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 Post subject: Re: Anti-BOT on other mmorpg is amazing!!!
PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:07 pm 
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Do you really think a turk could solve that ?O.o

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:08 pm 
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and if you write it wrong..? xD

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 Post subject: Re: Anti-BOT on other mmorpg is amazing!!!
PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:09 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Anti-BOT on other mmorpg is amazing!!!
PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:12 pm 
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Who da ..... care? :)

It's easy for human, just try to look it carefully. Or just ask the what words contain a snake or a worm.
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 Post subject: Re: Anti-BOT on other mmorpg is amazing!!!
PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:17 pm 
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Silo, It can still be bypassed.

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 Post subject: Re: Anti-BOT on other mmorpg is amazing!!!
PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:19 pm 
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Silo, It can still be bypassed.

That's the point. Because they bypass it, they dont send the respond the request, so their connection is cut.

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 Post subject: Re: Anti-BOT on other mmorpg is amazing!!!
PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:21 pm 
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Silo, It can still be bypassed.

That's the point. Because they bypass it, they dont send the respond the request, so their connection is cut.


I mean bypass as in that it's possible to still type in what the image is via 3rd party program, not bypass as in not typing a solution.


~edit~

But I will agree that it will cut down the majority of the script kiddies.

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 Post subject: Re: Anti-BOT on other mmorpg is amazing!!!
PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:41 pm 
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Captcha code not necessary demand to type what shown in the window. It could be in a question type. Like:
"If i give u 4 oranges, then take from u 2 oranges, then multiply the number of the rest of oranges u have. How many oranges u have in the end?"

Like this, i doubt any captcha regconition can answer it.

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Captchas like that have been exploited. And considering this is an international version of sro, a captcha such as that would render useless as there are many people who can not read English.

Only purpose of a captcha is to slow down or discourage cheaters, hackers, and so on. If there is a will, there is a way.

The only real effective Captcha is a segmented captcha. Even these have been exploited.


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turks dont speak english :o and most of the sro players either. Theres no unbreakable captcha but if Joymax wanted to really get rid of bots it would have done it by now since there are much more efficient methods.

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turks dont speak english :o and most of the sro players either. Theres no unbreakable captcha but if Joymax wanted to really get rid of bots it would have done it by now since there are much more efficient methods.



+2

Joymax is not as stupid as people think. They coudl have fixed everything a long time ago. Too many things have added to the downfall of SRO.

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 Post subject: Re: Anti-BOT on other mmorpg is amazing!!!
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Eh, the best way this would work (imo) would be to have a [!] box appear, then if you click on it you just enter in 4 symbol code. To prevent not noticing it, just have a purple message appear like server inspection, saying "5 minutes left to enter code" then do 3-2-1-30 seconds. Failure to enter DC's them. This wouldn't be 100% effective, but it could give us a few days of bot free sro. The only way I see Sro ever being bot free is to combine the servers to like 5-10, and just have 5 GM's on each server once a week for like 2 hours, running around rock mtn and giving people purple messages and PM's. Obviously, this won't get all the bots, but I'm sure a lot of them would stop if they see the player bots get banned.


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Just to show you guys how it goes to cabal.


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NuclearSilo wrote:
it's very simple to resolve the problem created u mentioned above:

- poped up windows is small like 200*300 size.
- pop up only when user is in combat state
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Image code function will be put in server side. If someone how the client didnt receive the code (because bot block it), or didnt recieve any respond associated with the code (coz bot bypass or ignore it), client DC
No respond => stop transmitting data to the client

SRO have autopot, Cabal doesnt. If sro fail with it, then why not cabal?

Sure, 4 mins to kill a unique, and 1 for the code =)


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That's sometimes hard even for a person >.<

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 Post subject: Re: Anti-BOT on other mmorpg is amazing!!!
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its a never ending race really:

bot gets smarter --> GM use new method --> bots gets smarter again --->GM use new method again


unless JM have active GMs that ban people on the spot, bots will always be a problem, because there're always ways to go around automated systems.

edit: and since JM have so much money anyways, I don't see y they can't hire like 5 people just to ban bots all day manually, cheap bastards!

edit2: oh wait, bots help JM make money :(so they'll never get rid of them

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 Post subject: Re: Anti-BOT on other mmorpg is amazing!!!
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Eh, the best way this would work (imo) would be to have a [!] box appear, then if you click on it you just enter in 4 symbol code. To prevent not noticing it, just have a purple message appear like server inspection, saying "5 minutes left to enter code" then do 3-2-1-30 seconds. Failure to enter DC's them. This wouldn't be 100% effective, but it could give us a few days of bot free sro. The only way I see Sro ever being bot free is to combine the servers to like 5-10, and just have 5 GM's on each server once a week for like 2 hours, running around rock mtn and giving people purple messages and PM's. Obviously, this won't get all the bots, but I'm sure a lot of them would stop if they see the player bots get banned.


better if the icon can only be " clicked " on, other than that it's a good idea ^_^.

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 Post subject: Re: Anti-BOT on other mmorpg is amazing!!!
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better if the icon can only be " clicked " on, other than that it's a good idea ^_^.

The hard part is resolving the image code, not clicking... Even Autoit could do that easily

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The bot programmers would just take an extra step by inserting a image reader. Theres already a re-log program that reads it.. It wouldn't do anything .. just make the bot programmers do more work

would that be possible? I think automated scripting can't crack an image verification code

its already been done


+1, with visual c++ and windows netframework packages you can send the image to a certain program in the background.
The program will then type the imagecode and send it to SRO.

Works with any other image verification

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:28 pm 
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Sorry if this has been posted, but it's 4AM and I haven't read the whole thread.

But I thought Cabal was a destroyed game, like botters a big problem, a situation kind of like here?

Also, WoKF has that to, and they have active GM's. but maybe to active...with they're GM stats and weapons.

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 Post subject: Re: Anti-BOT on other mmorpg is amazing!!!
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you will not have any problem...

right...

in the middle of a unique fight, working hard to stay alive while doing damage, bam! verification pops up and ur dead.

in the middle of euro party grinding. ur the cleric and ur trying hard to heal and keep ur pt alive, bam! verification pops up and ur dead, so is ur whole party, and 7 people pissed off at you.

your botting and having a grand old time, bam! verification pops up and your bot automaticly bypasses it, just like the bots get passes the log in screen, and you keep right on botting and finding ur sosun gearz.

hmmm.... i wonder who this system would benefit and who it would hurt...


bot takes awhile to insert image verification cuz it takes awhile to process the image in ocr

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