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Goddam it stop filling ppls head with useless shit. Yes archers are not the strongest 1v1 minded. But they have range for a reason. Also when getting berserk book3 it gives a great advantage, since it has more dmg than strongbow, and no real delay.


why wuld i build a build for ranged other than nuker? ppl say nuker is good for group combat thye talk as if they = to archer then y'd i do archer if they are same and nuker lvl faster?

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Goddam it stop filling ppls head with useless shit. Yes archers are not the strongest 1v1 minded. But they have range for a reason. Also when getting berserk book3 it gives a great advantage, since it has more dmg than strongbow, and no real delay.


why wuld i build a build for ranged other than nuker? ppl say nuker is good for group combat thye talk as if they = to archer then y'd i do archer if they are same and nuker lvl faster?

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Archer is pure str and therefore can withstand a lot more than a nuker can..

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The game isn't complete. Hopefully Joymax can give something to archers other than crits. If you give an argument saying that archers have range, then your neglecting the Glaive's Flying Dragon spear, and the Blades ranged attack. Agreeing with XuChu, nukers also have range and are the biggest damage dealers in the game, but a few crits from the bow or devil arrow, and a nuker is gone (granted the nuker doesn't block any of these.. again emphasizing the point that the archer needs something).. Silkroad is hella lopsided, and the bow build is in need of a touch up.

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Goddam it stop filling ppls head with useless shit. Yes archers are not the strongest 1v1 minded. But they have range for a reason. Also when getting berserk book3 it gives a great advantage, since it has more dmg than strongbow, and no real delay.


why wuld i build a build for ranged other than nuker? ppl say nuker is good for group combat thye talk as if they = to archer then y'd i do archer if they are same and nuker lvl faster?

geez


Archer is pure str and therefore can withstand a lot more than a nuker can..


oh yea? but the archer flarking hit half the less and twice the speed
the only str that havent pked me unless higher lvl or way better gear is the "ze archor"


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useless post.

even a pure str bow is able to kill a pure str fire glavie if he/she plays it smart.

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how about leave the lvl 3x before talking?
play smart? this game is just presing the ..... buttons there is no "play smart" here
try crit someone 2 times with a 100% crit on shield
what u mean by play smart? like use phantom walk when they come to u? ZOMG a glaiver can use that too

tell me one of u awesome strategies

Big talk for a guy only in their 40s.


sry i just dont want making a screenshot of my lvl 7x glaiver only to show to u^^


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lvl 53 :roll: glaivers dont even have soul spear soul, bladers dont have 3rd book of kd, i do 4k of damage in normal hits with soul spear soul

@resist
the last book of berseker arrow have the same delay of the 2nd book of strong bow(350%) AND less damage than ghost spear mars, a lvl 63 glaive skill.

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well by the time u leave 2x u will fight more pro people, u cant hide anywhere, just look at radar and anyone will find u, when u hit 70 u will see that before u launch u first anti devil a glaiver will be in u face with max phantom walk and u will be stuned before u notice

i dont see any argument that makes me think that archers arent useless, as xuchu said, after the alchemy a nuker can have like 8k of hp plus the crit on shield plus ranged attacks there is no point in making an archer right now unless for fun.


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very true once i get into high lvls, if ever, i will probably just spend an endless amount of time and ressucitation pots (and gold) to become a glavier anyway. but until that day, and since im not int, archer lvls fastest.

PLus i have sp invested in glavier skills already for that awesome hp bonus.

Plus glavie=teh pwnage. :P

But I like arching atm. :P :P

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u dont really unlearn the bow skills
by the time u hit 70 the cap will be 80 or 90 and ice will be complete useless
so u can dump ice and get bow
u can see some videos in youtube with ppl that have glaive and bow
glaive for pvp and bow to lvl u will only need to farm tons of sp


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a lvl 4x Nuker telling lvl 7xs to stop being a bow ?... Just coz you might've fought 1 guy who was bow and pwned him coz you had 100% freeze resistant gear doesn't mean everyone does. You might as well just go "everyone go anti freeze, it's good for you" and hope that we'll all follow.

Well let me tell you something. Bow = 1 hit kill nuker with crit +fire / with strongbow no crit + fire. Nukers = PvE build. Pure str = Pvp build. bow = In between, good at both. Bow > Nuker. Pure str Glavie > Bow. Pure str glavie = completely owns nuker no need for any crit or anything.

So, if you want to talk about pvp, might as well tell everyone to go pure str glavie, add 5int, 5 str to every piece of armor and add 100% everything resistant to they're jewels to protect from archer. Then, once they have that, repost here, and i'll listen to you =)

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im staying archer. bower is cool. w/e. forget my last post.

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a lvl 4x Nuker telling lvl 7xs to stop being a bow ?... Just coz you might've fought 1 guy who was bow and pwned him coz you had 100% freeze resistant gear doesn't mean everyone does. You might as well just go "everyone go anti freeze, it's good for you" and hope that we'll all follow.

Well let me tell you something. Bow = 1 hit kill nuker with crit +fire / with strongbow no crit + fire. Nukers = PvE build. Pure str = Pvp build. bow = In between, good at both. Bow > Nuker. Pure str Glavie > Bow. Pure str glavie = completely owns nuker no need for any crit or anything.

So, if you want to talk about pvp, might as well tell everyone to go pure str glavie, add 5int, 5 str to every piece of armor and add 100% everything resistant to they're jewels to protect from archer. Then, once they have that, repost here, and i'll listen to you =)


firsr of all stop looking at my signature, its old i dont evel play with full int anymore, and read the entire topic i already saw i have a lvl 70 glaiver.

second i dont get what u want to tell in u post, that 100% freeze is hard to get?
get in lvl 70 and find someone that is not 100% ice immune, if u find 1 or 2 is just matter of time until they have it. Read ur post again and at least make some sense before clicking in submit.

Third, bow dont 1 hit nothing, try crit a int 2 times with 100% crit on shield, even if u do one time u will be dead before u can crit it again, and i will just laugh at u strongbow, jeez, go pvp first before talking so much crap, do u even saw how much time takes to launch a strong bow? u will be dead before u launch it.

so again, make some sense in ur topic.


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Third, bow dont 1 hit nothing, try crit a int 2 times with 100% crit on shield, even if u do one time u will be dead before u can crit it again, and i will just laugh at u strongbow, jeez, go pvp first before talking so much crap, do u even saw how much time takes to launch a strong bow? u will be dead before u launch it.


You sir are 100% incorrect. I am a bower and I DO 1 hit kill pure ints of my level. Last time I did it I did not even crit the guy and he was wearing armor. My fire skills are 10 levels below my bow skills.

So please, as you said, make sure you know what you are talking about.


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Useless? Tell that to the nukers (of my level) that I kill.


sorry mate if u built a str just to kill int's .... that is HELLA SAD


Actually I built a pure Str bow to have fun in a game. I spend less than 5% of my time PvP. Most people spend even less.

Enjoy your cookie cutter, same as everyone else glaive build.


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I totally agree with hellsharpt, i choose bow to have fun in this game. I am lvl 37 str bow user. And i go out thiefing a lot. I know i am going to die a couple of times and maybe if i am lucky shoot something myself.

This game is for fun, i tried playing s&s or glavie or whatever. I just dont like them as much as my bow. So to attack youre statement in a whole other way then just pure facts and skills. I have fun with my bow, so dont come and tell me bow is useless :)

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well, i dont know about anyone else, but i LOVE having the backup of a bow user... say... (_panah_) hehe...


yesterday we were having fun with a lvl 24+ sword man, pretty sure he was 25 or so...

anyway, we are both level 22 (i had barely hit 23 on my secondary char) and we were just running arounnd, i was tankin him (because my secondary is full str blader) and panah was nailin him with arrows...

we never killed him, but we sure as HELL distracted him from watchin his convoy lol

we kept him busy for probably 25 mins just me knockin him down, panah arrowin him, it was just a lot of fun.

lol, then he got on my nerves, and i brought out my lvl 39 for some noob pwnage. hahaha. fun times.

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Imo the berserk books should have knockback, and glaviers should just have stun :P


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I totally agree with hellsharpt, i choose bow to have fun in this game. I am lvl 37 str bow user. And i go out thiefing a lot. I know i am going to die a couple of times and maybe if i am lucky shoot something myself.

This game is for fun, i tried playing s&s or glavie or whatever. I just dont like them as much as my bow. So to attack youre statement in a whole other way then just pure facts and skills. I have fun with my bow, so dont come and tell me bow is useless :)


Thats a brilliant point. This game is about fun. You see thats the thing i dont get about newbies starting this game up. Everyone ask "whats the best build?? how will i become uber super l33t in pvp and pwn everyone?" Why dont people just play with THEY LIKE. That way the game will become much more fun. And no pure build sucks, joymax have gone through a lot of trouble to give each build advantages and weakness.


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really? :shock:

gah dammit figure i have to put some sp points into that book then. Left it lying around till now, cause i dont like the berserk arrow


I know a 70 archer on babel that got sos+4. He can do 9k dmg on berserk book3 crit, on ppl his lvl :twisted:


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a lvl 4x Nuker telling lvl 7xs to stop being a bow ?... Just coz you might've fought 1 guy who was bow and pwned him coz you had 100% freeze resistant gear doesn't mean everyone does. You might as well just go "everyone go anti freeze, it's good for you" and hope that we'll all follow.

Well let me tell you something. Bow = 1 hit kill nuker with crit +fire / with strongbow no crit + fire. Nukers = PvE build. Pure str = Pvp build. bow = In between, good at both. Bow > Nuker. Pure str Glavie > Bow. Pure str glavie = completely owns nuker no need for any crit or anything.

So, if you want to talk about pvp, might as well tell everyone to go pure str glavie, add 5int, 5 str to every piece of armor and add 100% everything resistant to they're jewels to protect from archer. Then, once they have that, repost here, and i'll listen to you =)


firsr of all stop looking at my signature, its old i dont evel play with full int anymore, and read the entire topic i already saw i have a lvl 70 glaiver.

second i dont get what u want to tell in u post, that 100% freeze is hard to get?
get in lvl 70 and find someone that is not 100% ice immune, if u find 1 or 2 is just matter of time until they have it. Read ur post again and at least make some sense before clicking in submit.

Third, bow dont 1 hit nothing, try crit a int 2 times with 100% crit on shield, even if u do one time u will be dead before u can crit it again, and i will just laugh at u strongbow, jeez, go pvp first before talking so much crap, do u even saw how much time takes to launch a strong bow? u will be dead before u launch it.

so again, make some sense in ur topic.


i have a simple solution to people thinking you are lvl 4x... CHANGE YOU ..... SIGNATURE...i mean really. how hard is it???

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I can say as a bow user Lv38 that bow is much faster and easier to level with in Pve. Some people under estimate bows but I do ok Pvp-wise as well. I'm hybrid, so a pure str was a challenge today lv37...but i beat a lv38 with some of those deadly crits. With fire as my main I get all of my magic power and with force as well I'll be essential to guild activities as a different TYPE of charcter. The bow in the backlines can't be reached by most...only nuker and bow can kill them in one sometimes....sometimes the other way around :)

But thats Silkroad.

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I am a bow user and i like bow.




PLS DUN LOOK AT MY SIGNATURE..I AM NOT LVL 34



actually i am a lvl 70 glavier

lvl 69 blader

lvl 67 nuker



so i am not lvl 34 bower...no no no... :D



oh ya..i am lazy to show u my screenshot of my HIGH LVL chars..hehe

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reformat wrote:
I am a bow user and i like bow.




PLS DUN LOOK AT MY SIGNATURE..I AM NOT LVL 34



actually i am a lvl 70 glavier

lvl 69 blader

lvl 67 nuker



so i am not lvl 34 bower...no no no... :D



oh ya..i am lazy to show u my screenshot of my HIGH LVL chars..hehe


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All i have to say is a big F*** YOU to who ever says that bow is usless. A cupple days ago we had a guild war i was able to take out about 3 nukers, all with in 3 lvls of me at a time while tankng a ice blader which was 2 lvls higher. Today i was theifting by the ferries and i almost killed a nuker 6 lvls higher than me, but he ran away before i could finish him.


Bows are the best build for PvP but they can still kick ass and they work even better with team work and stratigies.

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All i have to say is a big F*** YOU to who ever says that bow is usless. A cupple days ago we had a guild war i was able to take out about 3 nukers, all with in 3 lvls of me at a time while tankng a ice blader which was 2 lvls higher. Today i was theifting by the ferries and i almost killed a nuker 6 lvls higher than me, but he ran away before i could finish him.


Bows are the best build for PvP but they can still kick ass and they work even better with team work and stratigies.

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bow is not bad or good..its how u tink of it and how u use it. i do not agree that bow sux and useless, n i enjoy using it. its different people opinion.



all in all.... saying bow=useless is a BIG NO NO. :roll:

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I love my bow. Only think I hate is how much time it takes for me to use Strong Bow. Also I think my bow is great. :)

I changed from Blader to Archer at level 50. :P

I'll be level 60 in a day or two.

BOW IS THE BEST!

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i ampure str glavier fire/light but gonna change to bow soon ^^ and farm lots of sP to compensate lost, early farming T_T.


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i can Farking own bladers my lvl, ty.


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How about we settle this as every build is perfect... get the right gear and your pretty much "better" than the other builds

Your Character should be unique :P


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