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 Post subject: Re: What would you change...
PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:32 am 
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its been said a million times, will joymax give in to the potential $$

new silk items:
stat point redistribution potions make it expensive like 100 silk to reset 3 stats. joymax would make alotta money from all those lvl 90 str hybrids. it would cost me alotta $$ but i can still convert my lvl 90 wizard into a pure str rogue and make my 7:1 int spear into a 1:1 hybrid :D
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 Post subject: Re: What would you change...
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loveisintheair wrote:
Whoa, I disagree with most of that.


Why, whats wrong with it? I'm willing to explain my thinking. =]


Sorry, I didn't even phrase that entirely correctly. It's not just that I disagree with some of it, it's also that some points are either subjective or unrealistic or just plain strange.

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  • BAN ALL CHEATERS.

This is like saying "make world peace". Problem is, that not everyone even agrees on the definition of a cheater (I'm sure even the 2 of us won't). For example, something as simple as pk2 editing, is always a the subject of some huge discussion that ends up being locked.

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  • Remove Immolation.

Why?

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    Increase Imbue to (175%)#.

Once again why? To offset some damage difference? Then why specifically that figure? Why not rewrite other numbers? And since we are talking about a multiplier, wouldn't this be beneficial to INTs more than STRs?

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  • Give the force Tree absolute damage attacks and a (125%)#Imbue.

But this is what makes Force a unique tree. Otherwise it will just become like the other masteries. I suppose absolute damage will mimic the euro cleric to a certain degree, so I suppose I won't disagree much there. But the imbue... that's just silly if you ask me, and why on earth specifically a 125% effect, where is the formula or rational behind that?

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  • Stop out of Job Suit clerics/force users.

Hell no. And as for the justification, think of it this way: in real life, a by-stander can intervene in a situation that has nothing to do with him/her (this could be a good or a stupid move, depending on the situation). But he/she could end up paying a price... that could also become a price of its own to the perpetrator. I can't even recall how many out-of-suit clerics I murdered, when my trades were jumped.

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  • Increase the range of fire fly/combustion.

To render invisibility virtually useless? Maybe not increase the range, but tweak it in some other way (I can't think of anything right now).

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  • Give Dual Axe warriors Magical defense increase passive.

Not much of an issue to me, so I won't comment on that.

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  • Set the maximum amount of "foreign" buffs to 7.

Kinda don't care there... so I guess I could agree with you.

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  • Remove auto-pot.

Not having introduced auto-pot to begin with, might have worked. There is no way you can remove it now. People will use-third party tools for it, as the concepts is now well known and needed. I personally have nothing against auto-potting, and would prefer it to stay.

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  • Leave exp ratio as it is but tweak the way you get skills (I.E.) obtaining skills from quest, npc, drops, etc.

Actually, I am not sure what you truly mean by that anymore.
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  • Make fun&rewarding quest.

Agreed. But once again, it is kinda hard to say what is fun and rewarding in today's SRO world.

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  • Job Specific skills.

Agreed.
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  • Fix all bugs.

Once again, I think making world peace is easier. I am a programmer, I can speak from a technical point of view.

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  • Dramatically reduce the gold drop rate after level 20 and increase jobbing profit.

Agreed to a certain extent.

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 Post subject: Re: What would you change...
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I would make exp rates 2x and after 60 lvl you get 4x. Always update fast like if kSRO get update my server get same immediately. Make Skill Points rates higher also by 10x so players wouldn't have to farm :P. Make heuksal have old skill that makes glaiver/spearman spin his weapon. Bring old GSM. Probably delete euro's or delete all of they 45-60 sec buffs. Cleric's int str and bards tambours/dances stay. Lower european characters potion delay to 5-10 seconds. Remove buy-able vigor grains from npc. Delete grains only leave normal vigors but add 10 sec vigor delay for china chars. Let chinese characters have 3 masteries maxed. Like every lvl you get 3 mastery points. Maybe change european to 3 too so people could go full melee + sub or full caster + sub. I know this would give huge advantage to euro but without skins/bless/screens it would still be ok cause european chars would have more skills and would do more weapon switching. Delete sox stat changes just keep shine. Only dmg increases with ++. Bring old jobbing system. And do LOADS OF EVENTS!!! Also ban all bots <.<

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 Post subject: Re: What would you change...
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hmm...
1. make sp gain faster
2. bot ban every 3 days
3. remove euros.
4. active gms
5. a formula for player vs unique... like u can only attack if ur max level is no more than 5 over the uniques level.

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 Post subject: Re: What would you change...
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The goal is to balance Euro and China, eliminate Botting&Gold buying, make Chinese Hybrids more common than pures, and add more strategy to the game. =]

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 Post subject: Re: What would you change...
PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:38 pm 
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Barotix wrote:
The goal is to balance Euro and China, eliminate Botting&Gold buying, make Chinese Hybrids more common than pures, and add more strategy to the game. =]


that would be the perfect sro right there. except... pure str bow no mater what. i say hybrid is for spears and s/s, mabey blader but not much hybrid.

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 Post subject: Re: What would you change...
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The goal is to balance Euro and China, eliminate Botting&Gold buying, make Chinese Hybrids more common than pures, and add more strategy to the game. =]


I believe that balancing european and chinese characters isnt that hard. By removing bless/skins/screens and healing cycle you would probably balance them out enough. Well wizards could lose the life control. But yeah that would be it. I think that would balance things just enough so people would stop complaining about it. But if defense increases get deleted european chars would need to have their potion delay lowered to 5 or atleast 10 seconds.

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 Post subject: Re: What would you change...
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The goal is to balance Euro and China, eliminate Botting&Gold buying, make Chinese Hybrids more common than pures, and add more strategy to the game. =]


I believe that balancing european and chinese characters isnt that hard. By removing bless/skins/screens and healing cycle you would probably balance them out enough. Well wizards could lose the life control. But yeah that would be it. I think that would balance things just enough so people would stop complaining about it. But if defense increases get deleted european chars would need to have their potion delay lowered to 5 or atleast 10 seconds.


isnt it like 30second delay in ksro?

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 Post subject: Re: What would you change...
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Barotix wrote:
The goal is to balance Euro and China, eliminate Botting&Gold buying, make Chinese Hybrids more common than pures, and add more strategy to the game. =]


I believe that balancing european and chinese characters isnt that hard. By removing bless/skins/screens and healing cycle you would probably balance them out enough. Well wizards could lose the life control. But yeah that would be it. I think that would balance things just enough so people would stop complaining about it. But if defense increases get deleted european chars would need to have their potion delay lowered to 5 or atleast 10 seconds.


You can leave all those defensive buffs because it won't matter how strong your cleric is when two Hyb Bladers with Force Kill it. Same with all your int builds. It will also make a difference when str builds start going hyb str for Higher damage. Warrior will have a run for it's money in terms of damage.

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 Post subject: Re: What would you change...
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RuYi wrote:
Start ip-banning whoever bots, buys gold, etc etc yada yada, and keep doing it on a very regular base.
Fixing the imbalance between builds and races.
Increase sp rate, maybe exp rate aswell.

Then perhaps more events, and stuff, but the things listed above would be on my priority list.


IP banning won't work. Then if one person gets banned, the entire network is banned. Internet cafes, universities and other networks that use network address translation.

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i'd delete the sp system at all, so when you lvl up u raise a mastery and skills get maxed automatic
, and i'd add marriage system so male chars can get married to females and get bounses for that :wink:
,make jobs the main part of the game , which means ur actual lvl is your job lvl,and killing mobs add to your strength lvl
,make guards summoned for silk but max 1 guard not like guild mercs
, new glows, alchemy easier ,only som avalible no sos or sun and very rare

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Start ip-banning whoever bots, buys gold, etc etc yada yada, and keep doing it on a very regular base.
Fixing the imbalance between builds and races.
Increase sp rate, maybe exp rate aswell.

Then perhaps more events, and stuff, but the things listed above would be on my priority list.


IP banning won't work. Then if one person gets banned, the entire network is banned. Internet cafes, universities and other networks that use network address translation.

Baning a MAC address would be a lot better, but still, they can just reinstall Windows and they have a new MAC address.

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1. get rid of euros
2. get rid of venus :roll:
3. triple exp and sp rates
4. double drop rates
5. make sure gm's are active in game
6. actually do something about bots
7. ban all turk IP's, they can have thier own sro
8. bring back mercs
9. 100 cap
10. hotan fortress

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 Post subject: Re: What would you change...
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Keep SoX for looks, but kill of uber stats.

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NO EURO!!!!OMGOSH FLAME

He said make it better, not mess it up x2. :P

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8. bring back mercs


:? :? :? Why?????? mercs were one of the worst updates sro ever had every tom dick and harry made their own guild ran around with 10 mercs was the most annoying thing ever.

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8. bring back mercs


:? :? :? Why?????? mercs were one of the worst updates sro ever had every tom dick and harry made their own guild ran around with 10 mercs was the most annoying thing ever.

hes retarded, u have to expect him to say things like that

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i'd just remove ALL bots and all those who charge silk by CCFing,nothing else..i mean the game would be perfect without those 2 things.


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4reaLz wrote:
1. get rid of euros
2. get rid of venus :roll:
3. triple exp and sp rates
4. double drop rates
5. make sure gm's are active in game
6. actually do something about bots
7. ban all turk IP's, they can have thier own sro
8. bring back mercs
9. 100 cap
10. hotan fortress


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Baning a MAC address would be a lot better, but still, they can just reinstall Windows and they have a new MAC address.


hmmm last I checked, MAC addresses are tied to your NIC, not the operating system. You wouldn't need to reinstall Windows, just change the NIC.

MAC cloning can also be performed without reinstalling anything.

Either way, Joymax (and SRF) would probably only see the MAC of your router (can be changed) and not that of your individual PC. So the router would be banned, and everyone behind it.

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If I were you guys or girls for that matter, I'd get a leet team to completely reverse the game client and server files for added cheat proofing before even thinking about tweaking the game features. Once that gets out of the way, trust me it'd be a world of difference. Seen it proven and done on an RYL 2 p-server where the only ones responsible and able to leak out hacks were in fact the same team itself and they did it just for the heck of it. Because you wouldn't wanna be nastily ganked at becoming "official" back to square 1 after all those nifty changes now would you? After all, who the hell in their right mind would wanna bother with another iSRO?

Of course I'm not saying it's gonna be easy though...

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Nixie wrote:
PR0METHEUS wrote:
RuYi wrote:
Start ip-banning whoever bots, buys gold, etc etc yada yada, and keep doing it on a very regular base.
Fixing the imbalance between builds and races.
Increase sp rate, maybe exp rate aswell.

Then perhaps more events, and stuff, but the things listed above would be on my priority list.


IP banning won't work. Then if one person gets banned, the entire network is banned. Internet cafes, universities and other networks that use network address translation.

Baning a MAC address would be a lot better, but still, they can just reinstall Windows and they have a new MAC address.


lmao!!! no!, a MAC adress is on your network card, not in windows.

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Get rid of q8's,arabs and turks.

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Get rid of q8's,arabs and turks.


How about we get rid of people who are narrow minded enough to group all members of a specific race or nationality and say they want them gone?

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Get rid of q8's,arabs and turks.


How about we get rid of people who are narrow minded enough to group all members of a specific race or nationality and say they want them gone?

+1

Get rid of noobs and racists. A lot better. ;)

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1. Add a Turkish, German, Arabic, Egyptian servers. Each to their own country respectively.
2. More Uniques
3. Raid Bosses which drop rare items and jewels (Like L2)

Will Edit as I think of more.

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1. Add a Turkish, German, Arabic, Egyptian servers. Each to their own country respectively.


If you want them to make country-specific SRO versions, why not make one for USA, England, France, Spain, Norway, Peru...

I don't think it's necessary to separate everyone, especially considering this is InternationalSRO. I know Vietnam, China, and a few other countries have that, but is that because Joymax wanted to separate them, or because some company in those countries approached Joymax wanting to buy a license to host their own servers?

I could be wrong, but I would think that someone, with the right resources, could contact Joymax to start up (for example) a gSRO for germans.

I'm assuming that vSRo, cSRO and others are run by separate companies, not by Joymax.

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1. Add a Turkish, German, Arabic, Egyptian servers. Each to their own country respectively.


If you want them to make country-specific SRO versions, why not make one for USA, England, France, Spain, Norway, Peru...

I don't think it's necessary to separate everyone, especially considering this is InternationalSRO. I know Vietnam, China, and a few other countries have that, but is that because Joymax wanted to separate them, or because some company in those countries approached Joymax wanting to buy a license to host their own servers?

I could be wrong, but I would think that someone, with the right resources, could contact Joymax to start up (for example) a gSRO for germans.

I'm assuming that vSRo, cSRO and others are run by separate companies, not by Joymax.

It's true. But however, most of the people are from Turkey or Germany, so if they would get their own Silkroad it would slightly change traffic. They might have better customer service/payment methods, to make it easier for them. But of course they should NOT force them to move to it, would be their own choice. =)

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1. Add a Turkish, German, Arabic, Egyptian servers. Each to their own country respectively.


If you want them to make country-specific SRO versions, why not make one for USA, England, France, Spain, Norway, Peru...

I don't think it's necessary to separate everyone, especially considering this is InternationalSRO. I know Vietnam, China, and a few other countries have that, but is that because Joymax wanted to separate them, or because some company in those countries approached Joymax wanting to buy a license to host their own servers?

I could be wrong, but I would think that someone, with the right resources, could contact Joymax to start up (for example) a gSRO for germans.

I'm assuming that vSRo, cSRO and others are run by separate companies, not by Joymax.

It's true. But however, most of the people are from Turkey or Germany, so if they would get their own Silkroad it would slightly change traffic. They might have better customer service/payment methods, to make it easier for them. But of course they should NOT force them to move to it, would be their own choice. =)


totally sux.
games with only one nationality r boring as hell. one of the best things of play sro is the chance of meet different ppl, other cultures and practice other languages.

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totally sux.
games with only one nationality r boring as hell. one of the best things of play sro is the chance of meet different ppl, other cultures and practice other languages.


I have to agree here. I like meeting different people, even if it's just through an SRO character. I haven't really tried learning other languages, aside from taking spanish classes back in high school over a decade ago, but I wouldn't mind learning another language or two.

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