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 Post subject: Imbue choice
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:43 pm 
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Hey guys! I'm a hybrid spear with ~85% balance planning on 80fire, 80 light, 80 weap, 60 cold and I'm wondering if I should use the fire or light imbue. I dont want to get them both because of the SP cost, but I've heard light is better for int players because it can lower their parry ratio, but fire force does DoT. Which would be more useful for my build?

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 Post subject: Re: Imbue choice
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:25 pm 
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ontaria wrote:
Hey guys! I'm a hybrid spear with ~85% balance planning on 80fire, 80 light, 80 weap, 60 cold and I'm wondering if I should use the fire or light imbue. I dont want to get them both because of the SP cost, but I've heard light is better for int players because it can lower their parry ratio, but fire force does DoT. Which would be more useful for my build?


use fire imbue because the light parry reduce is usually potted off, and the fire without DoT does consistently higher dmg than light.

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Yea go with fire.

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 Post subject: Re: Imbue choice
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Barotix wrote:
ontaria wrote:
Hey guys! I'm a hybrid spear with ~85% balance planning on 80fire, 80 light, 80 weap, 60 cold and I'm wondering if I should use the fire or light imbue. I dont want to get them both because of the SP cost, but I've heard light is better for int players because it can lower their parry ratio, but fire force does DoT. Which would be more useful for my build?


use fire imbue because the light parry reduce is usually potted off, and the fire without DoT does consistently higher dmg than light.


fires DoT dmg is not as much as parry reduce. lightning dmg range is much larger than fire and the top dmg is close to fire. if opponents parry is reduced, ur chances of hitting high are increased. so i think over time light is better.

besides at 90 cap. a hybrid spear should probably sacrafice fire for the extra physical def and snowshield. hte ice nukes rnt bad for grinding neitehr

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Cant the fire nuke do almost twice as much as the ice nuke? Plus, if you take ice to 90 for the snow shield, you'll have to use more physical attacks in PvP and PvE and I dont want to become a glavier :P

I'm farming a lot of SP for this char and I dont want her to not even be able to PvP, but I also want her to deal quite a bit of damage. Plus I love the nukes (I'd prefer them over the weapon skills). I'm hoping that with fire at 90 I will be able to deal great damage (with nukes) while still staying alive.

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ontaria wrote:
Cant the fire nuke do almost twice as much as the ice nuke? Plus, if you take ice to 90 for the snow shield, you'll have to use more physical attacks in PvP and PvE and I dont want to become a glavier :P

I'm farming a lot of SP for this char and I dont want her to not even be able to PvP, but I also want her to deal quite a bit of damage. Plus I love the nukes (I'd prefer them over the weapon skills). I'm hoping that with fire at 90 I will be able to deal great damage (with nukes) while still staying alive.


great. fire nukes dont do twice teh dmg. i hav no idea wat u mean by use more physical attacks in PvP and PvE.

since ur a hybrid u will always use spear for more dmg.
fire doesnt help u stay alive, ice does.

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ontaria wrote:
Cant the fire nuke do almost twice as much as the ice nuke? Plus, if you take ice to 90 for the snow shield, you'll have to use more physical attacks in PvP and PvE and I dont want to become a glavier :P

I'm farming a lot of SP for this char and I dont want her to not even be able to PvP, but I also want her to deal quite a bit of damage. Plus I love the nukes (I'd prefer them over the weapon skills). I'm hoping that with fire at 90 I will be able to deal great damage (with nukes) while still staying alive.

FACTS
  1. Ice Keeps you Alive
  2. Because Light Parry Reduce will be potted off promptly Fire does consistently higher dmg
  3. at this cap the Fire Nukes still outdmg the Light Nukes
POINTS
  1. With Light Imbue your dmg will be all over the charts for example:
    1. 8k
    2. 10k
    3. 6k
    4. 14k
    5. 9k
    6. 6k
    7. 16k
  2. the point is with Light imbue you nvr know what you will get, the chances of getting the same amount of dmg consistently is unlikely, and besides you must understand nukers are meant to be support characters let the pure strs tank all the dmg they want.
  3. now with Fire imbue your dmg will be fairly consistent ranging at the current cap between 14k dmg and 16k dmg like so:
    1. 14k
    2. 15k
    3. 13k
    4. 16k
    5. 13k
    6. 15k
    7. 16k
  4. all information is in terms of PvE

LESSON
  1. So because of Parry reduce it is advised to use light in PvE
  2. Because of universal pills it is advised to use Fire in PvP [if you're looking for pure dmg]
  3. If you want to tank and be int then go S/S light ice
  4. If you're looking for pure dmg go 7:1 hybrid light fire spear

so b4 you take my advice or devilti's advice i have 1 question... what are you looking for? DMG or TANK
Remember
  1. light/Ice = PvE/Tank/Speed
  2. Fire/Light = PvP/DmG/Speed
  3. Fire/Ice = PvP/Dmg/Tank
  4. Universal pills render the Parry reduce of light useless in PvP
  5. Universal pills render the Fire DoT useless in PvP
  6. Fire imbue without parry reduce does more dmg than light, therefore: Use Fire

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:32 am 
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Alright, thank you for that long post! I'm really not looking to tank, if I wanted to do that I'd take up a glavie or blade. So I guess that leaves a pure damage build. I loved my wizard character, but I missed the weapon skills. I guess that's the reason I favor damage over defense, I like to use different tactics to weasel my way in, pop in a few nukes, and get out as fast as possible ^^

I guess I will go with fire/light then! Thank you so much!

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