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 Post subject: An interesting fact
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:43 pm 
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So i was just plvling some guildies earlier at the Bunwang, was out of MP and went back to town.
Decided to try bone soldier and niya guards in taklamakan since i was getting bored of the cave and i never really spent time in taklamakan.

At the same i was still in the same shared party i was plvling with, and went solo the taklamakan, the other 2 party members were still in town

I killed a niya guard (lvl73) and i got 7.3k exp, i was like hmm not bad, since i didn't need all that many hits on it.

So then i tried and see if i could get more exp by joining a random distr party from the party match.

To my surprise to exp went down from 7.3k exp to somewhere around 6k :?

I tried going back to the same shared party and killed another niya guard and i got another 7.3k exp, and about 6.3k exp from a bone soldier (lvl71), while in a distr party i got about 5.3k exp from a bone soldier.
I don't have any proof since i'm already back in town right now lol, but i KNOW what i saw

I was really starting to get motivated seeing those tons of exp, and i'm not using any tickets.

The only problem is, in a share party, if you attack a mob surrounding mobs will go aggro on your as well. And you don't always want that if you're fighting mobs 7/9 lvls higher lol.

I guess you get more exp that way, only if the mobs are much higher lvl


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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
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[SW]Hellraider wrote:
The only problem is, in a share party, if you attack a mob surrounding mobs will go aggro on your as well. And you don't always want that if you're fighting mobs 7/9 lvls higher lol.



Bro, the thing with exp share parties is that after you kill the mobs already spawned, PARTY mobs will spawn in response to exp share parties. It's not about surrounding mobs goin aggro, its probably a champion, you used AOE, or they are naturally aggro (bone soldiers are aggro). So if you're going solo or exp dist/share the "aggressiveness" of the mobs is the same.

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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
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I dont agree about the agro part.

Just yesterday I went Penons in a share party and automatically Penon which are passive mobs came to me.normal penons,so no champ or anything.While no party-mate was close.


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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:13 pm 
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So explain to me when i'm plvling some lowlvler's at a passive mob (small bunwhangs and normal sonars for example) that none of them turned "aggro" and atked my players?


Unless they are a party mob/champ/giant/ (anything cept a normal mob), i've seen it aggro, but never a normal mob.

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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:14 pm 
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i've definitely been aggroed by normal mobs while in exp share pt

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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
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[SD]Isidro wrote:
[SW]Hellraider wrote:
The only problem is, in a share party, if you attack a mob surrounding mobs will go aggro on your as well. And you don't always want that if you're fighting mobs 7/9 lvls higher lol.



Bro, the thing with exp share parties is that after you kill the mobs already spawned, PARTY mobs will spawn in response to exp share parties. It's not about surrounding mobs goin aggro, its probably a champion, you used AOE, or they are naturally aggro (bone soldiers are aggro). So if you're going solo or exp dist/share the "aggressiveness" of the mobs is the same.


Party mobs will NOT spawn if all of the other party members are somewhere else. And i do know what i saw, i didn't use any area attacks, and i was still also attracting niya guards which are passive. this ONLY happens in a shared party, no matter where you and your party members are


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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
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If what your all saying is true, then I guess I stand corrected. Nice to learn that passive mobs become aggro during exp share pts

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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
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those mobs only turn aggressive when you attack a mob so if you walk to one without attacking they won't get aggressive.


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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
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Also one intresting fact that I noticed while pwlevling my self (I have 2pc) I pwlevl at yetis and when I kill party Yeti my other character 48 lvl get aroung 9500 exp and when I kill party Devil Yeti my character get 18 000 exp :?
Whats up with that, that is only 1 lvl diference
Maybe because they aggro

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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
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<Edit> nvm just forget it :P


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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
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This is how Avalon leveled so fast in Venus. We stayed at mobs 11 levels higher till we got to Generals. The XP is really fast and if you have a ticket on top of it, we got at least a level per day until the 6X levels or so.

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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
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[SD]Isidro wrote:
If what your all saying is true, then I guess I stand corrected. Nice to learn that passive mobs become aggro during exp share pts


They dont become directly aggro, what happens in auto share partys is:

You attack a mob, if there is a mob near that mob he will atack you too

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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
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some of the non-attack euro skills aggro mobs too, so if your healing or barding or something than that might cause them to attack you

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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
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Do I understand this right? I'm lvl 53, my wife is 55. So I could join an auto share party with her, she stalls in town, I go solo grind on mobs that are like 7 levels higher than me, and rack up the exp by myself?

If I read correctly, the original poster said he was soloing in takla with auto-share members standing in town.

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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
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X4rd4S wrote:
Also one intresting fact that I noticed while pwlevling my self (I have 2pc) I pwlevl at yetis and when I kill party Yeti my other character 48 lvl get aroung 9500 exp and when I kill party Devil Yeti my character get 18 000 exp :?
Whats up with that, that is only 1 lvl diference
Maybe because they aggro


It has to do with level difference an color difference.

On ongs when I was getting pleveled (I got pleveled from 22-28 in like 3 hrs) on ongs, blood ongs gave like 1.4k xp, whislt normal ongs gave 3k xp. It was because blood ongs where orange, and ongs were red.
I'm assuming the yeti thing has to do with your pleveling character's level, because at level 48, both yetis and devil yetis are red.


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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
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nightbloom wrote:
This is how Avalon leveled so fast in Venus. We stayed at mobs 11 levels higher till we got to Generals. The XP is really fast and if you have a ticket on top of it, we got at least a level per day until the 6X levels or so.


Until 6X? Was getting 120%/3 hrs at lvl 67-72...

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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
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thats how i got to 64 in 2 months handgrinding NOT ASKING FOR POWERLEVELING omg
spending only 4 5 hours a day

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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
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Every mob is aggro for Warriors -_-

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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
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I dont agree about the agro part.

Just yesterday I went Penons in a share party and automatically Penon which are passive mobs came to me.normal penons,so no champ or anything.While no party-mate was close.


being in a share party changes the aggro behavior of creatures around you, if you attack one first the others near the one you attack will attack you too, also apon killing one the near by ones also come to you, and some skills that wouldn't normally attract aggro now does like recoverydivision you can just be standing there sometimes and they'll attack you.

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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
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[SW]Hellraider wrote:
At the same i was still in the same shared party i was plvling with, and went solo the taklamakan, the other 2 party members were still in town

I killed a niya guard (lvl73) and i got 7.3k exp, i was like hmm not bad, since i didn't need all that many hits on it.

So then i tried and see if i could get more exp by joining a random distr party from the party match.

To my surprise to exp went down from 7.3k exp to somewhere around 6k :?

That's interesting indeed. Was that a full distribution party you were in? 4/4?

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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
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At the same i was still in the same shared party i was plvling with, and went solo the taklamakan, the other 2 party members were still in town

I killed a niya guard (lvl73) and i got 7.3k exp, i was like hmm not bad, since i didn't need all that many hits on it.

So then i tried and see if i could get more exp by joining a random distr party from the party match.

To my surprise to exp went down from 7.3k exp to somewhere around 6k :?

That's interesting indeed. Was that a full distribution party you were in? 4/4?


Well no, it was 2/4, but the difference between that and 4/4 isnt that much, and also i made a mistake, i didn't get 7.3k exp but 7.6k exp every mob, i doubt the difference between 2/4 and 4/4 distr would mean the difference between 6k and 7.6

By the way, i have a theory about this after trying some stuff out. I killed a niya sniper (lvl74) and got 7.9k exp, but killing a niya hunter (lvl76) and i got 7.3k exp.
So i think the maximum amount of exp you can get, benefiting from a shared party is 10 or 11 lvls higher then yourself, since there is no lvl75 mob i can't know if its 10 or 11, but i can find out when im lvl65


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 Post subject: Re: An interesting fact
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if the average level of the party is 11levels below the mob you are killing there seem to be a boost in exp/sp


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