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ryuko2121
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Post subject: Reconfirmation on pure INT Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 12:57 am |
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Pure int does the most damage right???
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EwwBabel
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 12:58 am |
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also weak as shit and sucks at pvp unless you have godly gear.
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ryuko2121
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Post subject: ok Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:01 am |
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So a hybrid of str and int is the best at PVP?
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Hostage
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Post subject: Re: ok Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:02 am |
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ryuko2121 wrote: So a hybrid of str and int is the best at PVP?
well from reading ur other thread ur lookin for str so just go pure int cus there isnt a single build that will give u everything cus even hybrids have there downfall ( like being dreadfully weak in the beginning)
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Rainigul
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Post subject: Re: ok Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:04 am |
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Hostage wrote: ryuko2121 wrote: So a hybrid of str and int is the best at PVP? well from reading ur other thread ur lookin for str so just go pure int cus there isnt a single build that will give u everything cus even hybrids have there downfall ( like being dreadfully weak in the beginning)
Actually they are the strongest until level 41, then they su ck balls.
Hybrids are only good after level 72.
I imagine they'll be bad at level 100 or something.
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EwwBabel
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Post subject: Re: ok Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:04 am |
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Hostage wrote: ryuko2121 wrote: So a hybrid of str and int is the best at PVP? well from reading ur other thread ur lookin for str so just go pure int cus there isnt a single build that will give u everything cus even hybrids have there downfall ( like being dreadfully weak in the beginning)
my hybrid was just as strong any other build...full int to lvl 30 and 2:1 from then on
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Vortexx
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:10 am |
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EwwBabel wrote: also weak as shit and sucks at pvp unless you have godly gear.
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Hostage
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Post subject: Re: ok Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:11 am |
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EwwBabel wrote: Hostage wrote: ryuko2121 wrote: So a hybrid of str and int is the best at PVP? well from reading ur other thread ur lookin for str so just go pure int cus there isnt a single build that will give u everything cus even hybrids have there downfall ( like being dreadfully weak in the beginning) my hybrid was just as strong any other build...full int to lvl 30 and 2:1 from then on
well maby if u know what ur doin u can make it work but this kid looks like hes havin trouble with pure builds so i only said it for his own good
u went 2:1 after 30 i just stuk to 2:1 int based from the start
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shadowman20875
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:12 am |
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1337BLADER
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:14 am |
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light or fire
full str bladers PWN ALL
cant wait for lvl 54
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Rainigul
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:16 am |
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1337BLADER wrote: light or fire full str bladers PWN ALL cant wait for lvl 54
Why 54? Petal dance?
But yeah, pure str blade is best 1v1er
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1337BLADER
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:18 am |
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Rainigul wrote: 1337BLADER wrote: light or fire full str bladers PWN ALL cant wait for lvl 54 Why 54? Petal dance? But yeah, pure str blade is best 1v1er
yea the second book
Petal dance
i can go murder ppl and grind it off very fast

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shadowman20875
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:19 am |
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Rainigul wrote: 1337BLADER wrote: light or fire full str bladers PWN ALL cant wait for lvl 54 Why 54? Petal dance? But yeah, pure str blade is best 1v1er
pff int hybrids, but lets not get into a "this build is better" contest
-cough full str nukers cough- 
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ryuko2121
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:21 am |
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How is pure STR blader the best at PvP?
Does it do the most damage or sumfin?
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Rainigul
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:25 am |
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ryuko2121 wrote: How is pure STR blader the best at PvP? Does it do the most damage or sumfin?
No, but you see, this is the way it works:
PvP is based on luck, which is why str is better than int:
Str has crits
Int has nothing.
Now glaive has crits,
But blade has crits AND block.
Blade wins.
Sword also has block, but doesn't have crit and crit is worth more it seems.
(Also, the slower you grind, the better you are in pvp)
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HyorunmarouZ
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:25 am |
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shadowman20875 wrote: -cough full str nukers cough- 
I've heard that full int tankers might be able to beat the allmighty full str nuker 
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Devotia
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:34 am |
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ryuko2121 wrote: How is pure STR blader the best at PvP? Does it do the most damage or sumfin?
Least damage, actually. but they have the most hp and a shield to increase survivability. That said, without a godly endgame blade, you're not going to be able to kill a whole mess of people.
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1337BLADER
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:45 am |
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Rainigul wrote: ryuko2121 wrote: How is pure STR blader the best at PvP? Does it do the most damage or sumfin? No, but you see, this is the way it works: PvP is based on luck, which is why str is better than int: Str has crits Int has nothing. Now glaive has crits, But blade has crits AND block. Blade wins. Sword also has block, but doesn't have crit and crit is worth more it seems. (Also, the slower you grind, the better you are in pvp)
what u wanna say is
get a pure str blader
and light imbue
FTW
im lvl 33 1 lvl gap
i wanna sp farm
woot
only 8 more lvls
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Nodame
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:52 am |
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althought bladers are crazy tankers...
they do take a long time to level up unfortunately. which does pay off at the end when u're able to really tank everything lol
that's why i think a lot of full str bladers start off as glaivers.. then they either add/switch their skills to bladers.
i'm a full str blader on nodame (only lvl 28 so far) and it's kinda a shame they don't have aoe attacks until their 4x i think.. (2nd kd book?)
but yes i do survive when i get mobbed like hell.. just really hard to get uniques and get ksed regularly on giants =\
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1337BLADER
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:57 am |
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Nodame wrote: althought bladers are crazy tankers...
they do take a long time to level up unfortunately. which does pay off at the end when u're able to really tank everything lol
that's why i think a lot of full str bladers start off as glaivers.. then they either add/switch their skills to bladers.
i'm a full str blader on nodame (only lvl 28 so far) and it's kinda a shame they don't have aoe attacks until their 4x i think.. (2nd kd book?)
but yes i do survive when i get mobbed like hell.. just really hard to get uniques and get ksed regularly on giants =\
im lvl 33
i sp farmed 1 lvl gap......
yea its a pain in the ass to lvl i have to prey my shield
blocks most of the atks
btw my BR of the shield is 17
and blade is +3
woot im good
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Black_Mamba
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Post subject: Re: Reconfirmation on pure INT Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:00 am |
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ryuko2121 wrote: Pure int does the most damage right???
The more int you have the more dmg you'll do as well as take the most dmg yourself, str's are the opposite.
If you can get nice skills and some really nice gear you can still tank big groups of orange monsters without dieing doing really nice dmg's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teFf3SuMdEY
This clip's a good example, lots of tanking especially at 2:00, that characters often mistaken for a hybrid cuz of it's tanking but it's totally pure int.
Just depends what you like to do, it's not impossible to beat ppl 1 on 1 it's just harder and needs more skill rather than just masking 3 keys, phantoms and walls will help you a lot in pvp. Great build for jobbing with others, you deal the big damages while others are tanking.
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shadowman20875
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:06 am |
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Rainigul wrote: ryuko2121 wrote: How is pure STR blader the best at PvP? Does it do the most damage or sumfin? No, but you see, this is the way it works: PvP is based on luck, which is why str is better than int: Str has crits Int has nothing. Now glaive has crits, But blade has crits AND block. Blade wins. Sword also has block, but doesn't have crit and crit is worth more it seems. (Also, the slower you grind, the better you are in pvp)
heres how it works, blader v int hybrid
s/s goes castle/wall shield and bladers cant do sh*t, s/s switches to spear to nuke and uses fire/ice wall and bladers do even less, all the while the nukers is blasting u w/ nukes, KD's, KB's, STUNS
s/s/s hybrid wins
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:07 am |
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1337BLADER wrote: Nodame wrote: althought bladers are crazy tankers...
they do take a long time to level up unfortunately. which does pay off at the end when u're able to really tank everything lol
that's why i think a lot of full str bladers start off as glaivers.. then they either add/switch their skills to bladers.
i'm a full str blader on nodame (only lvl 28 so far) and it's kinda a shame they don't have aoe attacks until their 4x i think.. (2nd kd book?)
but yes i do survive when i get mobbed like hell.. just really hard to get uniques and get ksed regularly on giants =\ im lvl 33 i sp farmed 1 lvl gap...... yea its a pain in the ass to lvl i have to prey my shield blocks most of the atks btw my BR of the shield is 17 and blade is +3 woot im good
OMG +3 O_o your so leet
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:15 am |
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Nice video Black Mamba.
And  to the people who say crits are nothing with pure ints. Yes, nukes have no crits......but no, a nuker's weapon still has a crit, which the nuker should still be using....
The whole thing is - you have to know how to use your build well, which I believe Im still working on.
If you're a pure int JUST nuking, you're doing it wrong and will die. Maybe you shoot off a nuke in the start of a 1 vs 1 but afer that it's weapon till (depending on your wep) you get a kd and stab them, after you done stabing you nuke again then go back to weapon.
Yes, pure ints do the most damage and rule the world. 
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 5:26 am |
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Ashikiheyun wrote: Nice video Black Mamba. And  to the people who say crits are nothing with pure ints. Yes, nukes have no crits......but no, a nuker's weapon still has a crit, which the nuker should still be using.... The whole thing is - you have to know how to use your build well, which I believe Im still working on. If you're a pure int JUST nuking, you're doing it wrong and will die. Maybe you shoot off a nuke in the start of a 1 vs 1 but afer that it's weapon till (depending on your wep) you get a kd and stab them, after you done stabing you nuke again then go back to weapon. Yes, pure ints do the most damage and rule the world. 
thats wat most people forget that tho pure ints crit on their weapon is useless it still helps alittle. pure int is way superior to hybrid int especially at lvl 80.
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Post subject: Re: ok Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 9:12 am |
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Rainigul wrote: Actually they are the strongest until level 41, then they su ck balls.
Hybrids are only good after level 72. I imagine they'll be bad at level 100 or something.
So true... from lvl 30 to ~38 my 2:1 int hybrid would pwn any pure build my lvl or a 1 or 2 lvls above, given if I played it right and that they didn't have 1337 gear. But now at lvl 42, I can barely kill anyone my lvl  ... unless they were some sort of str hybrid  .
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:17 am |
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Int heavy hybrid spears become good at about 60ish (spear passive + sss and then mars at 63) and stay strong til atleast 80.
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