shoot, but Shedrick doesnt? But shedrick is an officer, and hes the one getting attacked.


I think she meant he doesn't shoot, instead he used the taser.

Either way the dog died. They just prolonged the process.


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.curve wrote:
I'm not a fan of the cops as much as the next guy, but if I was a cop, mid arrest, and a dog just jumped out of a car window and was coming towards me in a threatening way, I'm reaching for my gun.

Wrong answer. Cowards choose the lethal method over the non-lethal. It's just as easy to reach for a taser or pepper spray than it is to reach for your firearm.


Consider this: you're also in a part of town where as a cop, you're already hated with a passion. Factor that into an already high tension situation, and then a dog comes charging at you? Shoot first.

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I'm not a fan of the cops as much as the next guy, but if I was a cop, mid arrest, and a dog just jumped out of a car window and was coming towards me in a threatening way, I'm reaching for my gun.

Wrong answer. Cowards choose the lethal method over the non-lethal. It's just as easy to reach for a taser or pepper spray than it is to reach for your firearm.


Consider this: you're also in a part of town where as a cop, you're already hated with a passion. Factor that into an already high tension situation, and then a dog comes charging at you? Shoot first.

Really...? I am already hated with a passion where I live. The police beat my people left and right without reason, even elders. I still wouldn't shoot first.


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I'm not a fan of the cops as much as the next guy, but if I was a cop, mid arrest, and a dog just jumped out of a car window and was coming towards me in a threatening way, I'm reaching for my gun.

Wrong answer. Cowards choose the lethal method over the non-lethal. It's just as easy to reach for a taser or pepper spray than it is to reach for your firearm.


Consider this: you're also in a part of town where as a cop, you're already hated with a passion. Factor that into an already high tension situation, and then a dog comes charging at you? Shoot first.

But, it's a dog you knew was there already, a dog people were shouting to warn you about, a dog whose owner is in your custody and most likely doesn't want it to attack you either, a dog who came up to you and then stopped then jumped at you only after you went up to it, having plenty of time to assess the situation, a dog whose reason for even doing so is also known to you.

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Agree with everything said


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I would most certainly punch you in the face if you were filming me in the same annoying way this guy was doing it. And I would shoot your dog too.


I rarely call people out in the forums but just because your avatar is Goku doesn't make you "the shit". Get off the internet and the fuck out of SRF, cunt.

Let's face it, you'd never punch anyone in the face IRL because you're a complete pussy outside of SRF. The harder you deny it the bigger your hole gets. Just getting sick of your shit around here.

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Relax, guys. :/
We are kinda taking sides to argue over something that might happen everyday... doesn't solve anything in that way.

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I would most certainly punch you in the face if you were filming me in the same annoying way this guy was doing it. And I would shoot your dog too.


I rarely call people out in the forums but just because your avatar is Goku doesn't make you "the shit". Get off the internet and the fuck out of SRF, cunt.

Let's face it, you'd never punch anyone in the face IRL because you're a complete pussy outside of SRF. The harder you deny it the bigger your hole gets. Just getting sick of your shit around here.


dude what

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This Just proves the cops are trigger happy.

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This Just proves the cops are trigger happy.

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This single case doesn't prove anything about all the cops. But the cop of the story was kinda trigger happy still.

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But, it's a dog you knew was there already, a dog people were shouting to warn you about, a dog whose owner is in your custody and most likely doesn't want it to attack you either, a dog who came up to you and then stopped then jumped at you only after you went up to it, having plenty of time to assess the situation, a dog whose reason for even doing so is also known to you.


But it's a dog that was put into a secure location by it's owner, who then managed to escape that location and came towards you while you were arresting/being violent with it's owner.

Any logical person would conclude that, "Oh shit, this dog is trying to protect it's owner and I'm the one who is seemingly putting him in danger, I should react to protect myself first and foremost."

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Any logical person would conclude that, "Oh shit, this dog is trying to protect it's owner and I'm the one who is seemingly putting him in danger, I should react to protect myself first and foremost."


You're right, any logical person would react to protect himself first and foremost by releasing the handcuffed guy (which is not even being agressive, so there is no risk) and telling him to deal with his dog.

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Any logical person would conclude that, "Oh shit, this dog is trying to protect it's owner and I'm the one who is seemingly putting him in danger, I should react to protect myself first and foremost."


You're right, any logical person would react to protect himself first and foremost by releasing the handcuffed guy (which is not even being agressive, so there is no risk) and telling him to deal with his dog.


Of course, there was plenty of time to uncuff the guy and hope that in that time the dog didn't attack?

They already told the guy to restrain his dog in the vehicle. He did. The dog escaped in an attempt to defend it's owner. The officer, realizing that this dog was in protective mode, reacted to an angry animal coming at him with the possible intent to harm him.

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10 seconds

That's how long the officer had to react to the dog jumping out of the car. The only thing that would be going through my head is not to let the dog harm myself or other, not oh hey guys maybe you should let that guy go so he can clam his dog down.


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He could have reached for his taser instead of gun in that 10 seconds though

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I rarely call people out in the forums but just because your avatar is Goku doesn't make you "the shit". Get off the internet and the fuck out of SRF, cunt.

Let's face it, you'd never punch anyone in the face IRL because you're a complete pussy outside of SRF. The harder you deny it the bigger your hole gets. Just getting sick of your shit around here.


dude what


the dude has some serious rage issues. What a ****.

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just my 2 cents...

I think the cop was right to arrest the guy, that is completely legal and nothing wrong with that. The man was warned and did not remove himself from a perimeter that he shouldnt have entered.

the dog shooting however was unjustifiable.
lets look at the situation. the dog notices his owner is in distress so the dog tries to protect his owner, we know dogs instinctively have this behavior. The dog however, does not understand that the cop is in a higher power position than the citizen because its a dog.
So the cop should have realised the dog was trying to protect his owner and was not able to calculate the risk of coming to his aid, dogs dont know cops have guns and shoot at any threat, or what "shooting" is... the dog is essentially dumb in the scenario and has no idea what the consequence is... in terms of nature, a dog has never experienced anything that can kill it quicker than a blink of his eye.

so the dog just didnt know any better but continues to bark and "sike" the guy out by lunging slightly, this is a bad move for the dog and the cop places it safe and holds his stance.... This is when we see two other officers just standing there not doing much...

if the dog lunges, for that breed he could do some serious damage to the cop yes that is for sure... but there is 3 HUMANS with HUMAN BRAINS! how difficult is it to outsmart a dog whilst he is out numbered 3-1?! a dog is powerful but other things could have happened without killing the dog.

pepper spraying the dog would allow officers to get in close and keep the dog on the floor, grabbing the dogs collar would enable the other two to flip the dog onto the floor, brute forcing through the dog in a football tackle would also change the situation.

these police officers in america are far too trigger happy. i know they have to deal with tense situations which often involve guns but a dog will not shoot at 3 cops, i promise you... so use your human brain and just intelligently diffuse the situation?

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just my 2 cents...

I think the cop was right to arrest the guy, that is completely legal and nothing wrong with that. The man was warned and did not remove himself from a perimeter that he shouldnt have entered.

the dog shooting however was unjustifiable.
lets look at the situation. the dog notices his owner is in distress so the dog tries to protect his owner, we know dogs instinctively have this behavior. The dog however, does not understand that the cop is in a higher power position than the citizen because its a dog.
So the cop should have realised the dog was trying to protect his owner and was not able to calculate the risk of coming to his aid, dogs dont know cops have guns and shoot at any threat, or what "shooting" is... the dog is essentially dumb in the scenario and has no idea what the consequence is... in terms of nature, a dog has never experienced anything that can kill it quicker than a blink of his eye.

so the dog just didnt know any better but continues to bark and "sike" the guy out by lunging slightly, this is a bad move for the dog and the cop places it safe and holds his stance.... This is when we see two other officers just standing there not doing much...

if the dog lunges, for that breed he could do some serious damage to the cop yes that is for sure... but there is 3 HUMANS with HUMAN BRAINS! how difficult is it to outsmart a dog whilst he is out numbered 3-1?! a dog is powerful but other things could have happened without killing the dog.

pepper spraying the dog would allow officers to get in close and keep the dog on the floor, grabbing the dogs collar would enable the other two to flip the dog onto the floor, brute forcing through the dog in a football tackle would also change the situation.

these police officers in america are far too trigger happy. i know they have to deal with tense situations which often involve guns but a dog will not shoot at 3 cops, i promise you... so use your human brain and just intelligently diffuse the situation?


TL;DR Sum it up... This whole situation was completely avoidable by both sides, but both sides were stupid. The dog was completely at fault and deserved what it got.

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So apparently this police force has a bunch of dirty bitch ass power hungry cops which includes the asswhipe who shot the dog....



How is shooting a dog that looks aggressive power hungry? A dog's instinct is to defend it's owner. If a powerful dog like that gets a hold of the officer's wrist or hand they have the bite force to seriously mangle the tendons, ligaments, nerves and blood vessels. That kind of injury can be career ending.

Where does your hatred for LEOs come from? Get too many speeding tickets?


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just my 2 cents...

I think the cop was right to arrest the guy, that is completely legal and nothing wrong with that. The man was warned and did not remove himself from a perimeter that he shouldnt have entered.

the dog shooting however was unjustifiable.
lets look at the situation. the dog notices his owner is in distress so the dog tries to protect his owner, we know dogs instinctively have this behavior. The dog however, does not understand that the cop is in a higher power position than the citizen because its a dog.
So the cop should have realised the dog was trying to protect his owner and was not able to calculate the risk of coming to his aid, dogs dont know cops have guns and shoot at any threat, or what "shooting" is... the dog is essentially dumb in the scenario and has no idea what the consequence is... in terms of nature, a dog has never experienced anything that can kill it quicker than a blink of his eye.

so the dog just didnt know any better but continues to bark and "sike" the guy out by lunging slightly, this is a bad move for the dog and the cop places it safe and holds his stance.... This is when we see two other officers just standing there not doing much...

if the dog lunges, for that breed he could do some serious damage to the cop yes that is for sure... but there is 3 HUMANS with HUMAN BRAINS! how difficult is it to outsmart a dog whilst he is out numbered 3-1?! a dog is powerful but other things could have happened without killing the dog.

pepper spraying the dog would allow officers to get in close and keep the dog on the floor, grabbing the dogs collar would enable the other two to flip the dog onto the floor, brute forcing through the dog in a football tackle would also change the situation.

these police officers in america are far too trigger happy. i know they have to deal with tense situations which often involve guns but a dog will not shoot at 3 cops, i promise you... so use your human brain and just intelligently diffuse the situation?


This is the most nonsensical thing I've read in a long while.

The dog was acting on the instinct of protecting it's owner. The cop was acting on the instinct of protecting his life/body.

Just because the dog can't stop and go "Hm, they're police maybe I should sit here quietly and let them do their thing" doesn't mean we should let it be aggressive just because we're sympathetic. Human life comes first and foremost, as proven here.

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so you're saying the office acted on instinct instead of reason? While defending the officer

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So apparently this police force has a bunch of dirty bitch ass power hungry cops which includes the asswhipe who shot the dog....



How is shooting a dog that looks aggressive power hungry? A dog's instinct is to defend it's owner. If a powerful dog like that gets a hold of the officer's wrist or hand they have the bite force to seriously mangle the tendons, ligaments, nerves and blood vessels. That kind of injury can be career ending.

Where does your hatred for LEOs come from? Get too many speeding tickets?


My hatred comes from seeing cops (or anyone)abuse their power....simple as that...Nice to see you quote only a piece of my post and conveniently left out the link to an article that shows a history police brutality (caught on tape brutality I might add) that comes with these cops.....

As for your dog-bite-wrists-tendons-ligaments speal.... all I have to say to that is a mailman deals with them everyday and he (by himself I might add) doesn't have a gun... They could have use another method to contain the situation....any of the methods we've seen posted here...

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This whole situation was completely avoidable by both sides, but both sides were stupid. The dog was completely at fault and deserved what it got.


Avoidable by both sides: True

Both sides were being stupid: Also true

Dog was completely at fault and deserve what it got: A retarded insight (or trolling) seeing as how animals are instinctual by nature....

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