Solutions to the bot crisis?

PokeMyPickle · **Posted:** Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:42 am

You know, rather than the standard complaint thread. Let your opinions be heard! Maybe JM/WM will never read these, but maybe a player will get interested and mention it to a GM in game.

1. Bot banning privileges to active GMs. I don't even know if GMs can ban bots. If not, they need that priv.

2. A player "tagging" system. Allow players to, once every hour or so, tag a player they catch botting. It will alert a GM (maybe show all tagged players on their map) and they can investigate. Cool down is to prevent spamming/trolling, investigating in game is to potentially find that a bot is surrounded by 50 brothers.

3. Modified protector items. Remember those, you hit it you die and DC mobs? Bring those back. But modified. Make them stay after they are hit, with a large cooldown (to take out huge fields of bots) but require a captcha to be filled out or boot the player with a temp ban -- and add them to the GM watchlist. Now, the captcha is tough - because they can be automated - so the system would have to be randomized occasionally to beat the programming.

4. GMs can be expensive. Open up voluntary GMs or have a few servers actively watched after. I hate to say it, but a very cheap P2P server (Less than or equal to $5 a month even) would be enough to both pay for the GM's salary AND gain additional profit, at very little cost to the player. (Maybe even give like, a 10% rate boost, to kind of act as a piece of a premium as well).

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So yeah. Active GM's, bot tagging/reporting, protectors, and premium servers. Those are my suggestions, what are yours?!?

Extrme_G · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 748 **Location:**

PokeMyPickle wrote:

You know, rather than the standard complaint thread. Let your opinions be heard! Maybe JM/WM will never read these, but maybe a player will get interested and mention it to a GM in game.

1. Bot banning privileges to active GMs. I don't even know if GMs can ban bots. If not, they need that priv.

2. A player "tagging" system. Allow players to, once every hour or so, tag a player they catch botting. It will alert a GM (maybe show all tagged players on their map) and they can investigate. Cool down is to prevent spamming/trolling, investigating in game is to potentially find that a bot is surrounded by 50 brothers.

3. Modified protector items. Remember those, you hit it you die and DC mobs? Bring those back. But modified. Make them stay after they are hit, with a large cooldown (to take out huge fields of bots) but require a captcha to be filled out or boot the player with a temp ban -- and add them to the GM watchlist. Now, the captcha is tough - because they can be automated - so the system would have to be randomized occasionally to beat the programming.

4. GMs can be expensive. Open up voluntary GMs or have a few servers actively watched after. I hate to say it, but a very cheap P2P server (Less than or equal to $5 a month even) would be enough to both pay for the GM's salary AND gain additional profit, at very little cost to the player. (Maybe even give like, a 10% rate boost, to kind of act as a piece of a premium as well).

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So yeah. Active GM's, bot tagging/reporting, protectors, and premium servers. Those are my suggestions, what are yours?!?

Just ban them all. They don't need gms. developer team can easily see who is botting and who is not botting, they just need to aply ban.

The Invisible · **Joined:** Jan 2011 **Posts:** 2626 **Location:** Home ._.

Btw there is already a (single) p2p server that got released a few months ago that requires a certain silk item to log in (1 month item and another 3 months item), i think that server is 2x or 3x the rates of isro.

To be realistic if they start with a perma-ban at first offence (or said that they will), that ban system won't work, maybe delay the permenant ban to the 2nd or 3rd offence but we would need "real" Gms for that, ones that actually log in the game to do more than "spamming rules and advices"

BladeMaster · **Posted:** Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:43 pm

bro gms dont read these forums so im trying to figure out why ur even posting this here... side note players will never have the ability to ban bots u dont realize joymax doesnt make the game it just sells it. any changes to the game system i.e a report function would have to be made by the korean game developers and then updated to the isro version. sadly enough no one cares about the bot problem so why should i. go to ur spot and grind. if a bot comes murder it and grind off the murder simple >_>

Warspawn · **Joined:** Nov 2011 **Posts:** 279 **Location:** Australia

Stop playing. There's your solution.

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

Trust me when I say this........Joymax can see every account that is botting....No need to come up with clever ways to help them find bots when they don't care to rid the game of the bots they can clearly see....

Threads like these (and there were many) only seemed to make sense in the past because we all believed shitmax was helpless with the issue and could use our help with coming up with ways to save the game. But after 5 years we've become wise to how naive we were by realizing shitmax actually don't care.....5 years of bots....remember that

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

5? ive been playing 6 years

bots wernt a huge issue until 2007 really... thats when shit hit the fan biq time menz

one558 · **Joined:** Dec 2011 **Posts:** 14 **Location:**

They wont ever stop botters because they bring in the most money.

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

one558 wrote:

They wont ever stop botters because they bring in the most money.

congratulations on being wrong.

if one person is running an 8 man party with 8 chars.... hes less likely to buy 8 premiums with pets then 8 seperate people individually buying premiums and pets.

there is no link between people who bot buying more silk then people that dont other then the fact that people who dont bot just dont agree with supporting joymax.

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

penfold1992 wrote:

one558 wrote:

They wont ever stop botters because they bring in the most money.

congratulations on being wrong.

if one person is running an 8 man party with 8 chars.... hes less likely to buy 8 premiums with pets then 8 seperate people individually buying premiums and pets.

Which is why these player are totally unnecessary to the financial well being of shitmax yet they are allowed to remain untouched for years. So a rational notion would be that the bot time they bought for their 8 characters is benefiting joymax financially. So I wouldn't say he's wrong.

penfold1992 wrote:

there is no link between people who bot buying more silk then people that dont other then the fact that people who dont bot just dont agree with supporting joymax.

Might be true but a very large portion of joymax income comes from players who bot and buy silk ...... Over 90% of the currently remaining community are botters that need to buy premiums and exp scrolls for this current cap being that it is so harder to reach..They are the most untouched cheaters in the game....Especially during that period where joymax was briefly banning bots and posting their names....These player bots remained untouchable for the obvious financial reason....

I might be wrong but I sense that you find it hard to accept that joymax is shady

JuelzSantana · **Joined:** Apr 2009 **Posts:** 720 **Location:**

ok for 1 if you have a suggestion i cant understand why waste the time and effort to post it here. post it on the actual silkroad forum or in the free board section where actual GMs and people that run the game can possibly look at your thread. posting it here for 14 yr old kids to read isnt gonna accomplish anything. the only thing it does is bring out silkroad historians like penfold over here talkin about "in 2007 A.D. the illegal program usage was at an all time high" like jesus christ people can you read wtf your posting why are you letting this bother you so much? if i saw half the effort and contemplation ive seen here on this forum about bots put toward solving world problems like starvation and disease we'd all live to be 1000 years old.

i know for a fact half the people posting sht about this bot, and i have one thing to tell you guys be careful what you wish for because it might come true, and when u guys are lvl 30 forever let me know how that feels. do yourself a favor and just quit. u'll never be on par with a bot unless u lose your life and grind to 110+ like dutchy. when i read half the sht on this forum i cant help but think am i the only one with a life???

jesus you people sicken me.

edit: and omfg can you look at the words you people use. bot "crisis"!? WHAT CRISIS!?!?

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

no your right in that there money comes from bots but thats only because it has got like this now...
if they banned bots, then the money would come 90% from legits because there would be a lot more legits playing right?

its not like if you bot youre more likely to buy silk? or if you buy silk that means youre a bot? its just because more bots play so the weighted percentage of money to players are increased by botters.

WoW makes a shit load more money then the gold companys of WoW do... thats an example where it has worked in their favor.

oh and btw Juelz we dont take kindly to your "kind" around here. the only reason we cant get proof is cuz no one plays anymore. its like the death2all case on the forums... just too obvious.

BladeMaster · **Posted:** Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:18 am

juelz went in and i completely agree... penfold i saw ppl making fun of u in hotan on thebes like last week. like u people all go in and ur the laughing stock of silkroad just play the game or quit

BladeMaster · **Posted:** Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:19 am

btw penfold i saw u do a retardted bot walk thru dw >_> u shouldnt accuse ppl

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

penfold1992 wrote:

no your right in that there money comes from bots but thats only because it has got like this now...
if they banned bots, then the money would come 90% from legits because there would be a lot more legits playing right?

its not like if you bot youre more likely to buy silk? or if you buy silk that means youre a bot? its just because more bots play so the weighted percentage of money to players are increased by botters.

WoW makes a shit load more money then the gold companys of WoW do... thats an example where it has worked in their favor.

oh and btw Juelz we dont take kindly to your "kind" around here. the only reason we cant get proof is cuz no one plays anymore. its like the death2all case on the forums... just too obvious.

WoW made legal attempts to thwart gold farming within their game... And they try to stop botting and gold farming at ever turn.....If they didn't they would be losing millions of dollars to black market dealings... I don't see joymax doing any such things... Joymax ain't stopping squat but they show they're not willing to be robed blind by anyone...

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

JuelzSantana wrote:

ok for 1 if you have a suggestion i cant understand why waste the time and effort to post it here. post it on the actual silkroad forum or in the free board section where actual GMs and people that run the game can possibly look at your thread. posting it here for 14 yr old kids to read isnt gonna accomplish anything. the only thing it does is bring out silkroad historians like penfold over here talkin about "in 2007 A.D. the illegal program usage was at an all time high" like jesus christ people can you read wtf your posting why are you letting this bother you so much? if i saw half the effort and contemplation ive seen here on this forum about bots put toward solving world problems like starvation and disease we'd all live to be 1000 years old.

i know for a fact half the people posting sht about this bot, and i have one thing to tell you guys be careful what you wish for because it might come true, and when u guys are lvl 30 forever let me know how that feels. do yourself a favor and just quit. u'll never be on par with a bot unless u lose your life and grind to 110+ like dutchy. when i read half the sht on this forum i cant help but think am i the only one with a life???

jesus you people sicken me.

edit: and omfg can you look at the words you people use. bot "crisis"!? WHAT CRISIS!?!?

To be bothered this much by something so insignificant puts you squarely with the "no lifers" that you're complaining about. You sicken yourself as well...

BladeMaster · **Posted:** Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:39 am

BuDo wrote:

penfold1992 wrote:

no your right in that there money comes from bots but thats only because it has got like this now...
if they banned bots, then the money would come 90% from legits because there would be a lot more legits playing right?

its not like if you bot youre more likely to buy silk? or if you buy silk that means youre a bot? its just because more bots play so the weighted percentage of money to players are increased by botters.

WoW makes a shit load more money then the gold companys of WoW do... thats an example where it has worked in their favor.

oh and btw Juelz we dont take kindly to your "kind" around here. the only reason we cant get proof is cuz no one plays anymore. its like the death2all case on the forums... just too obvious.

WoW made legal attempts to thwart gold farming within their game... And they try to stop botting and gold farming at ever turn.....If they didn't they would be losing millions of dollars to black market dealings... I don't see joymax doing any such things... Joymax ain't stopping squat but they show they're not willing to be robed blind by anyone...

WoW gold is sold everywhere so they didnt do such a good job now did they

JuelzSantana · **Joined:** Apr 2009 **Posts:** 720 **Location:**

BuDo wrote:

JuelzSantana wrote:

ok for 1 if you have a suggestion i cant understand why waste the time and effort to post it here. post it on the actual silkroad forum or in the free board section where actual GMs and people that run the game can possibly look at your thread. posting it here for 14 yr old kids to read isnt gonna accomplish anything. the only thing it does is bring out silkroad historians like penfold over here talkin about "in 2007 A.D. the illegal program usage was at an all time high" like jesus christ people can you read wtf your posting why are you letting this bother you so much? if i saw half the effort and contemplation ive seen here on this forum about bots put toward solving world problems like starvation and disease we'd all live to be 1000 years old.

i know for a fact half the people posting sht about this bot, and i have one thing to tell you guys be careful what you wish for because it might come true, and when u guys are lvl 30 forever let me know how that feels. do yourself a favor and just quit. u'll never be on par with a bot unless u lose your life and grind to 110+ like dutchy. when i read half the sht on this forum i cant help but think am i the only one with a life???

jesus you people sicken me.

edit: and omfg can you look at the words you people use. bot "crisis"!? WHAT CRISIS!?!?

To be bothered this much by something so insignificant puts you squarely with the "no lifers" that you're complaining about. You sicken yourself as well...

im not bothered, im appalled get a dictionary.

BladeMaster · **Posted:** Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:46 am

lol i wish i knew what u all looked like >_>, especially ppl like dutchy who got a lvl 109 legit. ive gotten to 70 back when the cap was 80 if ur gonna play legit u shouldnt have any illusions that ur gonna be a high level. nor should you want it or care about it because then u end up like penfold who im pretty sure is a creeper.

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

BladeMaster wrote:

BuDo wrote:

penfold1992 wrote:

no your right in that there money comes from bots but thats only because it has got like this now...
if they banned bots, then the money would come 90% from legits because there would be a lot more legits playing right?

its not like if you bot youre more likely to buy silk? or if you buy silk that means youre a bot? its just because more bots play so the weighted percentage of money to players are increased by botters.

WoW makes a shit load more money then the gold companys of WoW do... thats an example where it has worked in their favor.

oh and btw Juelz we dont take kindly to your "kind" around here. the only reason we cant get proof is cuz no one plays anymore. its like the death2all case on the forums... just too obvious.

WoW made legal attempts to thwart gold farming within their game... And they try to stop botting and gold farming at ever turn.....If they didn't they would be losing millions of dollars to black market dealings... I don't see joymax doing any such things... Joymax ain't stopping squat but they show they're not willing to be robed blind by anyone...

WoW gold is sold everywhere so they didnt do such a good job now did they

True you are right...That's how hard it is to stop completely...But they still try...I think joymax choose to not fight it but join it by allowing it and sharing the black market profits.

BladeMaster · **Posted:** Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:51 am

i think u give them too much credit

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

JuelzSantana wrote:

BuDo wrote:

JuelzSantana wrote:

ok for 1 if you have a suggestion i cant understand why waste the time and effort to post it here. post it on the actual silkroad forum or in the free board section where actual GMs and people that run the game can possibly look at your thread. posting it here for 14 yr old kids to read isnt gonna accomplish anything. the only thing it does is bring out silkroad historians like penfold over here talkin about "in 2007 A.D. the illegal program usage was at an all time high" like jesus christ people can you read wtf your posting why are you letting this bother you so much? if i saw half the effort and contemplation ive seen here on this forum about bots put toward solving world problems like starvation and disease we'd all live to be 1000 years old.

i know for a fact half the people posting sht about this bot, and i have one thing to tell you guys be careful what you wish for because it might come true, and when u guys are lvl 30 forever let me know how that feels. do yourself a favor and just quit. u'll never be on par with a bot unless u lose your life and grind to 110+ like dutchy. when i read half the sht on this forum i cant help but think am i the only one with a life???

jesus you people sicken me.

edit: and omfg can you look at the words you people use. bot "crisis"!? WHAT CRISIS!?!?

To be bothered this much by something so insignificant puts you squarely with the "no lifers" that you're complaining about. You sicken yourself as well...

im not bothered, im appalled get a dictionary.

"WHAT CRISIS"...."you people sicken me".....A clear sign to me that the people who consistently partake in these bot related discussions upset you in some way...I don't need a dictionary to help me define what appears to be your menstrual-like irritability....

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

BladeMaster wrote:

lol i wish i knew what u all looked like >_>, especially ppl like dutchy who got a lvl 109 legit. ive gotten to 70 back when the cap was 80 if ur gonna play legit u shouldnt have any illusions that ur gonna be a high level. nor should you want it or care about it because then u end up like penfold who im pretty sure is a creeper.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4g5zTB0 ... gmKFKM4ApU

ps. ive never ever ever used an illegal program for silkroad.

BladeMaster · **Posted:** Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:36 am

ok bro w/e u say all im saying is i know what i saw

one558 · **Joined:** Dec 2011 **Posts:** 14 **Location:**

I only say that because the vast majority of people left in the game are people using bots. The bots dont come free and all of them are paying for it unless they got a hook up. Most people are spending money on bots and are willing to spend money on silk to level faster with their bot. Yes, joymax is making the majority of their money from botters because they are still there spending money on silk and leveling up.

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

one558 wrote:

I only say that because the vast majority of people left in the game are people using bots. The bots dont come free and all of them are paying for it unless they got a hook up. Most people are spending money on bots and are willing to spend money on silk to level faster with their bot. Yes, joymax is making the majority of their money from botters because they are still there spending money on silk and leveling up.

can you read my post before posting please...

to say things again, if 99.9% of people bot, if 10 people buy a premium that bot thats more then the legits in the entire server...

if there was no bots people would actually consider leveling legit because party leveling is more fun the finding a mob that isnt getting hit by a botting wiz or nuker.

BladeMaster · **Posted:** Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:24 pm

penfold u make me laugh >_> not rly... bro idk what hashish ur smoking or shrooms ur eating but party play/leveling in general is not fun... do u wanna know what is fun the stuff u do after ur leveled like fotress war, job wars, job temple, unique hunting, etc. leveling is the thing u do to get to have fun in the game its not the game nor should it be the main focus point of the game

Elites · **Joined:** Dec 2010 **Posts:** 40 **Location:**

trololololol
Being capped is so boring!!! Just boring noob pvp against bots, e.g 1 Pro_legit_pt can win a FW against 1 whole botter guild (nearly same lvls). And killing uniques being same or lower lv than the players is boring , too. Where is the challenge???
For many legits Pt lvling is as much fun as the other activity (pvp,old job_system,fw,uniques) in SRO(-R). U just need to learn how to play in pt. There are enough guides for it.
Lvling is a part of silkroad.

Extrme_G · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 748 **Location:**

BladeMaster wrote:

penfold u make me laugh >_> not rly... bro idk what hashish ur smoking or shrooms ur eating but party play/leveling in general is not fun... do u wanna know what is fun the stuff u do after ur leveled like fotress war, job wars, job temple, unique hunting, etc. leveling is the thing u do to get to have fun in the game its not the game nor should it be the main focus point of the game

sorry but i leveling for me is not "boring" its fun to got CTF for exp and tickets , its also fun to go FGW i just love it. PVE is not boring if you mix it with some other stuff."But if you level just to be max lv so this game is not for you"

BladeMaster · **Posted:** Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:56 pm

Elites wrote:

trololololol
Being capped is so boring!!! Just boring noob pvp against bots, e.g 1 Pro_legit_pt can win a FW against 1 whole botter guild (nearly same lvls). And killing uniques being same or lower lv than the players is boring , too. Where is the challenge???
For many legits Pt lvling is as much fun as the other activity (pvp,old job_system,fw,uniques) in SRO(-R). U just need to learn how to play in pt. There are enough guides for it.
Lvling is a part of silkroad.

apparently ur on penfolds hashish and shrooms, like im so surprised at the level of disconnect with reality on these forums. rly bro 1 legit vs 50 ppl (size of a lvl 5 guild) his level in a fortress war and he can win? bro what level have u even played to?... im 73 right now on sro r and pt play is not my cup of tea. my guild grinded and grinded and what did we get a slap in the face by the level 90s that botted. so seriously gtfo people who bot know how to pvp 2 ppl with the same gear level skills and class pvp, if its 2 full str chn chars its a stalemate, if its 2 euros its who ever crits, and if its 2 nukers its who ever doesnt block or whoever hits first. seriously ur not better than a bot just cuz u sat down jerked off a little and grinded in a party for 12 hours. all that makes u is an onani shihan to the bots and a fail cuz they will still win. i dont level in the game to reach the cap i could care less about that. i level to compete with the other people on the server so i can actually have fun because silk road at its core is not a game where you just level all day. its all the stuff u can do with ur level once u have it and im sorry to say u cant do much or get far at level 50. well u can get raped but im not into that.

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