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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:42 am 
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personally right now im 13 yr's old i do almost everything dont got paid
i dont even ask to get paid.if i misbehave of any kind i get hit with a coat hanger wire belt or watever. and dont even think of that as abuse
because thats how everyone in my country was raised(or maybe all of africa xD)
so i stay out of trouble in my parents presence because i know the consequenses.
+ wtf is grounding gonnna do?


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of cource not, the only discipline i ever get it through my coaches, never at home :)
p.s u know who i am pschy and i ask u not to reveal at my own discreet.


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To be honest, your parents shouldn't have kids if they had you to do chores for what seems like hours every day.

Im sure your parents would justify themselves by calling it "character building" or some bullshit, but at the end of the day, all it does is cause suffering.

I hope you dont bring up your kids in the same way. Be selfless with you children.

You have to earn respect, it works both ways. If my parents let me down and make me unhappy, i have no respect for them. If they dont respect me and my wishes, then obviously i cannot respect them. Having children is a lif of compromises to make both sides of the family happy.

I also hate children who cry and whine in stores, but the way to stop that is give them attention and explain EVERYTHING, not just smack them and tell them to shut up. I regularly see these kinds of children in supermarkets, and all i do is talk to them and give them attention for 2-5 minutes, and oh, look at that, the kid is happy again.

Im not goin to carry on this rant, as it wont have any effect on you. I can almost guaruntee you will treat your children the same way as you have been treated, as upbringing moulds the future life.

But all i have to say is parenting isnt just extremes of ultimate control and punishment, and of one sided respect and affection. Parenting needs to involve meeting the needs of both parties concerned and keeping everyone happy. I was brought up terribly by my parents, but i see how my girlfriend's parent brought her up and i see a major difference. She is a million times happier than me most of the time, and her parents are the most amazing people, because they bring up their children correctly.

I beg you, dont ever spank or smack your children. It will truly haunt them for the rest of my life.

I wont go into my own experience into too much detail, but i still remember the panic and despair i felt, the true horror, of just my dad smacking me.

This is serious, DONT **** YOUR KIDS UP.

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CobbZ wrote:
To be honest, your parents shouldn't have kids if they had you to do chores for what seems like hours every day.

Im sure your parents would justify themselves by calling it "character building" or some bullshit, but at the end of the day, all it does is cause suffering.

I hope you dont bring up your kids in the same way. Be selfless with you children.


I'm going to have to disagree a little. I argue with my parents, quite a bit, over this and that. But in the end, I love them, and they don't know how much I appreciate them, and everything that they do for me. I've never told them, but I do. I really do.
The kids are the one that should be selfless. Parents spend God only knows how much money to raise a child - food, board, clothes... everything, and if you're lucky, they'll even pay your way through college. A little mowing the lawn and washing the dishes is the LEAST that a child can do to repay everything that their parents have done for them.

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Im sure your parents would justify themselves by calling it "character building" or some bullshit, but at the end of the day, all it does is cause suffering.


All work, or most work, is suffering. I don't think I know anybody that wouldn't rather be lying on the Bahamas drinking Pina Coladas, then working. If your kids suffer mowing the lawn - fine. No one ever said that that was fun. I don't think it's fun. But I still do it. I don't think vacuming the goddamn house is fun. That's my least favorite chore to do. But I do it. And I don't complain. They feed me, they clothes me, they give me room and board, and I live in a beautiful city, and go to one of the best schools in the nation.
I'm not complaining over a few chores, and God help any child that is.

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You edited your post, so I'll edit mine.

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I also hate children who cry and whine in stores, but the way to stop that is give them attention and explain EVERYTHING, not just smack them and tell them to shut up. I regularly see these kinds of children in supermarkets, and all i do is talk to them and give them attention for 2-5 minutes, and oh, look at that, the kid is happy again.


Kids that whine and cry in stores are little brats that deserve to be smacked, and told to STFU. You give them attention, they'll think that it's okay to whine and cry about how they want that dress. They won't learn that there are limits. You spoil your kids, and when they grow up and enter the real world, it'll be like they were dropped in ice cold water, doused in it. The real world isn't a nice place where your parents pamper you and coddle you and buy everything for you. Those kinds of kids will only suffer in the future.
And yes, working does build character. If you think that kids who are pampered and have a silver spoon in their mouth, have any character, then, I'm sorry, but you're sadly mistaken. :( Kids that aren't pampered are ready to face the real world, are much more prepared than kids that are.


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I can't stand strict parents, its wrong. Look what their kids end up being.
Parents that treat their kids like are just so wrong, look what some of those kids end up to be. No offense psych but those problems are partly because of the way you were raised.

I have a friend whos parents are strict as a motherfuucker and that kid is a pussy, a nothing. Another friend whos parents let him do everything, and didnt give a shit, and hes a full stop drug addict.

It's all about how your parents raised you


It's kinda demoralizing how they ground me for one B, it gives you that "YOU FAIL" feeling... I hate being asian sometimes >.<


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And now i have to reply to you. I never said BUYING everything for them.

Lets put it this way.

You get a new job, but are being underpaid and and bullied. You complain to your employer and ask repeatedly for better conditions. He smacks you, and locks you in your office until all the work is done.

Thats NOT the real world. It works BOTH WAYS.

I did not say that parents should molly coddle their kids, what i did say is to give children priority of attention, and they WILL shut up. If a kid is crying that he wants this or that, a little bit of attention and playing with them will make them forget about whatever it is.

Its called distraction. If a kid wants a new toy, show him/her something they already have, but DONT just give it them and tell them to "go play", actually play with them, read them a book, have a cuddle, whatever.

Its all attention, and it really works.

But it has to be done from day one.

I see shit parents every day, and despise parents who hit or smack their children. It is a cruel and ineffective way of bringing up a child. It shows a total lack of control in the parent. If you wish to continue this conversation, please PM me, or add me on msn at cscobbz@gmail.com

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fena wrote:
CobbZ wrote:
To be honest, your parents shouldn't have kids if they had you to do chores for what seems like hours every day.

Im sure your parents would justify themselves by calling it "character building" or some bullshit, but at the end of the day, all it does is cause suffering.

I hope you dont bring up your kids in the same way. Be selfless with you children.


I'm going to have to disagree a little. I argue with my parents, quite a bit, over this and that. But in the end, I love them, and they don't know how much I appreciate them, and everything that they do for me. I've never told them, but I do. I really do.
The kids are the one that should be selfless. Parents spend God only knows how much money to raise a child - food, board, clothes... everything, and if you're lucky, they'll even pay your way through college. A little mowing the lawn and washing the dishes is the LEAST that a child can do to repay everything that their parents have done for them.

Cobbz wrote:
Im sure your parents would justify themselves by calling it "character building" or some bullshit, but at the end of the day, all it does is cause suffering.


All work, or most work, is suffering. I don't think I know anybody that wouldn't rather be lying on the Bahamas drinking Pina Coladas, then working. If your kids suffer mowing the lawn - fine. No one ever said that that was fun. I don't think it's fun. But I still do it. I don't think vacuming the goddamn house is fun. That's my least favorite chore to do. But I do it. And I don't complain. They feed me, they clothes me, they give me room and board, and I live in a beautiful city, and go to one of the best schools in the nation.
I'm not complaining over a few chores, and God help any child that is.

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You edited your post, so I'll edit mine.

Cobbz wrote:
I also hate children who cry and whine in stores, but the way to stop that is give them attention and explain EVERYTHING, not just smack them and tell them to shut up. I regularly see these kinds of children in supermarkets, and all i do is talk to them and give them attention for 2-5 minutes, and oh, look at that, the kid is happy again.


Kids that whine and cry in stores are little brats that deserve to be smacked, and told to STFU. You give them attention, they'll think that it's okay to whine and cry about how they want that dress. They won't learn that there are limits. You spoil your kids, and when they grow up and enter the real world, it'll be like they were dropped in ice cold water, doused in it. The real world isn't a nice place where your parents pamper you and coddle you and buy everything for you. Those kinds of kids will only suffer in the future.
And yes, working does build character. If you think that kids who are pampered and have a silver spoon in their mouth, have any character, then, I'm sorry, but you're sadly mistaken. :( Kids that aren't pampered are ready to face the real world, are much more prepared than kids that are.



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