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 Post subject: Joymax has their own bot?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:06 am 
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Did anyone ever notice this in textuisystem.txt inside Media.pk2?

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//SRO 매크로                                             
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_POTION   자동 물약   0   0   0   0   0   Auto-Potion   Dïng thuèc tù ®éng   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_SKILL   자동 스킬   0   0   0   0   0   Auto-Skills   Kü n¨ng tù ®éng   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING   자동 사냥   0   0   0   0   0   Auto-Hunt   S¨n tù ®éng   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_OPTION   설정   0   0   0   0   0   Options   Tïy chän   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_POTION_OPTION   자동 물약 설정   0   0   0   0   0   Configure Auto-Potion   CÊu h×nh ding thuèc tù ®éng   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_SKILL_OPTION   자동 스킬 설정   0   0   0   0   0   Configure Auto-Skills   CÊu h×nh kü n¨ng tù ®éng   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_OPTION   자동 사냥 설정   0   0   0   0   0   Configure Auto-Hunt   CÊu h×nh s¨n tù ®éng   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_POTION_DESC   HP/MP 게이지의 %를 원하는 수치에 맞춰놓으면 해당 수치가 되었을 때 자동으로 물약을 사용하게 됩니다. 만일 자동으로 회복하고 싶지 않은 파라미터에 대해서는 체크박스의 체크를 없애면 자동회복이 되지 않습니다.   0   0   0   0   0   Set the % of the HP/MP gauge to the desired level to use potions automatically when the gauge reaches that level.  Uncheck any checkbox for the parameter for which you wish to disable the trigger.   ThiÕt lËp % hp, mp ®Ó hÖ thèng tù ®éng uèng m¸u, mana.   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_CH_ABNORMAL_STATUS   중국 상태이상   0   0   0   0   0   Chinese Status Anomaly   Tr¹ng th¸i bÊt th­êng Trung Hoa   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_EU_ABNORMAL_STATUS   유럽 상태이상   0   0   0   0   0   European Status Anomaly   Tr¹ng th¸i bÊt th­êng Ch©u ¢u   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_USE_RINGER_POTION   링거물약 사용   0   0   0   0   0   Use Ringer Potion   Use Ringer Potion   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_OPTION_SAVE   Save   0   0   0   0   0   Save   L­u   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_OPTION_CANCEL   Cancel   0   0   0   0   0   Cancel   Hñy bá   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_POTION_PET_DESC   HP/허기짐 게이지의 %를 원하는 수치에 맞춰놓으면 해당 수치가 되었을 때 자동으로 물약을 사용하게 됩니다. 만일 자동으로 회복하고 싶지 않은 파라미터에 대해서는 체크박스의 체크를 없애면 자동회복이 되지 않습니다.   0   0   0   0   0   Set the % of the HP/Hunger gauge to the desired level to use potions automatically when the gauge reaches that level.  Uncheck any checkbox for the parameter for which you wish to disable the trigger.   Set the % of the HP/Hunger gauge to the desired level to use potions automatically when the gauge reaches that level.  Uncheck any checkbox for the parameter for which you wish to disable the trigger.   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_POTION_PET_HUNGRY   허기짐   0   0   0   0   0   Hunger   §ãi   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_POTION_PET_RECOVER_STATUS   상태이상 회복   0   0   0   0   0   Cure Status Anomaly   Ch÷a trÞ tr¹ng th¸i bÊt th­êng   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_POTION_PET_REVIVAL   부활   0   0   0   0   0   Resurrect   Håi sinh   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_POTION_PET_AUTO_RECALL   자동 소환   0   0   0   0   0   Summon Trigger   Summon Trigger   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_SKILL_DESC   사용하고자 하는 스킬과 무기(방패)를 등록해 놓으면 자동으로 스킬을 사용합니다.   0   0   0   0   0   Assign the skills and weapons (shields) to use the skills automatically.   ThiÕt lËp kü n¨ng vµ vò khÝ (khiªn) ®Ó sö dông kü n¨ng tù ®éng.   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_SKILL_ATTACK_OPTION   공격 스킬 설정   0   0   0   0   0   Configure Attack Skills   ThiÕt lËp kü n¨ng tÊn c«ng   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_SKILL_BUFF_OPTION   버프 스킬 설정   0   0   0   0   0   Configure Buff Skills   ThiÕt lËp kü n¨ng hç trî   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_SKILL_MASTER_SKILL   습득한 스킬   0   0   0   0   0   Acquired Skills   Thu ®­îc kü n¨ng   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_SKILL_USE_SKILL   사용할 스킬   0   0   0   0   0   Skills to Use   Kü n¨ng ®Ó sö dông   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_DESC   사냥하고자 하는 위치로 이동한 뒤 자동 사냥을 실행하면 자동으로 사냥을 시작합니다.   0   0   0   0   0   Move to the location to hunt in and run Auto-Hunt to begin hunting automatically.   Di chuyÓn tíi vÞ trÝ råi sau ®ã sö dông hÖ thèng tù ®éng s¨n.   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_AREA_OPTION   사냥범위 설정   0   0   0   0   0   Configure Hunting Range   ThiÕt lËp kho¶ng c¸ch s¨n   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_AREA_3M   30m   0   0   0   0   0   30 m   30 m   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_AREA_5M   50m   0   0   0   0   0   50 m   50 m   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_AREA_7M   70m   0   0   0   0   0   70 m   70 m   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_AREA_10M   100m   0   0   0   0   0   100 m   100 m   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_WHAN_OPTION   환 모드 설정   0   0   0   0   0   Configure Berserk Mode   ThiÕt lËp chÕ ®é cuång né   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_IMMEDIATELY   모두   0   0   0   0   0   All   All   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_WHAN_POTION   생기의 정수 사용   0   0   0   0   0   Use Energy of Life   Sö dông thñy tinh khÝ   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_AUTO_REVIVAL_OPTION   자동 부활 설정   0   0   0   0   0   Configure Auto-Resurrect   ThiÕt lËp tù ®éng håi sinh   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_AUTO_REVIVAL_USE_SCROLL   부활서 사용   0   0   0   0   0   Use Resurrection Scroll   Sö dông cuén giÊy phøc ho¹t   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_AUTO_REVIVAL_TOWN   마을에서 부활   0   0   0   0   0   Resurrect in town   VÒ thµnh d­ìng søc   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_AUTO_REVIVAL_STANBY   부활대기   0   0   0   0   0   Wait for resurrection   §îi håi sinh   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_AUTO_RETURN   자동 귀환 설정   0   0   0   0   0   Configure Auto-Return   CÊu h×nh tù ®éng quay trë l¹i   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_AUTO_RETURN_1TIME   1시간 후   0   0   0   0   0   In 1 hour   Trong 1 giê   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_AUTO_RETURN_3TIME   3시간 후   0   0   0   0   0   In 3 hours   Trong 3 giê   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_AUTO_RETURN_5TIME   5시간 후   0   0   0   0   0   In 5 hours   Trong 5 giê   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_AUTO_RETURN_10TIME   10시간 후   0   0   0   0   0   In 10 hours   Trong 10 giê   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_AUTO_RETURN_POTION_EMPTY   HP/MP물약이 10이하가 되면 자동으로 귀환   0   0   0   0   0   Auto - Return when HP/MP potion remain less than 10   Tù ®éng trë vÒ khi sè l­îng b×nh hp/mp nhá h¬n 10   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_AUTO_REPAIR_OPTION   자동 수리 설정   0   0   0   0   0   Configure Auto-Repair   CÊu h×nh tù ®éng söa ch÷a   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_AUTO_REPAIR_USE_HAMMER   수리망치 사용   0   0   0   0   0   Use Repair Hammer   Sö dông bóa s÷a ch÷a   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_AUTO_REPAIR_TOWN   마을로 귀환   0   0   0   0   0   Return to town   Trë vÒ thµnh   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_AUTO_HUNTING_AUTO_PICKUP   자동 픽업   0   0   0   0   0   Auto-Pickup   Tù ®éng nhÆt   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_TITLE   SRO Macro   0   0   0   0   0   SRO Macro   SRO Macro   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_SYSTEM_WHAN_POTION   생기의 정수를 사용합니다.   0   0   0   0   0   Using Energy of Life   Sö dông thñy tinh khÝ   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_SYSTEM_WHAN_POTION_USE   생기의 정수의 환 재생을 사용합니다.   0   0   0   0   0   Using Berserk regeneration of the Energy of Life   Using Berserk regeneration of the Energy of Life   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_SYSTEM_USE_HAMMER   수리망치를 사용합니다.   0   0   0   0   0   Using Repair Hammer   Sö dông bóa s÷a ch÷a   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_SYSTEM_RETURN_TOWN_MACRO_OFF   마을에서는 스킬/사냥Macro가 꺼집니다.   0   0   0   0   0   The skill/hunting macro is disabled in towns.   HÖ thèng ®¸nh qu¸i tù ®éng v« hiÖu trong thµnh.   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_SYSTEM_RETURN_TOWN_HP_POTION_EMPTY   HP물약이 부족하여 귀환서를 사용합니다.   0   0   0   0   0   Insufficient HP Potions.  Using Return Scroll.   Kh«ng ®ñ b×nh m¸u. Sö dông bïa dÞch chuyÓn.   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_SYSTEM_RETURN_TOWN_MP_POTION_EMPTY   MP물약이 부족하여 귀환서를 사용합니다.   0   0   0   0   0   Insufficient MP Potions.  Using Return Scroll.   Kh«ng ®ñ b×nh mana. Sö dông bïa dÞch chuyÓn.   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_SYSTEM_RETURN_TOWN_ITEM_DURA   아이템 내구도가 0이 되어 귀환서를 사용합니다.   0   0   0   0   0   Item durability has reached 0.  Using Return Scroll.   §å bÒn cña ®å vËt vÒ 0. Sö dông bïa dÞch chuyÓn.   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_SYSTEM_RETURN_TOWN_NOT_HAMMER   수리망치가 없어서 귀환서를 사용합니다.   0   0   0   0   0   No Repair Hammer.  Using Return Scroll.   Kh«ng cã bóa söa ch÷a. Sö dông bïa dÞch chuyÓn.   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_SYSTEM_RETURN_TOWN_TIME_OVER   자동 사냥 시간이 종료되어 귀환서를 사용합니다.   0   0   0   0   0   Auto-Hunt time expired.  Using Return Scroll.   §· hÕt thêi gian tù ®éng s¨n qu¸i. Sö dông bïa dÞch chuyÓn.   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_SYSTEM_RETURN_TOWN_NOT_REVIVAL_SCROLL   부활서가 없어 마을로 귀환 합니다.   0   0   0   0   0   No Resurrection Scroll.  Using Return Scroll.   Kh«ng cã giÊy phøc ho¹t. Sö dông bïa dÞch chuyÓn   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_SYSTEM_RETURN_TOWN_DIE   캐릭터가 사망하여 마을에서 부활 합니다.   0   0   0   0   0   Character is dead.  Resurrecting in town.   Nh©n vËt ®· chÕt. VÒ thµnh d­ìng søc.   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_SYSTEM_RETURN_TOWN_ERORR   귀환서를 사용합니다.   0   0   0   0   0   Using Return Scroll.   Sö dông bïa dÞch chuyÓn.   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_SYSTEM_OVERLAP_SKILL   중복될 수 없는 아이템이나 스킬이 이미 사용되고 있습니다. 버프일 경우 같은 계열 스킬을 등록하지 않도록 하세요.   0   0   0   0   0   An item or a skill that can't be duplicated is already in use.  Please be careful not to assign the same class of buff skills.   §å vËt hoÆc kü n¨ng kh«ng thÓ sö dông v× ®· ®­îc sö dông. Chó ý kh«ng thiÕt lËp 2 kü n¨ng gièng nhau.   0   0   0   0   0   0   
1   UIIT_STT_SRO_MACRO_TEST_CODE_1   워프해야할 상황   0   0   0   0   0   When to Teleport   Thêi gian dÞch chuyÓn   0   0   0   0   0   0   
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 Post subject: Re: Joymax has their own bot?
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isnt there something in the action tab like auto attack or something?

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There is a lot more than auto attack in that script...a whole lot more auto-ing going on there.

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dont they have a bot in jsro or one off them other sro versions, after lvl 70?


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joymax used a bot in beta to test things out, i dont know if its the remnants of that?

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isnt there something in the action tab like auto attack or something?

I thought like you at first but when i read more into the code i became confused of what's the purpose of that in pk2.

Auto-hunt, set radius, many options to do if you die and lots, lots more, kinda weird but interesting.

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I'm pretty sure people here on srf said the csro had an official bot years ago idk if it's even still around (csro that is)


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I wouldn't be surprised. That is probably the reason there are more bots than actual players in the game. The game was made to support bots initially which is what makes it easy for people to develop them as such.

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I wouldn't be surprised. That is probably the reason there are more bots than actual players in the game. The game was made to support bots initially which is what makes it easy for people to develop them as such.


+1

And I also wouldn't be surprised if joymax built in these functions with the purpose of benefiting from selling bot programs or bot time rather... It might have been there initially for testing purposes (or not). Or they might have just coded this into the game who knows...either way it seems to provide the framework/platform for botting.....You can never trust shitmax

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I wouldn't be surprised. That is probably the reason there are more bots than actual players in the game. The game was made to support bots initially which is what makes it easy for people to develop them as such.


+1

And I also wouldn't be surprised if joymax built in these functions with the purpose of benefiting from selling bot programs or bot time rather... It might have been there initially for testing purposes (or not). Or they might have just coded this into the game who knows...either way it seems to provide the framework/platform for botting.....You can never trust shitmax


-facepalm-

joymax do not sell bot programs or gold, i cant be asked to explain the reason.

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The idea isn't farfetched...no need to facepalm....I don`t want to get into why it is possible either because I've been back and forth on the topic myself. The only thing I will offer here is that when you add up the cash made from selling gold and renting bot time and multiply that by the number of servers you get into the hundreds of thousands of dollars being leeched off the game...I don`t see joymax allowing that to happen when they make a big fuss if you and me try to do a simple charge-back on our credit cards.....Again you can`t trust shitmax

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-facepalm- again...

joymax bans bots and gold bots, sells their own bot in the item mall and sells gold.

no joymax do no own the bots or gold bots, why fill up a spot if they can just spawn gold?

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I don't see any company releasing a game that would advertise that they will allow botting and allow gold buying as that would probably have a negative effect on their initial success...This has the effect of ruining game content off the bat and might deter players who can't readily buy anything online. (which amounts to a larger portion of the community.

There is already a sizable gap between those who can buy silk and those who cannot. And silk buyers often enjoy the game a little more than those non silk buyers....Adding botting time and gold to the list of silk items would only increase that gap further. It is better for joymax to act under the pretense that this gap is being created illegally and that they are trying to fix it rather than widening that gap themselves.

It was probably not the intent of joymax to create a game where botting is allowed but since botting and gold buying has become so prevalent they found ways to use it to their financial advantage by allowing it under some backdoor agreement. So in other words they might not have created bot programs themselves but they allow these gold/bot selling companies to continue for the aforementioned reason.

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not true... dont csro have a bot in their game.... so they included a bot. and lots of mmorpg's have the ability to buy in game gold... or to sell items that you can purchase with real money.

the backdoor agreement would also be stopped by what csro have done in banning all illegal programs used when starting the game and you can get banned for using a bot that isnt theirs afaik

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Why have a backdoor agreement when they can just spawn gold, doesn't make sense to me.


Joymax doesn't have an agreement with gold selling companies imo but they are doing nothing to stop them too.


Some of my friends are regular customers of gold selling companies and they are pretty sure that there isn't an agreement with the company they are buying from and Joymax.

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Maybe they just use gold bots to fill the server, still doesnt sound right :/, also i would never be surprised if they actually run bots or something, also if joymax sells gold(not under jm name) and doesnt use gold bots it will look weird because everyone will wonder how did this "company" get all of this gold.

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Agree with BuDo... If Joymax really wanted to stop every bot / gold selling company there was, they could do it instantly.. They are making money (shitloads of it, as well) off both of them, so they will always be around.

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Agree with BuDo... If Joymax really wanted to stop every bot / gold selling company there was, they could do it instantly.. They are making money (shitloads of it, as well) off both of them, so they will always be around.


u can think what you want.... but youre still wrong.

if they wanted full servers they could just lower server capacity. it makes no sense at all for joymax to own bots or have some sort of agreement with them in any sense.

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not true... dont csro have a bot in their game.... so they included a bot. and lots of mmorpg's have the ability to buy in game gold... or to sell items that you can purchase with real money.

the backdoor agreement would also be stopped by what csro have done in banning all illegal programs used when starting the game and you can get banned for using a bot that isnt theirs afaik


So what are you saying?...Joymax does offer us or allow us to bot but pretend that they don't want botters? This isn't csro...they never claim that you can use an isro sanction bot...You're not making any sense of situation or offering any logical inferences......


If I am to follow what you've been saying from your postings I would deduce that joymax isn't in agreement with bot companies or gold companies and that they are just truly helpless on the situation....and they allow these things to happen...allow hundreds of thousands of dollars to be leeched off of their creation while they ban you and me over a $20-$30 credit card charge-back which doesn't make sense either..Since when joymax doesn't care about money?

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Agree with BuDo... If Joymax really wanted to stop every bot / gold selling company there was, they could do it instantly.. They are making money (shitloads of it, as well) off both of them, so they will always be around.


u can think what you want.... but youre still wrong.

if they wanted full servers they could just lower server capacity. it makes no sense at all for joymax to own bots or have some sort of agreement with them in any sense.


They don't have to own them but they can indeed have a backdoor agreement with them....The logical reasoning behind this could be that rather than fighting against gold bot companies who will always find ways to leech money from joymax's customers why not let them be as long as joymax gets a cut. That does make sense. Joymax is all about making money..like any other corporation....Use your brain..they would not allow gold bot companies to make tons of money from their creation and they stand there and do nothing....That is almost as bad as allowing thieves into your store and watch them sell what they stole from you to the customers that walked into your store....

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BuDo wrote:
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Agree with BuDo... If Joymax really wanted to stop every bot / gold selling company there was, they could do it instantly.. They are making money (shitloads of it, as well) off both of them, so they will always be around.


u can think what you want.... but youre still wrong.

if they wanted full servers they could just lower server capacity. it makes no sense at all for joymax to own bots or have some sort of agreement with them in any sense.


They don't have to own them but they can indeed have a backdoor agreement with them....The logical reasoning behind this could be that rather than fighting against gold bot companies who will always find ways to leech money from joymax's customers why not let them be as long as joymax gets a cut. That does make sense. Joymax is all about making money..like any other corporation....Use your brain..they would not allow gold bot companies to make tons of money from their creation and they stand there and do nothing....That is almost as bad as allowing thieves into your store and watch them sell what they stole from you to the customers that walked into your store....


Couldn't have said it any better. Joymax finally realised that fighting against the bots was a huge waste of time because there are people out there who are willing to spend weeks on end finding how they can get past the last 'patch' Joymax made. I bet it is AMAZING profit for them.. What good company denies an almost flawless way of making money?

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the fact they are giving some if it away...

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Yes infact Joymax did create there own IG bot, i belive it was either J/k/c sro which actually sold there own bot to there players i cant remember which, when i was working on Atomix in the early days i discovered this also and its quite obviously a bot. Why? Because in some countrys they try and stop there players playing for long periods of time and instead of players loosing intrest and limiting there time they offer an alternative method where there players can physicaly keep playing and still not be at there computers for large amounts of time. The iSRO community does not accept the botting like other versions see it as a natural thing which is evident in many other games, so i imajine thats why iSRO never offered it to there players.

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Yes infact Joymax did create there own IG bot, i belive it was either J/k/c sro which actually sold there own bot to there players i cant remember which, when i was working on Atomix in the early days i discovered this also and its quite obviously a bot. Why? Because in some countrys they try and stop there players playing for long periods of time and instead of players loosing intrest and limiting there time they offer an alternative method where there players can physicaly keep playing and still not be at there computers for large amounts of time. The iSRO community does not accept the botting like other versions see it as a natural thing which is evident in many other games, so i imajine thats why iSRO never offered it to there players.

just my 2 cents.


that was vsro, and it was because the law prohibited play of video games past 5 hours a day so this recharge system was actually stolen from them.

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The iSRO community does not accept the botting like other versions see it as a natural thing which is evident in many other games

Really. How come I see the majority of the iSRO community wants to bot more than ever.

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The iSRO community does not accept the botting like other versions see it as a natural thing which is evident in many other games

Really. How come I see the majority of the iSRO community wants to bot more than ever.



isro community = bots unfortunaly..... i can remember when it was the other way around :soosad:

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Yes infact Joymax did create there own IG bot, i belive it was either J/k/c sro which actually sold there own bot to there players i cant remember which, when i was working on Atomix in the early days i discovered this also and its quite obviously a bot. Why? Because in some countrys they try and stop there players playing for long periods of time and instead of players loosing intrest and limiting there time they offer an alternative method where there players can physicaly keep playing and still not be at there computers for large amounts of time. The iSRO community does not accept the botting like other versions see it as a natural thing which is evident in many other games, so i imajine thats why iSRO never offered it to there players.

just my 2 cents.


That's interesting....But I still believe that allowing it can do more harm than good. It has great potential to ruin game content experience as well as diminishing the social aspect of the game which is very important....But to each his own...draw your own conclusion and live by it

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