Post subject: What do people in the middle east teach their kids of Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:32 am
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After talking to a bunch of ppl on SRO (prob kids) about what they know about Israel, it seems the word Israel and Jew is the equivalent of Noob, motherfcker, asshole, etc. It seems to be used more as an insult/derogatory term than as a name of a race of people.
After asking around what they know of it, they all seem to agree that Jewish people are gypsies who stole land from them and don't deserve it and should remain as gypsies and wander the earth. Considering that mostly kids play SRO, this should indicate that they get these train of thought not from themselves, but most likely from their parents and those around them. This really makes me wonder what they teach their kids over there.
What do you guys think? Anyone here from the middle east like to share what is taught over there considering Israel? I am really curious as to why there is so much hate over something that is so old. It seems that the hate is there simply because they want something to be angry about. Hence parents passing on the thought that these people are bad, simply because they are. Kids grow up to this thinking it's true and pass it on to their kids. Endless cycle of hate just seems so pointless to me.
Note: Not really sure if this belongs in GD or OTL. It started off cuz I killed some nub on my server and he got mad and started calling me a Jew... I was like how am I a Jew... I'm asian... Then he started on the usual fck mather tirade except I noticed that every other line he would call me a Jew or throw in Fck Israel... so that got me curious how I became associated with Israel simply by pwning him.
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Post subject: Re: What do people in the middle east teach their kids of Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:26 am
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just as a side-note: israeli citizens aren't allowed to enter the hermit kingdom, so general dislike of srael is more broad than just the middle east.
as for the middle east, a lot of the distrust and dislike towards israel is because it's associated with the west, land of the heretics and the crusaders.
however, there are many people that see the mandate for palestine as unfair and project anger on those who benefitted from it: the jews.
a lot of this stems from a long religious confict in palestine too.
it's a complex phenomenon with many different angles to look at it.
but i won't get into that too much...after all, i'm not from the middle east, so disregard everything i just said.
Post subject: Re: What do people in the middle east teach their kids of Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:59 am
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yea same shit on all servers, i used to get spawn killed in pvp when i was low lvl when people found out I was Jewish and support Israel, sometimes pked. But i have many muslim friends on my server who are really great people and we have respect for each others religions and beliefs. It is sad though to see the majority of players that hate Israel so much.
Post subject: Re: What do people in the middle east teach their kids of Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:00 am
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This is all f*cking retarded...the lowest form of humanity...hating people just because you were told to...and hating a culture just because they're different....Its the lowest form of intelligence possible.....
But I blame the so called grown ups of society...(any society)..the ones who have been around long enough and had enough time to assess their beliefs and actions over the years but failed. These nitwit can't seem to think for themselves they just blindly follow outdated nonsense and garbage and then tell their children to carry on with the neanderthal type behavior.......
I'd like to say that religion makes dumb asses out of people but the seed for retardation was already sowed from within...If you have the ability to look within yourself and see the errors of your ways but made no effort to do so then you are lower than a common stray dog in the streets....illiteracy is a pain
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Post subject: Re: What do people in the middle east teach their kids of Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:19 am
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BuDo wrote:
This is all f*cking retarded...the lowest form of humanity...hating people just because you were told to...and hating a culture just because they're different....Its the lowest form of intelligence possible.....
But I blame the so called grown ups of society...(any society)..the ones who have been around long enough and had enough time to assess their beliefs and actions over the years but failed. These nitwit can't seem to think for themselves they just blindly follow outdated nonsense and garbage and then tell their children to carry on with the neanderthal type behavior.......
I'd like to say that religion makes dumb asses out of people but the seed for retardation was already sowed from within...If you have the ability to look within yourself and see the errors of your ways but made no effort to do so then you are lower than a common stray dog in the streets....illiteracy is a pain
Couldn't say it better. No one has the luxury of choosing what culture they are born into. Be it in Iraq,Afghan,Israel,America. They are people. In War, those differences are looked at as an excuse to kill. Idk how many times I've heard "We should just bomb all of Iraq". I then say, what the **** about the civilians that want nothing more than to live in peace there? "Well then they should be at war with us" **** I hate retards.. No one is responsible for the actions of another. Sometimes I've wondered, how many of those men and woman that have died in the war over the last couple years that had the war not happened, may have became best friends or even married and had children. But instead they get to kill each other. However a sad fact is, the World isn't all Sugar and Rainbows. Fuck Tards exists to pray on the weaknesses of an entire civilization turning them into a face to be feared by the common people. I don't like it, but even when I look at a Muslim or someone of middle eastern persuasion, I think about terrorism and Immediately judge them because I don't know them personally. I Farking hate it, but I can't help it. That's what the world has become.
Post subject: Re: What do people in the middle east teach their kids of Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:12 am
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@ the video... HOLY SHITTT!!! i dont think songs or shows for children should contain the words AK-47, war, destroy, or fight in them... ppl be fcked up these days... this reminded me of a criminal minds episode i saw... this guy stole a lot of uncut diamonds from a boat, then sold them to a jew for 100k, when the jew was confronted on why the big ripoff by the police... he simply said "i saw a transaction where the 2 partys involved left happy, so i still sleep well at night" of course he does after he sold those diamonds for more than 5m... fckin jews xD
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Post subject: Re: What do people in the middle east teach their kids of Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:56 pm
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asusi wrote:
those are kids whose family is killed in-front of them bet you did the same
you probably would
if i had been raised in such a biased environment that planted the idea of the holy war and gave me an exact picture of a bogeyman in my head at such an early age, i'd be all for blowing myself up for allah and taking the enemy down with me. But since i grew up with a more transparent news/information source and believe that we created our gods and not the other way around, i'd seek justice rather than retribution.
The ones at fault are the extremist adults who, blinded by anger afterprobably having lost family members and fighting for their ideology, selfishly drag the next generation into it ,not giving them a chance to think for themselves.
Post subject: Re: What do people in the middle east teach their kids of Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:35 pm
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before i reply, im from Israel aswell.
On topic, i dont think it has anything to do with "hate" in particular, this is a common primitive behavior and sign of brainwashing. just like they are told to believe in GOD / ALLAH and that blowing up will get them 72 virgins etc.
I dont care about your or others beliefs, dont get me wrong. but im ALL against people, that still, in year 2010, can simply rely on what others tell say. (ie parents / grown ups).
I stopped talking to people that say "trust me i know", "thats how it is" years ago. Use the internet, make some research and come to your own conclusions. Arguing with a kiddy that just repeats what his retarded father told him, is like arguing with a hillbilly.
(btw, i wont say Israelis lack extreme fanatics, but the percentage is lower compared to other countries).
ps: if you didn't realize why most turks have "fck_israel" in grant, is because of the turkish conflict on the human rights boat that happened recently, that just gave them fuel for 40 years more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_flotilla_raid
Post subject: Re: What do people in the middle east teach their kids of Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:07 pm
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To answer the topic title directly;
We/they don't teach them anything. They can already see the truth. Your corrupted media is not able to reach their minds. What they see with their own eyes, is what they need to know about Israel. They don't need anyone to teach them anything.
Post subject: Re: What do people in the middle east teach their kids of Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:10 pm
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Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:
asusi wrote:
those are kids whose family is killed in-front of them bet you did the same
you probably would
if i had been raised in such a biased environment that planted the idea of the holy war and gave me an exact picture of a bogeyman in my head at such an early age, i'd be all for blowing myself up for allah and taking the enemy down with me. But since i grew up with a more transparent news/information source and believe that we created our gods and not the other way around, i'd seek justice rather than retribution.
The ones at fault are the extremist adults who, blinded by anger afterprobably having lost family members and fighting for their ideology, selfishly drag the next generation into it ,not giving them a chance to think for themselves.
I haven't had a good laugh on the internet for a while before reading this bolded statement.
Post subject: Re: What do people in the middle east teach their kids of Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:11 pm
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K.K wrote:
I'm from middle east, I don't hate anyone for his nationality or religion, but I feel sorry for Palestinian people.
you should feel sad for people that were trapped in tsunami or lost their house / loved ones due to hurricanes. not for people that stay by choice. understand the difference between the two.
Post subject: Re: What do people in the middle east teach their kids of Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:59 pm
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K.K wrote:
I'm from middle east, I don't hate anyone for his nationality or religion, but I feel sorry for Palestinian people.
THIS and when i came to usa worked in a huge kosher restaurant was a Muslim ended up being manger assistant. i made some friends of them and never had some thing against them
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i'm sure some kids in the middle east can spell "death to all jews" before counting to ten
those are kids whose family is killed in-front of them bet you did the same
thats a song
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Post subject: Re: What do people in the middle east teach their kids of Israel
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:36 am
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The second post contains "inb4lock". Simple question really. What the fuck?
Has this forum gone so much downhill that we can no longer have an adult discussion without it being locked or ending in a flame war? I didn't read the rest of the replies before posting this, but considering the wall of videos ect, I imagine that has already happened.
By the way, that question was rhetorical. I think the answer is quite clear.
Post subject: Re: What do people in the middle east teach their kids of Israel
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:49 am
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The second post contains "inb4lock". Simple question really. What the fuck?
Has this forum gone so much downhill that we can no longer have an adult discussion without it being locked or ending in a flame war? I didn't read the rest of the replies before posting this, but considering the wall of videos ect, I imagine that has already happened.
By the way, that question was rhetorical. I think the answer is quite clear.
Yes.
loled at adult conversations in GD. Adult conversations rarely happen in OTL, asking that from GD is.....well you get it.
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Post subject: Re: What do people in the middle east teach their kids of Israel
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:04 pm
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in ALL cultures, truth is manipulated to fit one's personal agenda.
majincooler said: "We/they don't teach them anything. They can already see the truth...What they see with their own eyes, is what they need to know...That's the bottom line."
that statement is correct. however. it's only half the story. when the people fail to look beyond what they see and seek after retribution and supposed justice, which is really revenge brought on by anguish and sorrow, rather than finding a true solution to the problem, a solution that will have to involve the complete transformation of the hearts and minds of the people beyond the satisfaction of their selfish desires, that is what results.
Fact is, as long as we're all in it for our selfs, crime, war and hatred will continue in the world.
and you don't have to go to the middle east to find that. ask anybody from the abandoned "hoods" of the USA or anywhere else.
it's a world wide problem.
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Post subject: Re: What do people in the middle east teach their kids of Israel
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:37 pm
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sn1kzZe wrote:
K.K wrote:
I'm from middle east, I don't hate anyone for his nationality or religion, but I feel sorry for Palestinian people.
you should feel sad for people that were trapped in tsunami or lost their house / loved ones due to hurricanes. not for people that stay by choice. understand the difference between the two.
Please elaborate on this, I do not understand what you are trying to say exactly.
Post subject: Re: What do people in the middle east teach their kids of Israel
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:38 pm
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sn1kzZe wrote:
K.K wrote:
I'm from middle east, I don't hate anyone for his nationality or religion, but I feel sorry for Palestinian people.
you should feel sad for people that were trapped in tsunami or lost their house / loved ones due to hurricanes. not for people that stay by choice. understand the difference between the two.
Please elaborate on this, I do not understand what you are trying to say exactly.
Post subject: Re: What do people in the middle east teach their kids of Israel
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:35 pm
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I just made a thread referring to a topic near this. Different country / religion. This will only cause flames and that will lead to a lock. So i suggest we drop the topic before it gets blocked.
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Post subject: Re: What do people in the middle east teach their kids of Israel
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:22 pm
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We're not having these topics for a while anymore. As mentioned, they'll all turn into flamefests sooner or later, and the staff lacks time to constantly babysit threads like these until we have more than enough reasons to quickly lock them and hand out warnings.
Can't you guys babble about something happy? The latest film you've seen and what you thought of it? Isn't someone having his or her birthday today that you can dedicate a thread to? The draw something funny in paint seemed like a step in the right direction.
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