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 Post subject: Here again to annoy you with my Nuker build.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:48 pm 
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Well, I'm currently SP farming, but I was curious as to what masteries I should get for a pure int nuker.

I was thinking either:
90 fire/ 90 lightning/ 60 heuskal/ 60 cold

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90 fire/ 90 lightning/ 60 heuskal/ 60 bicheon


With the first option, I get extra defense boost with the buff and passive, and Frost Nova for players who don't have total immunity.

I don't know how useful the knock-down and stab are at higher levels, but some guldies told me that KD and Stab should definently be considered.


Can anyone give me a little advice on which one is better at the higher levels (40-50+)?


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how much sp u plan on farming...?

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Well, it depends on what build I might do, but probably around 100k SP. Don't say thats a lot, my friend is going for 200k >__< Hes almost there too.

If I go with cold, Im just going for Buff/Frost Nova/ and Passive.

I wouldnt know what to get for sword skills, so if thats the better option could somebody give me an outline of what skills to choose?


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I'm making the second nuker build :D
KD + stabs and high BR shield > ice
Truth hurts T_T i always liked ice... :banghead:


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imo , the 1000 extra hp from spear passive is pretty much worthless with the new alchemy system , at cap you can put +4 str on everything you have and add life to 3 other pieces of gear . no need heuskal anymore

,you can save your self alot of :banghead: and just leave out heuskal

and just take fire /lightning/cold/bisheon

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kitary wrote:
imo , the 1000 extra hp from spear passive is pretty much worthless with the new alchemy system , at cap you can put +4 str on everything you have and add life to 3 other pieces of gear . no need heuskal anymore

,you can save your self alot of :banghead: and just leave out heuskal

and just take fire /lightning/cold/bisheon


why not? he'll still have more hp than some1 who doesnt have heuksal.

IMO just skip bicheon or leave it at lvl 20. you should care about defence.

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kitary wrote:
imo , the 1000 extra hp from spear passive is pretty much worthless with the new alchemy system , at cap you can put +4 str on everything you have and add life to 3 other pieces of gear . no need heuskal anymore

,you can save your self alot of :banghead: and just leave out heuskal

and just take fire /lightning/cold/bisheon

wished i knew that a little earlier...
but heuskal skills aint that bad...gotta love up the flyin' dragon =D
need toO think about ice force...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...


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Ok, so I should still use spear for grinding though?

What about champs/giants? If I go up against one of those, should I just switch over to Sword/Shield? Seeing as I wouldn't have any heuskal skills, Sword would be the logical option with KD and stab, and possibly a couple other moves.

So if I were to go without heuskal, what skills would I get with Bicheon?


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7%br vs 1078hp

I´m not really sure about KD+stab, it always depends on luck if your opponent goes down or not.. and with low health I just don´t feel like risking it.

With the anti-block you can now add on weapons those 7%br aren´t as usefull as before alchemy to. But then again 60 mastery´s for 1k hp (when you can add +hp on equips) seems pretty hard to.


90cold/30heuksel FTW :P (hmm think I´m going 60heuksel/60cold^^

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mine is going to be

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Troo wrote:
7%br vs 1078hp



dont forget the extra defence and phy and mag reinforce a shield gives you .
also dont forget a shield is another spot for +4 str +4 int mods
dont forget shield crititcal

if you ask me 1000 or so hp dusnt conpaire to wat a shield can give you


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kitary wrote:
Troo wrote:
7%br vs 1078hp



dont forget the extra defence and phy and mag reinforce a shield gives you .

However, you don't need to use a Spear to benefit from the Heuksal mastery, but you need a Shield to benefit from Bicheon, which makes Spear mastery a more flexible plan, IMO.


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My doubts about sword-mastery:
- KD+stab might be bad at higher lvls.. i mean if you leave it at 60 (68=double stab :twisted:
- 7% br with new alchemy isn't that superb anymore (it's "ok")
- kd+stab and passive are both luck-based, I find it hard to base my strenght on luck :P

My doubts on cold-mastery:
- well they're just a passive+active skill that adds phy defense. However this means it's pretty useless against int hybrids, pures
- 60cold seems obviously as passive is maxed then. However: 68cold=new book4buff and 90=a extra nice aoe nuke (actually it's for 54, but you need 90cold to do max damage with it ^^

My doubts on heuksel-mastery:
- actually none, 60 mastery points is a bit much for 1k hp.. however it's just a handy back-up that can be used (handy ;p) in any case



hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :roll:

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- actually none, 60 mastery points is a bit much for 1k hp.. however it's just a handy back-up that can be used (handy ;p) in any case


Try to tank a muijigi or a Yeti giant without the HP passive while they are orange to you. If ur pure int it CANT be done. 1 crit will kill you. Some weeks ago i saw a pure int no hp passive, lvl 48, SoS shield + SoS sword die to a crit of a muijigi giant. At PvP a pure str will kill you even faster if u dont have the passive. And i would never trust my life to the block of a shield cauz sometimes it doesnt block 3-5 hits in a row and u die.

IMO. Get the HP Passive and use Sword+Shield if ur pure int. U dont need any bicheon skills.

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Still it makes very much sense what you said: bicheon=luck, cold=phy defense only.. and hp passive is usefull in any case, with cold as backup against str's hmmm

Heuksel+cold for me :) +400hp on every eq, +4int/str should be some deadly nuker ^^

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Thanks for all your suggestions guys. I figure I'll go with the Fire/Light/Cold/Spear, and use a sword/shield for PvP (might use a stronger spear for guild wars and such though.)

Thanks again.


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