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 Post subject: Hybrid chars, my everlasting insanity
PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 2:35 am 
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Ok, so i see all these people SCREAMING and going MENTAL over hybrid chars, saying they ABSOLUTELY suck.

If this game was made for so called, "pure breds" then i dont particually want to play it.

I myself, am new to this forum (first post :roll: ) and new to the game. (lvl 20 hunter) yet, ive done a few rounds of pvp, and owned a few pure int's, and owned some pure str's yet ive been beaten by them all the same.

Im a glaive/fire/force char with lvl 12 ice and lightning for the grass walk and slow down skills for trade runs, 2:1 str/int.

I mean, whats really so bad about this? i get to max out proposed damage with my high strength, yet i max out even MORE dmg with my fire skills, then having enough mana to heal full time, and survive taking aggro.

Forgive me for my strong views, but i think peopel are too strong to jump at players who play hybrids, because i can say, mine certainly looks like it can kick some ass at high level, and i know it does now.


Greetz to everyone, hope i dont offend ya'll ^^


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 2:58 am 
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Huh... i never say they suck. If you want to give me your views about hybrids, look for my topic about 4 builds. Currently it is not active but i want to know more about the 4 builds. So if you do care, please give me your views about hybrid in the topic "4 builds for discussion"

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Yea, there are (i don't wanna say a lot, there are a few less that a lot :P) ppl who say that hybrids are bad, and the only two builds that are worth having are pures. That is not true. Hybrids are very good and interesting builds. On higher lvls they can own a lot of other builds. If you plan how you will go for your hybrid build, you will own other ppl. Str hybrids will survive more, but it will be a little bit harder, than a Int hybrid, because int will deal more dmg, but also have an hp bonus which will enable them too survive longer, than pure int.

And as an additional help here are a few links for you about the Hybrid build:
SuicideGrls Hybrid guide, the best one
Kitarys guide, only if you use sword

And plz if you can delete your other post, or ask Admin or Mod to delete it.


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The reason why i can't say hybrid suck because if you're str/hybrid, you sacrifice your tanking ability for more damage. However if you're int/hybrid, you're sacrificing your damage for your tankibility

But the reason why i go pure str is because i don't want to add ice skill. I wanted to have strong phyical def with just my str and strong magical with my fire protection. I use protector though, giving a more rounded defense.

Although my damage will not be the best, it is decent enough. And the reason why i hate nuke is because i think the attack rate is rather slow, though they can hit hard.

Any way that's my preference...hehe hope people would contribute on my topic about the 4 builds

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:16 am 
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if u are planning to by a str hybrid ,try using spear it do more dmg at higher lv :) .But my Advice is that try int hybrid(spear or sword) 1str:2int


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Maybe i just had some bad experiences with people then :P thanks for the views and tips :)


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Because with a Str hybrid, you're sacrificing the main point of a str(hp/physical damage/crits) for Int characteristics(mp(useless)/magic damage).


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ShizKnight wrote:
Because with a Str hybrid, you're sacrificing the main point of a str(hp/physical damage/crits) for Int characteristics(mp(useless)/magic damage).


But won't TOTAL damage of a str hybrid be higher than a pure str when we include imbue dmg?

I have a pure str blader 5X and pure int nuker 3X. It's no secret that in SRO int chars churn out higher dps compared to str chars.

The only chars that have a good shot at killing the blader in pvp are the nukers. I wear garments with fire magic shield buff to level and their nukes hit for about 1/3 my total hp. Glavies and bladers are of minimal threat in between shield blocks and high phy def resulting from pure str.

I've been thinking about going the hybrid route which will result in higher mag def and higher total dmg with imbue, but you raise a good point that crit dmg is reduced.

I guess we need some tests on a pure str's dmg output vs a str hybrid with same imbue on same target so that we can monitor dps, crit dmg, max and min dmg. This would probably put a conclusive end to the pure vs hybrid debate on the forum, where both sides are stating opinions as though they are facts when in reality there is zero statistical data that exists to back up what they say.


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Yes, it will, but it deducts damage from your crits.


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I have a str hybrid lvl56 char (soon to be 57 after a month of remissive inactivity) and it can stand up to higher pure ints, and occasionally pure str..


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Hybrid is good..who tell u Pure r the best?

Pure str is good at dishing crit and taking dmg..but they take tons of punishment from mag dmg...while pure int take tons of phy dmg making them capable of being 1 hit by a pure str crit at higher lvl

Hybrid however cannot cannot be 1 hit by anyone at the same lvl by pure int ....and also dish out higher dmg at a constant rate unlike pure str

If there's one weak spot for Hybrid int heavy..then it must be phy % and mag % .. u just need to get both of them high to be a strong hybrid..a normal +3 weapon is enuff ...

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:22 am 
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Trekker wrote:
Hybrid is good..who tell u Pure r the best?

Pure str is good at dishing crit and taking dmg..but they take tons of punishment from mag dmg...while pure int take tons of phy dmg making them capable of being 1 hit by a pure str crit at higher lvl

Hybrid however cannot cannot be 1 hit by anyone at the same lvl by pure int ....and also dish out higher dmg at a constant rate unlike pure str

If there's one weak spot for Hybrid int heavy..then it must be phy % and mag % .. u just need to get both of them high to be a strong hybrid..a normal +3 weapon is enuff ...


I agree with what you said but isn't the whole point of a hybrid int heavy character to have just enough HP and phy def to survive crits from pure str characters, while having the rest of the stat points in int to dish out the huge nukes/imbued SS's?

I'm reluctant to go hybrid str heavy because crits are most often the finishing moves in PvP and as for the danger of nukers, once I reach them and chain KDs they pose no threat.


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tbh, the people that say pure are best are the people with narrow minds and 2D thinking. They want a simplified game with only two builds to have to worry about. In other words, when they see a glavie, the automatically know it's a tank whore, when they see a pure int, it's a build that would die in 1-3 hits by pure strs. With that simple minded thinking, it makes guild wars more obvious and simple with just only two builds pure int and pure str.

When you throw in the hybrids ints against pure str, the strs:

purestr: what the hell? you should died by that crit

When you throw in the hybrid strs against pure int:

pureint: my nuke dmg should've been double that what the hell?

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so i have 72 point into int right now (lvl 28) and 104 into str. if put the rest of my points into str till im capped am i considered a str hybrid still?

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