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 Post subject: Nyu getting banned for botting?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:37 pm 
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Emm not to flame anyone but Nyu is legit the char got plvl all time so i cant see how someone can be a botter while you are getting plvled by someone.
And besides from that She never said she botted, only said she got Powerleveld by a bot... aSo i should really reconsider the ban again because she didnt broke any of the the rules...

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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
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Ive never seen her confess here about bot..

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I known her for 1 year now. She never botted. She got power power leveled by her friends but thats it.


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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:15 pm 
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She admitted botting in vent...

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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
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She botted on banya yes, but technicly he dont play that char anymore since it was hackd therefore she made a new char wich is powerlvld

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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:20 pm 
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What are you trying to say?

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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
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I donno man, but as far as I know...she gave up her char when it got hacked...and the other guy was botting it...but I never seen her bot!


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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:24 pm 
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Listen, Nyu admitted that she botted in vent.. PM Dom if you need proof.

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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
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Botting and Cheating
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Posts and statements supporting botting or cheating will be removed. Users posting arguments supporting botting or cheating will have their posting privileges removed at moderator discretion.
Talk openly about, admit to, or suggest botting in a thread.

The rules says NOTHING about admitting on a vent server...

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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
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Master_Mind wrote:
Botting and Cheating
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Posts and statements supporting botting or cheating will be removed. Users posting arguments supporting botting or cheating will have their posting privileges removed at moderator discretion.
Talk openly about, admit to, or suggest botting in a thread.

The rules says NOTHING about admitting on a vent server...

Yeah i agree with Master, if your not going to follow your own rules why have em? so mods/admins can break them?


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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:10 am 
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Juicy wrote:
Master_Mind wrote:
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Posts and statements supporting botting or cheating will be removed. Users posting arguments supporting botting or cheating will have their posting privileges removed at moderator discretion.
Talk openly about, admit to, or suggest botting in a thread.

The rules says NOTHING about admitting on a vent server...

Yeah i agree with Master, if your not going to follow your own rules why have em? so mods/admins can break them?

Yea i have to agree with this, in rules there's nothing about admitting on a vent server, beside who can proof it? anyone can proof was her in vent or what she said? I dont know her, dont know her voice so even I was in vent and i wasnt, i couldnt proof it. I can understand that mods dont allow rome section as a subforum where we can talk of everything but sometimes i disagree with all this strictness, if you have to follow strictly rules she has to be unbanned even though everyone on rome knows that but she still didnt admit that in a post. I also disagree with the ban for unrespect mods, does it mean mods are someone higher or more important than users? The ban should be for unrespect people of forum not only mods. Also why that thread about Instict got deleted istead of getting locked? I dont get it

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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
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And some MOD deleted a whole thread on 4 pages! just after Nyu posted in it.
Is that not illegal then im not sure what is? :?

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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
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Well, getting power lvled by a bot = botting.. so no need for vent to prove it in my opinion... eh, did you say te Instinct 4 pages topic was deleted??? omg, my topic :cry: :cry: I really wanna know wot she said there :(

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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:18 am 
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I think the point is, if you disagree with a mod, you disagree in a civil manner. I've been stopping by here and there and have noticed any post against a mod is done in unrespectful ways to put it kindly. They are at a higher status then you because they were chosen to do their job for qualifying in what is needed as a mod. Yes, maybe you feel one doesnt deserve to be respected, or deserve a higher status then you. But someone who has more authority did feel they deserved it. And I think the idea is you're supposed to approach them in a respectful manner.

They do get people in trouble when they disrespect members, its a slower process then when they do a mod. If they banned everyone who disrespected another we would have a max of prolly 100 members left. But its a bigger offense to disrespect a mod because of their authority and status.

While I at first also thought it was not exactly fair to ban someone based on them in vent, a very wise Mod reminded me that vent is an extension of the forums. It being brought back recently its not suprising they have not been able to edit the rules.

I know many of you are against how things have become here, things have gotten stricter and are more in order then before. But that was exactly why this place needed mods. Because it was getting to be a wreck. People complain nobody is doing their job, then complain when they do. Everyone wants to run around like infants with their diaper over their head, slamming into walls and pooping on themselves. But did you guys ever consider instead of only getting more and more out of hand as someone gets in trouble to maybe take a hint? Sadly people dont usually follow regulations till some decide to be wise and get made an example of. So take whoever has been banned her recently, and maybe get an idea of how things are to be.

I saw in a topic several times a mod getting disrespected and flamed, and it going no where. You maybe need to learn its how you word and say things for people to see your points. Once one member said things respectfully, it was then dealt with. Some need to be brought down from their imaginary throne, and learn that you don't run the place. Just be respectful guys. I dont think you're expected to be drones. Just express your opinion or disagreements in a non hostile manner if you want them to get somewhere.

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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
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Well, getting power lvled by a bot = botting.. so no need for vent to prove it in my opinion... eh, did you say te Instinct 4 pages topic was deleted??? omg, my topic :cry: :cry: I really wanna know wot she said there :(

All ppl of rome knows but we cant accuse, neither prove it so if she doesnt post it, she cant be banned according to rules, i'm not saying its unfair but its just following rules, beside after ciddy got banned i dont like srf as before so i dont care about this neither. Just wanna see if mods will apply their rules strictly as always.
Kneko told me that nyu quoted a post of RuYi and said "love you too -.-" no sure cus i wasnt here and when i back thread was already deleted, and yes kneko was stupid for saying he botted on his first char two lvls even though i made him delevel those lvls with pk and he doesnt use it anymore, i agree with his ban. But everyone of rome knows many ppl of this section use bot

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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:41 am 
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And some MOD deleted a whole thread on 4 pages! just after Nyu posted in it.
Is that not illegal then im not sure what is? :?


I apologize for the entire thread being deleted. We do have new mods who just go on their jobs and we have gone through a many management plan changes, so please be patient with us. If you find anything wrong, like a whole thread being deleted, you can PM me in the future and I'll see what we can do to bring you the thread back.

However, you have to realize, there has been a LOT of flaming on Rome and it was going out of hand.

And yes, we do ban botters we got to know in any single way.
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=79269

Vent, other forums, bot admission, anything. Nyu has been banned from bot admission on vent with one of our global moderators, and if you have any more concerns feel free to PM me.

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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:32 am 
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so basically you're saying that if a person goes on vent with a name from srf, and says they bot, not only do they get ban from the vent server, they get ban on srf too?!?!?

wow, so then if that's true i could frame someone i don't like the same process.

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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
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Not true Azn. As long as they do their homework there is no way to ban the wrong person. Everyone has an IP. Administrators on both Ventrilo and forums that run phpBB can see the IP of the person posting and logging into Ventrilo. All that would need to be done was run a check against the Ventrilo IP and then the IP that the person posts on in the forums. If they match, then ban, if not, then use WHOIS IP searching or global search that IP on the forums.

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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
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Well, getting power lvled by a bot = botting.. so no need for vent to prove it in my opinion... eh, did you say te Instinct 4 pages topic was deleted??? omg, my topic :cry: :cry: I really wanna know wot she said there :(


Plvled by a bot isnt botting Else 99% off all ppl on rome are botters

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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
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And some MOD deleted a whole thread on 4 pages! just after Nyu posted in it.
Is that not illegal then im not sure what is? :?


I apologize for the entire thread being deleted. We do have new mods who just go on their jobs and we have gone through a many management plan changes, so please be patient with us. If you find anything wrong, like a whole thread being deleted, you can PM me in the future and I'll see what we can do to bring you the thread back.

However, you have to realize, there has been a LOT of flaming on Rome and it was going out of hand.

And yes, we do ban botters we got to know in any single way.
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=79269

Vent, other forums, bot admission, anything. Nyu has been banned from bot admission on vent with one of our global moderators, and if you have any more concerns feel free to PM me.

Those rules didnt apply when she got banned.. So basicly she cant be banned from confessing there :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
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Yeah i agree with Master, if your not going to follow your own rules why have em? so mods/admins can break them?
Yea i have to agree with this, in rules there's nothing about admitting on a vent server

The SRF vent is an extention of the forums. The rules that apply on the forums, also apply to Vent.
I doubt it can get more logical than that.

We ban bot admitters on SRF, and you think we'd allow them on Vent?
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Yeah i agree with Master, if your not going to follow your own rules why have em? so mods/admins can break them?
Yea i have to agree with this, in rules there's nothing about admitting on a vent server

The SRF vent is an extention of the forums. The rules that apply on the forums, also apply to Vent.
I doubt it can get more logical than that.

We ban bot admitters on SRF, and you think we'd allow them on Vent?
Think again.

Then the mods should update the rules, FIRST!
Since the vent just got opened no1 made a rule that confessing there leads to a ban here..
So i still stand on my point that banning Nyu was unfair since there was no place in the rules saying anything about a vent server..

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for all I care, anything that is bot-related isn't legit....SRF IS legit, so...anything that is bot-related shud be banned from SRF, regardless who is he. right? :?


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Well, getting power lvled by a bot = botting.. so no need for vent to prove it in my opinion... eh, did you say te Instinct 4 pages topic was deleted??? omg, my topic :cry: :cry: I really wanna know wot she said there :(


Plvled by a bot isnt botting Else 99% off all ppl on rome are botters


Well, let me rephrase my question... would you feel being legit if a bot power lvled you???

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AngloKnight wrote:
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Well, getting power lvled by a bot = botting.. so no need for vent to prove it in my opinion... eh, did you say te Instinct 4 pages topic was deleted??? omg, my topic :cry: :cry: I really wanna know wot she said there :(


Plvled by a bot isnt botting Else 99% off all ppl on rome are botters


Well, let me rephrase my question... would you feel being legit if a bot power lvled you???


true, that's exactly what I mean, cuz it's bot-related.


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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
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The problem of Vent is that no1 expect who's on cant say she said that while if someone admit in a post everyone of forum can see that so no1 will complain about it. So its someone's word against her cus I bet she wont admit it even she did so, me as a member of this forum will never know if its really happened or not. I know that's true as i know many here are botters but according to rules ppl has to admit in a post
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I want Ciddy unbanned -.- most of this community are botters and one of few legit got banned meh, I still dont like this banned for unrespect, sounds way too dictatorship for me
just my 2 cents

EDIT: just saw new rules, sounds fair now the ban, too bad its happened before new rules but i still like it, finally something concrete about this problem

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The problem of Vent is that no1 expect who's on cant say she said that while if someone admit in a post everyone of forum can see that so no1 will complain about it. So its someone's word against her cus I bet she wont admit it even she did so, me as a member of this forum will never know if its really happened or not. I know that's true as i know many here are botters but according to rules ppl has to admit in a post
Verba volant, scripta manent :roll:
I want Ciddy unbanned -.- most of this community are botters and one of few legit got banned meh, I still dont like this banned for unrespect, sounds way too dictatorship for me
just my 2 cents


25% from the users in the forums are pure,progressive legits
50% of the users are leet botters
25% of the users are newbies(i mean that in the good way)

and yah..Ciddy unbanned !


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The problem of Vent is that no1 expect who's on cant say she said that while if someone admit in a post everyone of forum can see that so no1 will complain about it. So its someone's word against her cus I bet she wont admit it even she did so, me as a member of this forum will never know if its really happened or not. I know that's true as i know many here are botters but according to rules ppl has to admit in a post
Verba volant, scripta manent :roll:
I want Ciddy unbanned -.- most of this community are botters and one of few legit got banned meh, I still dont like this banned for unrespect, sounds way too dictatorship for me
just my 2 cents


25% from the users in the forums are pure,progressive legits
50% of the users are leet botters
25% of the users are newbies(i mean that in the good way)

and yah..Ciddy unbanned !

I assure u, a lot of botters r around here.


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 Post subject: Re: Nyu getting banned for botting?
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Im not going to mention names but yes there are plenty of bots still left on SRF..
And as Answer said the confession happened BEFORE the vent rule was applied

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