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bomben · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 117 **Location:**

Crit is essential for all str chars no matter wether they are euro or china, sun or not

tell me how am i supposed to kill a sun blader in snow without a bunch of crits, with their kd and iron wall

believe me or not crit is the most important stat on a str weapon. phy att, reinf or ar change ur dmg so significantly, u dont even recognize. crit does the difference

back 2 topic now

XMoshe · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:09 pm

I got a different opinion then...And how often do you see a sun blader? >.> Thats only an exception on the rule.

Lempi · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3203 **Location:** England

bomben wrote:

Crit is essential for all str chars no matter wether they are euro or china, sun or not

tell me how am i supposed to kill a sun blader in snow without a bunch of crits, with their kd and iron wall

believe me or not crit is the most important stat on a str weapon. phy att, reinf or ar change ur dmg so significantly, u dont even recognize. crit does the difference

back 2 topic now

I accept your opinion, but its still stupid. You're totally wrong. High phy and reinforce > crit any day.

the_wicked · **Posted:** Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:53 pm

Lempi wrote:

bomben wrote:

Crit is essential for all str chars no matter wether they are euro or china, sun or not

tell me how am i supposed to kill a sun blader in snow without a bunch of crits, with their kd and iron wall

believe me or not crit is the most important stat on a str weapon. phy att, reinf or ar change ur dmg so significantly, u dont even recognize. crit does the difference

back 2 topic now

I accept your opinion, but its still stupid. You're totally wrong. High phy and reinforce > crit any day.

lol.

so you'd rather have an 80% phys/phys reinf crit 2 sword over a 41% phys/ 61% reinf crit 12 sword? gg.

Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

the_wicked wrote:

Lempi wrote:

bomben wrote:

Crit is essential for all str chars no matter wether they are euro or china, sun or not

tell me how am i supposed to kill a sun blader in snow without a bunch of crits, with their kd and iron wall

believe me or not crit is the most important stat on a str weapon. phy att, reinf or ar change ur dmg so significantly, u dont even recognize. crit does the difference

back 2 topic now

I accept your opinion, but its still stupid. You're totally wrong. High phy and reinforce > crit any day.

lol.

so you'd rather have an 80% phys/phys reinf crit 2 sword over a 41% phys/ 61% reinf crit 12 sword? gg.

Depends on weapon & build really... if I was playing Glavie, I'd take High phy and reinforce.
If I was playing Rogue, I'd take Crit anyday.

the_wicked · **Posted:** Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:13 am

2handed I take the crit, but I agree with the glaive.

F-22 · **Posted:** Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:24 pm

depends on who you are fighting against, if your opponent has good defense then you will need crit to kill him/her. Even high phy attack and phy reinforcement still hard to kill a ppl with good defense. In my opinion, there should be a ratio between crit, phy attack, and phy reinforcement. you cant have high phy attack and phy reinforcement with low crit or vice versa. should be around 40% on at least two of the stats i mentioned above and the other stat should be 60%+. Also attack rating is important, dont forget that.

bomben · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 117 **Location:**

dont act like u were smart, untamed

xD

SwordCloud · **Posted:** Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:58 pm

The best way is still to have both.
Crit make you dmg X2 however if you do low dmg is don't worth to have some crit cause for chinese pot will do all work.
For me the best is hight DMG and low crit if you really have to choose.
..............................................................
Explaination:
Low CRIT/but nice dmg(phy reinforce + % increse physique increase power)
I Dare Devil,6k and 7k(no crit)
crit:12k and 14k the other is not down (str blader have ~30 ~33k HP)
2poss:I can't crit with the other shot to badz.
I crit the other will down.
Low DMG but nice CRIT
I dare Devil 5k and 6k
CRIT 10k and 12K 22k
even if I crit after the blader will not go down.
..................................................................

the_wicked · **Posted:** Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:08 pm

Your forget that 41% whites -> 61% whites dont change your damage by 2k.
more like 500 dmg.

lol

i noticed a drop of about 300-500 avg. when i assimed my 61% reinf -> 41%.

OTG · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 1060 **Location:**

the_wicked wrote:

Your forget that 41% whites -> 61% whites dont change your damage by 2k.
more like 500 dmg.

lol

i noticed a drop of about 300-500 avg. when i assimed my 61% reinf -> 41%.

At times that 500 damage can be the difference between a win and a loss.

the_wicked · **Posted:** Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:16 pm

OTG wrote:

the_wicked wrote:

Your forget that 41% whites -> 61% whites dont change your damage by 2k.
more like 500 dmg.

lol

i noticed a drop of about 300-500 avg. when i assimed my 61% reinf -> 41%.

At times that 500 damage can be the difference between a win and a loss.

hum..

not when you hit 8-9k daredevils on str chars to begin with.

i dardevil crit most str builds not in armor for 7.5-8k a hit.

16k 15k crits gg.

OTG · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 1060 **Location:**

the_wicked wrote:

OTG wrote:

the_wicked wrote:

Your forget that 41% whites -> 61% whites dont change your damage by 2k.
more like 500 dmg.

lol

i noticed a drop of about 300-500 avg. when i assimed my 61% reinf -> 41%.

At times that 500 damage can be the difference between a win and a loss.

hum..

not when you hit 8-9k daredevils on str chars to begin with.

i dardevil crit most str builds not in armor for 7.5-8k a hit.

16k 15k crits gg.

I've had times before where people have told me that I dropped them pretty low. Meaning like in less than 1,000 HP left. So you never know. Maybe if the reinforcement + physical attack power was at 80+ instead of 41% I would have killed them right? :wink:

xibalba · **Joined:** Jan 2009 **Posts:** 1 **Location:** turkey

SwordCloud · **Posted:** Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:53 pm

xibalba wrote:

You need to farm a little

xKingpinx · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2153 **Location:**

the_wicked wrote:

OTG wrote:

the_wicked wrote:

Your forget that 41% whites -> 61% whites dont change your damage by 2k.
more like 500 dmg.

lol

i noticed a drop of about 300-500 avg. when i assimed my 61% reinf -> 41%.

At times that 500 damage can be the difference between a win and a loss.

hum..

not when you hit 8-9k daredevils on str chars to begin with.

i dardevil crit most str builds not in armor for 7.5-8k a hit.

16k 15k crits gg.

what ? why only 7.5-8k? shouldnt you be hitting like 15k+ crits?

Majorharper · **Posted:** Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:47 am

To end all arguments :

And I OWN pvp... I pvped a bowman lvl 55, no npc garment (my opponent) and i killed him in 3 shots! I dont need crit! Muahahahahha, ahem anyways yea my bow owns!

Btw im lvl 52...

So I hope that ended all arguments...

Something tells me I only stirred things even more :S hahaha

Phys. Att. and Phys. Reinforce is much better

The only reason the crit is 2 is because i failed 17 crit stones on my precious bow >:( :banghead:

Crowley · **Posted:** Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:35 am

Master_of_Puppets wrote:

To end all arguments :

And I OWN pvp... I pvped a bowman lvl 55, no npc garment (my opponent) and i killed him in 3 shots! I dont need crit! Muahahahahha, ahem anyways yea my bow owns!

Btw im lvl 52...

So I hope that ended all arguments...

Something tells me I only stirred things even more :S hahaha

Phys. Att. and Phys. Reinforce is much better

The only reason the crit is 2 is because i failed 17 crit stones on my precious bow >:( :banghead:

You're an archer. You're skills give you enough crit, trust me, I know.

XMoshe · **Posted:** Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:17 am

xKingpinx wrote:

the_wicked wrote:

OTG wrote:

At times that 500 damage can be the difference between a win and a loss.

hum..

not when you hit 8-9k daredevils on str chars to begin with.

i dardevil crit most str builds not in armor for 7.5-8k a hit.

16k 15k crits gg.

what ? why only 7.5-8k? shouldnt you be hitting like 15k+ crits?

Math ftw? 7.5k times 2 is 15k? It's pure phy damage so it doubles on a crit

xKingpinx · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2153 **Location:**

Quote:

Math ftw? 7.5k times 2 is 15k? It's pure phy damage so it doubles on a crit

wasnt thinking about DareDevil 2 hits... :banghead:

chesticles · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 1978 **Location:**

Bard/Cleric

FireFly · **Posted:** Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:42 am

Pure Int with 15% HP/MP from Devil Spirit.

rozzaa · **Posted:** Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:55 am

Master_Mind wrote:

lol why colour in white? why not just leave it

XMoshe · **Posted:** Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:40 am

garner · **Joined:** Jan 2009 **Posts:** 139 **Location:**

XMoshe wrote:

^__^

s/s nuker pure int with premium + and devil suit lvl 90?

katip:pPp · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 144 **Location:**

garner wrote:

XMoshe wrote:

^__^

s/s nuker pure int with premium + and devil suit lvl 90?

more like hybrid 8:1 or so

XMoshe · **Posted:** Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:15 pm

garner wrote:

XMoshe wrote:

^__^

s/s nuker pure int with premium + and devil suit lvl 90?

Close =p Hybrid idd..No clue what the rate it =p

garner · **Joined:** Jan 2009 **Posts:** 139 **Location:**

i'd say max 15 str points... nice numbers tho..

XMoshe · **Posted:** Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:29 pm

Thanks...When my pots are running out I'll get my naked str/int

hehe

I never really cared for it (except str chars...pure str ftw!). But it's working for atleast this cap so

LightyMighty · **Joined:** Mar 2009 **Posts:** 47 **Location:**

And notice..that turk thief is only that dont listen, it was supposed to be nice photo and all watches the same way.. and that one turk didnt listen again and messed it! ><

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