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Squirt
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Post subject: Arizona trying to Secede from Union Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:28 pm |
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Quote: Arizona to secede (without OFFICIALLY doing so)
Members of the state Legislature, including Arizona's de facto governor, Senate President Russell Pearce, have introduced a bill that essentially would have Arizona secede from the union without having to do so officially.
Really.
It's called SB1433, (See it here.) It creates a 12-member committee within the legislature that could "vote by simple majority to nullify in its entirety a specific federal law or regulation that is outside the scope of the powers delegated by the people to the federal government…"
Committee members themselves would decide this, then pass along their recommendation to the full Legislature. If, in turn, a majority of state lawmakers go along with the committee then, according to the bill, "this state and its citizens shall not recognize or be obligated to live under the statute, mandate or executive order."
The nullification committee also would be permitted to review all existing federal laws to see if our legislative geniuses want to toss them out as well.
In every legislative session in every state throughout the land there are proposals like this, usually made by a few fringe members who know their proposal has no chance but file it anyway to serve some personal or political agenda.
In this instance, legislators here -- who claim to be strict constitutionalists -- seem fairly willing to ignore what is commonly called the "supremacy clause" of the U.S. Constitution (as well as the Fourteenth Amendment), and which more or less say that federal law supersedes state law.
A state or a person can challenge such laws in court. But a state can't on its own simply declare a federal law to be unconsitutional.
Legislators who propose such things often are quietly patted on the heads and laughed off by their colleagues.
In our case, however, the legislation is being proposed by, among others, Sen. Pearce, the most powerful person in state government.
So, as wacky as the proposal is, that makes it much less of a laughing matter. Good luck when Colorado shuts off their power and water supply =D! http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/EJMontini/117684
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Post subject: Re: Arizona trying to Secede from Union Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:51 pm |
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So Arizona is basically a neo-con California?
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Post subject: Re: Arizona trying to Secede from Union Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:54 pm |
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i don't understand why you would want to unofficially leave the most powerful country in the world.
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Post subject: Re: Arizona trying to Secede from Union Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:20 pm |
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its cause Arizona is full of the stupid.
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Post subject: Re: Arizona trying to Secede from Union Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:22 pm |
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Why would they do that. lawl.
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Post subject: Re: Arizona trying to Secede from Union Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:52 am |
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I mean, it's not like this state is really that intelligent? SB1070, I mean come on look at this place, a police chief from I THINK Tucson (may have been another city in AZ) called it the mecca of bigotry lol
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Post subject: Re: Arizona trying to Secede from Union Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:00 am |
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Who would want to leave from the protection of the strongest nation in the world anyways?
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Post subject: Re: Arizona trying to Secede from Union Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:31 am |
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This is real??
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Post subject: Re: Arizona trying to Secede from Union Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:38 am |
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I think all states should secede, obama is bad!
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Post subject: Re: Arizona trying to Secede from Union Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:10 am |
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Fiction wrote: I think all states should secede, obama is bad! Trollface
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Post subject: Re: Arizona trying to Secede from Union Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:06 pm |
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inky wrote: Every state in the US can secede from the Union as far NY is concerned. If there was an option of magically cutting out NJ and let it flow out into the Atlantic, I would definitely do it. I don't care about Arizona and the people in it - they are bound to be extinct soon thanks to the increasing population of Sarlaccs in the area. I google'd sarlacc 
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Post subject: Re: Arizona trying to Secede from Union Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:34 pm |
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[SD]Twysta wrote: inky wrote: Every state in the US can secede from the Union as far NY is concerned. If there was an option of magically cutting out NJ and let it flow out into the Atlantic, I would definitely do it. I don't care about Arizona and the people in it - they are bound to be extinct soon thanks to the increasing population of Sarlaccs in the area. I google'd sarlacc  The force is not strong in this one
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Post subject: Re: Arizona trying to Secede from Union Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:10 am |
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2 words Attention Whore! 
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Post subject: Re: Arizona trying to Secede from Union Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:50 am |
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Arizona to get conquered by Mexico. You heard it here first 
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Post subject: Re: Arizona trying to Secede from Union Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:28 am |
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cpinney wrote: its cause Arizona is full of the stupid. You sir made me smile.
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Post subject: Re: Arizona trying to Secede from Union Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:59 pm |
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it's like texas over again... try to secede-> reality hits and realize they'll becoming a 3rd world country the moment they do-> shuts up and listens to DC again edit: nvm, let them secede, more money diverted to my state  or just sell arizona to Mexico, and alaska to russia to wipe out national debt
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Post subject: Re: Arizona trying to Secede from Union Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:23 pm |
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satman83 wrote: [SD]Twysta wrote: I google'd sarlacc  The force is not strong in this one Quote: The sarlacc is a fictional creature in George Lucas's science fiction saga Star Wars. Just OMFG
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Post subject: Re: Arizona trying to Secede from Union Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:12 pm |
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How about letting them officially secede? Fewer votes for religious fundamentalists in 2012!
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