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 Post subject: XLarge Pots
PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:32 pm 
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When did you start using XLarge pots when grinding? Or do you still use large at lvl 80? And only XLarge for PvPing/Jobbing.

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 Post subject: Re: XLarge Pots
PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:37 pm 
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As a pure str I started using XL HP pots at level 75 or 76, when I started killing mages and shamans. XL MP would be a waste, large is enough.

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 Post subject: Re: XLarge Pots
PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:00 pm 
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Well since I'm euro I started to waste XL pots ASAP ... about lv.60 ... and MP pots are always and will be Large for full str ... it fills like 80% of my mp ...

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 Post subject: Re: XLarge Pots
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I'm 64 fighting niya guards/bone soldiers/snipers/hunters so im with XL in case i get a crit, or facing a pt mob so i can refill quickly, i don't really use a lot out there so it's ok, just to make sure i don't die


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 Post subject: Re: XLarge Pots
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well, this is embarrasing I guess...

Level 35 is when I started using next to largest Health and Largest Mana (Yes, the ones you get in Hotan).

I grind solo first off. Whether that makes a difference, I have no idea, The other reasons are:

Why the XL Mana: I seem to cast too much, too fast so need the XL mana in order to stay continuous, lag alone is a killer for me, I do not need to be unable to cast a spell because my mana is used up and pot is still waiting to be used.

Health because by the time I am able to reuse a health pot again, I have been hit considerably, AND the larger overfills my health but, since I'm taking hits as its healing, it covers that damage too.

While doing all this, I also use the VIGOR pots faithfully. They are my emergency pots when something goes unexpected, such as lag that puts me near death, or I'm just concerned of getting a 2k Crit hit and only have 1700 health and the pot is "recharging".

THAT said, I wish you could make VIGORS! If you can, tell me how! LOL


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 Post subject: Re: XLarge Pots
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:17 am 
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avenqerz wrote:
well, this is embarrasing I guess...

Level 35 is when I started using next to largest Health and Largest Mana (Yes, the ones you get in Hotan).

I grind solo first off. Whether that makes a difference, I have no idea, The other reasons are:

Why the XL Mana: I seem to cast too much, too fast so need the XL mana in order to stay continuous, lag alone is a killer for me, I do not need to be unable to cast a spell because my mana is used up and pot is still waiting to be used.

Health because by the time I am able to reuse a health pot again, I have been hit considerably, AND the larger overfills my health but, since I'm taking hits as its healing, it covers that damage too.

While doing all this, I also use the VIGOR pots faithfully. They are my emergency pots when something goes unexpected, such as lag that puts me near death, or I'm just concerned of getting a 2k Crit hit and only have 1700 health and the pot is "recharging".

THAT said, I wish you could make VIGORS! If you can, tell me how! LOL

you are doing something wrong.
try your own level mobs.
fix your gear (blues and at least have +3 gear)
get a better weapon (kill the mobs before they hit you)

using those pots at that level wastes a lot of your gold and you sound like your one of those players who think the exp per kill is more important than the exp in a certain time.

large hp pots and xxl mp


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 Post subject: Re: XLarge Pots
PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:24 pm 
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borat2 wrote:
you are doing something wrong.
try your own level mobs.
fix your gear (blues and at least have +3 gear)
get a better weapon (kill the mobs before they hit you)

using those pots at that level wastes a lot of your gold and you sound like your one of those players who think the exp per kill is more important than the exp in a certain time.

large hp pots and xxl mp


Most gear has at least +2 or +3 Str as a "Blue"
Almost all gear is +3 (If not, then +2)
Gap for getting some SP is only at 2 and monsters are only 1-4 levels higher than my level of clothing.

So... level 36 clothing for level 37-40 creatures.

Weapon is level 38 and kills in 1 shot, 2 shot if champ.

I dont know what else to do...

But grinding in level 36 or less seems like a waste.

But I'll take some advise...


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 Post subject: Re: XLarge Pots
PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:29 pm 
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Avenqerz...what is your build? Euro ints need vigors to survive...try to buy them from stalls (if you can afford xl/large all the time...that wouldnt be a problem :P )

<-- not been in de xl range yet so no answer for that =]

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 Post subject: Re: XLarge Pots
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pure str glavie i never used XL pots. never bought em never saw the need.

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 Post subject: Re: XLarge Pots
PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:31 pm 
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At 42 on my wizard I started using XL MP pots (they recovered about 50% of my mp)

HP i could still use mediums lol...

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 Post subject: Re: XLarge Pots
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If you fight in parties.

You're going to need to use Hp Large at around 35 for tanks

Mp large for ints at around 4x unless you have a bard around you 24/7

I started using Hp XL on my tank at level 42 because I was tanking penons.

MP XL is necessary for most euro ints that party starting 60+, the nukes become extremely costly, if you're a cleric Mp XL should be used from second you can afford them, it's just safer that way.

However, I know some euro party-ers at Generals that rely 100% on bard and cleric and carry 1 stack of each pot, large at that.


If you fight solo, on my chinese glaiver and blader i didnt start using HP XL till around 64+ and even then it wasn't really necessary.

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 Post subject: Re: XLarge Pots
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:57 pm 
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GodsAngel wrote:
If you fight in parties.

You're going to need to use Hp Large at around 35 for tanks

Mp large for ints at around 4x unless you have a bard around you 24/7

I started using Hp XL on my tank at level 42 because I was tanking penons.

MP XL is necessary for most euro ints that party starting 60+, the nukes become extremely costly, if you're a cleric Mp XL should be used from second you can afford them, it's just safer that way.

However, I know some euro party-ers at Generals that rely 100% on bard and cleric and carry 1 stack of each pot, large at that.


If you fight solo, on my chinese glaiver and blader i didnt start using HP XL till around 64+ and even then it wasn't really necessary.


So basically, euro's are pot hogs?


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 Post subject: Re: XLarge Pots
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:55 pm 
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at lvl 64 i used xlarge for jobbing and large for mobs

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 Post subject: Re: XLarge Pots
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avenqerz wrote:

So basically, euro's are pot hogs?


nah, on my chinese char I used to have to bring around 250 HP XL and 700 MP large or so every time I went grinding..

on my euro rouge / cleric I only need 50 hp xl and around 300 mp and it lasts just as long

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 Post subject: Re: XLarge Pots
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Super8 wrote:
avenqerz wrote:

So basically, euro's are pot hogs?


nah, on my chinese char I used to have to bring around 250 HP XL and 700 MP large or so every time I went grinding..

on my euro rouge / cleric I only need 50 hp xl and around 300 mp and it lasts just as long

GodsAngel is talking about 1hand/2hand/dual axe (tank), not a rogue. it easy for you if you're range with xbow, killing the mob before it comes to hit you.
Like he said, we started to grind at penons @ lvl 42-43 (8men pt all the way up), plus, you lure pt mobs, not 1-2, sometimes you lure 10 pt mobs, depends on your party potential.
And for MP XL ask some hi lvl wizard, even with a bard behind he's sometimes out of MP.

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 Post subject: Re: XLarge Pots
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:02 pm 
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avenqerz wrote:
GodsAngel wrote:
If you fight in parties.

You're going to need to use Hp Large at around 35 for tanks

Mp large for ints at around 4x unless you have a bard around you 24/7

I started using Hp XL on my tank at level 42 because I was tanking penons.

MP XL is necessary for most euro ints that party starting 60+, the nukes become extremely costly, if you're a cleric Mp XL should be used from second you can afford them, it's just safer that way.

However, I know some euro party-ers at Generals that rely 100% on bard and cleric and carry 1 stack of each pot, large at that.


If you fight solo, on my chinese glaiver and blader i didnt start using HP XL till around 64+ and even then it wasn't really necessary.


So basically, euro's are pot hogs?


not necessarily, those pots are for emergencies, usually we have a cleric and bard. sometimes I go back to town and i see i haven't used a single pot, other times I come back wondering why I didn't bring enough.

in an emergency, we have that 15 second pot delay so, the bigger the better. and euro int skills require a bard definitely, they are mana hogs.

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