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 Post subject: Re: Warlocks
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:13 am 
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Warlocks are sadly underrated...when they should be highly overrated.

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 Post subject: Re: Warlocks
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:13 am 
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Combo recipe against any build:
Disease - Stun - Debuffs - Wheel Bind - Bloody Trap combined with Sleep (you gonna sleep dude, long time + absolute damage) - DoTs = Rape.

Special recipe for a bowman:
Use that nice skill "Short-sighted" and apply the above combo.

Still, some people underestimate the Warlock's abilities for Mass Destruction.

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 Post subject: Re: Warlocks
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:15 pm 
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I guess you arent warlock...
Ice wall resists you from all bad states, curses, debuffs, and everything that leaves mark under nick... and also makes impossible to drain hp from target.

OMG lol are u sure ice wall lvl 1 can do that? hmm ice wall lvl 1 against curses lvl 7 or 8? LOL
Warlock cant do anything? ... hmmm and u can? so if u attack warlock can use Dusk armor to absolute damage to u and use reflect ... so bye bye wall
Well Blood/Death flower are Nukes ... so nukes mean mag damage ... wtf u do with ur stupid ice wall lvl 1? LOL
Bowmans = range? Warlock has Fog sight skill to Reduces range of ranged skills ^^

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 Post subject: Re: Warlocks
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:35 pm 
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Embodiment wrote:
Warlocks are sadly underrated...when they should be highly overrated.


HaHa

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 Post subject: Re: Warlocks
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:38 am 
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holy word or fire shield lv 1 = dead warlock

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 Post subject: Re: Warlocks
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:57 am 
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holy word or fire shield lv 1 = dead warlock

Those are easily counterable. That warlock should deserve to die if they do not know how to fight against holy word or fire shield.

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 Post subject: Re: Warlocks
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:44 am 
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Fire shield doesn't protect against the warlock debuffs.

And if the other player has holy word, it's going to be a group pvp unless it's a cleric..

And the group pvp the other players would kill the cleric.

Then the warlock would work it's magic.

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 Post subject: Re: Warlocks
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:02 am 
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it does if u read the decription :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Warlocks
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:47 am 
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Lordkraven wrote:
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I guess you arent warlock...
Ice wall resists you from all bad states, curses, debuffs, and everything that leaves mark under nick... and also makes impossible to drain hp from target.

OMG lol are u sure ice wall lvl 1 can do that? hmm ice wall lvl 1 against curses lvl 7 or 8? LOL
Warlock cant do anything? ... hmmm and u can? so if u attack warlock can use Dusk armor to absolute damage to u and use reflect ... so bye bye wall
Well Blood/Death flower are Nukes ... so nukes mean mag damage ... wtf u do with ur stupid ice wall lvl 1? LOL
Bowmans = range? Warlock has Fog sight skill to Reduces range of ranged skills ^^

You can't fog sight a player in ice wall. And absolute damage every 2 seconds isn't enough against a player your lvl or a couple lvls below. Chinese pot too fast and bowman needs one strong bow or a crit to kill the warlock. dusk armor does a little more than 1k damage on players with decent armor on so that's not enough to kill and nukes are not powerful enough without the courage raze.
Fudge got that info from pvping me he knows what he's talking about and I am still figuring a way around that one.
Also.. reflect is a suicide skill in my opinion. Kills all nukers but str don't die from it unless they have a sun.

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 Post subject: Re: Warlocks
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:42 am 
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the only thing a warlock can do in a 1on1 vs a player in ice wall is run and get out of range till the other player decide to remove the wall.
wondering if shield bash can remove the ice wall.
making warrior lvl 10 a crucial skill for warlocks.


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 Post subject: Re: Warlocks
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:46 am 
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borat2 wrote:
the only thing a warlock can do in a 1on1 vs a player in ice wall is run and get out of range till the other player decide to remove the wall.
wondering if shield bash can remove the ice wall.
making warrior lvl 10 a crucial skill for warlocks.


No, using shield trash on the wall is like suicide for the warlock since u can't knock someone back when theyre in the wall.

i really think warlocks are handicapped in a way that they can't kill unless they sleep trap.
which doesnt work if uve got lvl 1 ice wall up.

if u build a warlock for 1v1 southgate cape pvp then ur drivin down the wrong road, theyre great jobbing and in wars if u can take care of them long enough.

i think startin at lvl 70+ that sleep trap combo starts working fairly well on lvl 80s.
U can pull it off at 64 but the DoT's arent strong enough.

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 Post subject: Re: Warlocks
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:03 pm 
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if the person using ice shield then a reflect of that persons attack would cancell the wall if the warlock could stay alive long enough for the reflect to work?

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 Post subject: Re: Warlocks
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:14 pm 
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You can't fog sight a player in ice wall. And absolute damage every 2 seconds isn't enough against a player your lvl or a couple lvls below. Chinese pot too fast and bowman needs one strong bow or a crit to kill the warlock. dusk armor does a little more than 1k damage on players with decent armor on so that's not enough to kill and nukes are not powerful enough without the courage raze.

If warlock cant break the wall, then he shouldnt let you make it... and i guess stun is quite faster than making wall up :S


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 Post subject: Re: Warlocks
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:56 pm 
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I've only been up against ice wall once or twice. The answer? Run away. Surprisingly, no one thinks of using it when they see a Euro. It's more like OMG NOOB EURO THORG SMASSSSHHHHH and then they just run straight up to you and begin attacking their little hearts out. I don't think people can tell if someone is a warlock or a cleric since you have to look close up at their weapon.

The only other solution I can think of besides running away is using Stun, Vampire Touch, Bloody Trap, then Sleep. If Vampire Touch worked then Bloody Trap and Sleep will also land, therefore immobilizing your opponent. But if they raise ice wall before you touch them, then you might as well get out of there >.>

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 Post subject: Re: Warlocks
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:37 pm 
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Advancechao wrote:
I've only been up against ice wall once or twice. The answer? Run away.


This only works for warlocks, that lack offensive powers..."Countless" bows tried this vs my Warlock/Wizard thinking "yes you can't curse me, noob" but everyone forget I'm also a wizard, I just use "Decayed(bleed), and Curse Breath(dull)" on the icewall, this will still do damage to them and cast dull and bleed on them while they are in the icewall, then I tele out of range, Earth Barrier then Life Control, this is when they cancel the icewall and try to make it into the safezone before the "Boom" but Dull is awesome.

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