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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:31 pm  |  |  
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:32 pm  |  |  
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:35 pm  |  |  
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					| Mousetrap wrote: looking for an actual discussion not a one word post.Ok. I think that no one cares. Honestly until you post a vid u can say u beat a gm. Just saying it proves nothing. AND for all we know those ppl could have killed u 50x before u killed them 3. hows that?_________________
 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:42 pm  |  |  
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:42 pm  |  |  
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					| A little better, I suppose. Though I was just using those people and myself as examples / references.. not bragging. I think you misunderstood the entire post.
 on a sidenote though, I am making a video with most of those people included :]
 
 for anyone else who misunderstood like chesticles here; this is about any warrior cleric. They are just such an amazing build.. it's one of few builds where skill > gear imo.
 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:45 pm  |  |  
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					| im a warrior/cleric. yes its a fun build and can tank alot. I also have a sun shield n i wear light armor ^^ _________________
 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:30 am  |  |  
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					| Imo it's the euro build of 90 cap. Put them in the right hands of course. _________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:11 am  |  |  
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:24 am  |  |  
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					| AnarChaos wrote: I think a npc set warrior/warlock can kick ur azz so well   ))So if it was a warrior/warlock Vs. a warrior/cleric, both with NPC sets, who would win?_________________
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:31 am  |  |  
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					| Infectious wrote: AnarChaos wrote: I think a npc set warrior/warlock can kick ur azz so well   ))So if it was a warrior/warlock Vs. a warrior/cleric, both with NPC sets, who would win?Warrior/Cleric hands down. @ Topic Starter To be honest I think it's all about how you PvP. Im 87 Blader with protector on and I can tank out a FF 90 3 weapon Warrior/Cleric enough to give him bleed and roll him. I notice alot of people (80%+) are absolutely clueless in how to properly pvp with their builds. I mean an 87 blader with not even a good set can tank and beat a 90 warrior cleric with sun chest! 25% has to do with build, 25% has to do with skills and 50% with gear. My gear is about 80% done, once it is 100% perfect and I can get full farmed 90, i'll be rolling everyone haha hopefully._________________
 
  
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:31 am  |  |  
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					| Infectious wrote: AnarChaos wrote: I think a npc set warrior/warlock can kick ur azz so well   ))So if it was a warrior/warlock Vs. a warrior/cleric, both with NPC sets, who would win?pot fight, the guy that has the most pots would win_________________
 
 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:44 am  |  |  
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					| Most Euro builds are over powered.As off now, Warrior/Warlock is the "KING" of overpowered builds.
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:49 am  |  |  
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					| meh, i lose sometimes to glaivers in armor that i cant kill fast (well, only one. Green, full 85-89 set with sos chest armor with a +9 glaive) and bladers are fcking hard to kill. otherwise i dont see why anyone is surprised that the rest died. _________________
 
  
 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:54 am  |  |  
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:55 am  |  |  
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					| Mousetrap wrote: A little better, I suppose. Though I was just using those people and myself as examples / references.. not bragging. I think you misunderstood the entire post.
 on a sidenote though, I am making a video with most of those people included :]
 
 for anyone else who misunderstood like chesticles here; this is about any warrior cleric. They are just such an amazing build.. it's one of few builds where skill > gear imo.
 Im the same build, all 3 weapons and loving it. Win 5/6 times with gap8. S/s nukers in armor pwn me for now, until i close gap...I hope.
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:30 am  |  |  
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					| Im better than all of you.
 So just stfu and lock the thread cos it has no purpose.
 
 The question makes no sense.
 
 Skill in SRO, what the **** are you smoking.
 
 There is no skill in lucking 3 crits in a row. Or blocking 5 shots in a row. The game is all about who has better gear. Just because some downie turk can't press 2,3 consecutively like you can doesn't mean you're skillful. It means you can push 2 and 3 and he is a downie.
 
 MMO's are the most un-skilled computer games possible. Being good is built upon time playing mindlessly bashing at a keyboard and nothing else. The only element of skill that comes into play is in an arena based scenario involving teamwork. Which SRO has none of. You win FW if you play alot and con enough people into being your bot-buddy friends.
 
 For the kids over at Venus that will barge in here claiming they are the most skillful SRO players to ever grace Joymax's shit game, you aren't. Numbers and gear will always be the dominating factors.
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:38 am  |  |  
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					| It's fairly obvious that warrior clerics are overpowered. Euros on the whole fit the "excellent at X but awful at Y, and Y is compensated for by Z other class" idea, which is what they should be. Wizards can do huge damage but all except the best die very quickly. Clerics can heal and tank 1v1 very well, but they can't kill (I'm assuming no one is slow enough to let them do an offering). But then we have warriors/clerics who can have crazy high defence for 90 seconds, who can switch to cleric and tank indefinitely if they want to, deal the same damage as a nuker, have multiple instant cast skills that cancel attacks, can close the gap between themselves and an enemy instantly and can break down both sorts of walls with relative ease. I'm sure people will say "oh but any class can be the best if you play it right" and "warrior/clerics take lots of skill to be good at" which are both sort of true, but really it doesn't take that much practice to know what tactics work and to be good at weapon switching, and when you can dull and kd someone and do double damage to them it's pretty clear that they have no chance.
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:43 am  |  |  
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					| not as fun when every other char is a warrior _________________
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					| StacE wrote: For the kids over at Venus that will barge in here claiming they are the most skillful SRO players to ever grace Joymax's shit game, you aren't. Numbers and gear will always be the dominating factors. We are the most skillful SRO players to ever grace Joymax's shit game.  _________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:47 am  |  |  
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					| Argonaut wrote: StacE wrote: For the kids over at Venus that will barge in here claiming they are the most skillful SRO players to ever grace Joymax's shit game, you aren't. Numbers and gear will always be the dominating factors. We are the most skillful SRO players to ever grace Joymax's shit game.  Some Farking idiot had to do it. I guess your shit head thought it was funny._________________
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					| StacE wrote: Argonaut wrote: StacE wrote: For the kids over at Venus that will barge in here claiming they are the most skillful SRO players to ever grace Joymax's shit game, you aren't. Numbers and gear will always be the dominating factors. We are the most skillful SRO players to ever grace Joymax's shit game.  Some Farking idiot had to do it. I guess your shit head thought it was funny.go back to getting butt raped by the bots on your server. just because you have no skill, does not mean no one else does. there are plenty of people on all the servers with skill. now run along dumbass_________________
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					| Fly... It's an MMO. You win by playing more. How is that skill?
 How about we start another colony on a new server Fly. And pretend it's as strong as the others so we can talk about how good we are? Sounds fun ye.
 
 
 EDIT* Hang on I'll give the game some credit. There is some skill involved. The skill level to reach peak though is so small that anyone can pick it up in a matter of hours to days. Once you learn when to press 2 and when to press 3 there is no better way to do it. The situation is the same every time. The way to beat someone is the same every time.
 
 The only time that a different situation is presented is through the use of randomized blocking and critting. But that detracts from the idea of a skillful game. There should not be luck involved in a game requiring skill.
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:18 am  |  |  
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					| lilly_ wrote: Infectious wrote: AnarChaos wrote: I think a npc set warrior/warlock can kick ur azz so well   ))So if it was a warrior/warlock Vs. a warrior/cleric, both with NPC sets, who would win?pot fight, the guy that has the most pots would winare you kidding me lol, the warrior cleric would rape the warrior warlock.. all the warlock sub can do is give bleed (which both of the ones I recall pvping didn't use) and a quick stun. @stace you sound like a tard, lul. There's luck in just about every game I can think of.. except chess or something gay >_>.  @mango best post in thread award
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:54 am  |  |  
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					| I agreed warrior/cleric is, if played correctly, one of the most dominant builds in sro atm. Warriors alone are basically overpowered with all different and insane skills. I however, as a warrior/rogue, did not find any problems finishing warrior/cleric off though. Though warrior/cleric sure deal high damages and has great hp recovery with great defenses, the damages it deal is slow, and there are a lot of ways that you can counter that, IMO. Of course if you know how to use your char properly loolz. I have never been beaten by a warrior/cleric in my server.   @ Mousetrap, with your robe sets like that, against other warriors with heavy armor set full blue pimped or warrior/rogue like me, you wont even have a chance of winning, to be honest  _________________
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					| weymouthhall wrote:  @ Mousetrap, with your robe sets like that, against other warriors with heavy armor set full blue pimped or warrior/rogue like me, you wont even have a chance of winning, to be honest   mmm.. second link in first post; the guy has 4 suns and som legs heavy armor and I beat him so I guess I have a chance o.O. lrn2reed
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?  Posted:  Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:57 am  |  |  
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					| ok i play on ur server i know all these ppl good, the reason why uwin becasue they suck at playing their chars. Like sunzin guy i bet u used shitload vigors vs becasue there is no way u could tank him, and there is no way u could kill him in snow shield + vigors + spec pills. Same about other most of them suck at playing their chars    the warrior with som/sun set just put 2h + warcry, he doesn't use any techniques.
 
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