XuChus full guide on nuker

bleaK · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 782

trust me.

one u start nuking. u will be AMAZED how fast u lvl. even if ur 2/3 hitting mobs (and not 1/2 hitting).

it is almost unbelievable.

themskillz · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 42

XuChu wrote:

themskillz wrote:

solid build for levelling very fast, but piss poor for pvp. that is not a complete build by any means. even for powerlevelling, youll want to go almost strictly spear/light, but add parry passive/buff to the list as you can afford it.

as mentioned, you want ghost spear petal... nuke+petal will be your primary killing method on melee mobs. prior to level 30, use soul spear move, ghost petal, and wolfbite to kill mobs.

once you settle down on levelling, i suggest sword/shield and protector for pvp... key to pure int pvp in not being 1shotted, that combination prevents 1shots from both str and int builds.

the lightning and spear tree is good enough to powerlevel until you find a nice spot to farm SP. the ideal farming spot is nachals at level 69. others might be ujigis or ishades...

i suggest getting 10 bow for the white hawk and passive, attack rating helps a lot because nukes have a wide damage range with a large multiplier.

i would suggest the following to make a very solid nuker at level 70:
Light:67
Imbue:none
Everything else maxxed to level 67

Ice: level 60
pdef buff to level 60.
level 1 frost nova book 1, and level 1 book 2
pdef passive level 6

fire: level 70
imbue: max
magic defense buff: max
fire shield status effect buff: max
fire nuke book 1: level 1
fire nuke book 2: max
fire nuke book 3: optional

spear: 63
hp passive: level 6
soul spear: level 58 for soul spear soul
ghost spear: level 63 for mars
(other skills for having fun blowing away nubs like yuhon and jade break

)

sword: 20
block passive: 2
knockdown/stab level 1 (prevent those annoying blade ksers

bow:10
hawk and passive

wearing garment should not be a problem until the caves levelling with spear. youll save plenty on MP potions, and if/when you die to mobs, it will be from lag (which wearing armor wont help), or you tanked too many mobs and should have just run (which you should do with armor also, because it gives you a false sense of security, the mobs will still kill you). i suggest garment from 1-60, protector from 61-65, garment from 66-70(72). during the times youre wearing protector, use sword shield as well.

what to hunt? least botted mobs x_X. just do quests til level 40 or so, you wont really have time to hunt your own mobs outside of that if you do the quests at 1:1 mastery:level, after that... then bunwangs>ujigi>ishade/hashade>planars/sonars>yetis... enter caves at 62, postponing the quest wont kill you, and yetis are more efficient. [i did big white spiders from 54>59 and dont regret it, they die easy, dont scratch you, and arent botted to hell. this was before sawns were incresed in korakoram... youll need to experiment.

just a few tips i had from making my nuker... youll need to farm heavy SP, so plan in advance when youll do it.

hmmmmm getting white hawk lvl 1 u sound like a player who hasnt made 3X yet

where would you assign 10 mastery that gives a nuker a bigger advantage than +18 attack rating? the build accounts for 290/300, so it is good for 80 cap already, upping fire to 80... it can also be used easily by a spear user or sword/shield, although if you plan to not use spear, reduce spear mastery to 60, and max light skills instead...

considering you couldnt kill this build in zerk, you might want to reconsider who the nub is...

@ 30>33 in 3 hours... short of having a 24/32 som/sosun spear in double xp, thats not happening

reeceybaby · **Joined:** Mar 2006 **Posts:** 53 **Location:**

MY PERSONAL opinion is that the best type of nuker is one that keeps there STR half of their INTso for instance a few levels ago my STR was 120 and my int was 240 (without +'s) no i didnt go 2:1 this build has no ratio, it requires you to calculate and add the points to the correct side as you go along, before i have had full ints/ full STR and i always thought hybrids were weak, but this motherfu cker is strong, 85% the power of a nuker and 1.5k more hp than a nuker... so basicallyi still one hits nukers up and around my level.. just as they can one hit me but when it comes to str i can tank them easier and have MORE chance at killing them than a full int at same level. Added to this if both pure int and my build which i call half hp. is wearing garments they wil still die in one ht, i will die in two depending on how good a hit they get....

So dont listen to everyone thats says go FULL INT ZOMG or ZOMG HYBRIDS ARE WEEEEEAK choose wisely.

MALDITO · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 104 **Location:**

It's funny how people below lvl 70 makes guides for lowbies

hellsharpt · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 3003 **Location:** Khadgar

its funny how people that don't contribute feel the need to mock others that do.

Some good points all around. As far as hyunchons they are slow, have single attacks and respawn relatively fast. Taoists/magicians spawn slower and there is alot more competition for them. To me it's 50/50. Most times you are following the quests anyways.

BlindSpear · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 241 **Location:**

MALDITO wrote:

It's funny how people below lvl 70 makes guides for lowbies

U talk as if a lvl70 would known everything about the game...
I known people 10 lvls higher them me that dont what magic
balance is lol

Yes, level allows u to experience some things that some1 lower
level them u may not be able to. But that dont necessary means
that what u known about the game depends of ur level.

XuChu · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2429 **Location:** here

themskillz wrote:

XuChu wrote:

themskillz wrote:

solid build for levelling very fast, but piss poor for pvp. that is not a complete build by any means. even for powerlevelling, youll want to go almost strictly spear/light, but add parry passive/buff to the list as you can afford it.

as mentioned, you want ghost spear petal... nuke+petal will be your primary killing method on melee mobs. prior to level 30, use soul spear move, ghost petal, and wolfbite to kill mobs.

once you settle down on levelling, i suggest sword/shield and protector for pvp... key to pure int pvp in not being 1shotted, that combination prevents 1shots from both str and int builds.

the lightning and spear tree is good enough to powerlevel until you find a nice spot to farm SP. the ideal farming spot is nachals at level 69. others might be ujigis or ishades...

i suggest getting 10 bow for the white hawk and passive, attack rating helps a lot because nukes have a wide damage range with a large multiplier.

i would suggest the following to make a very solid nuker at level 70:
Light:67
Imbue:none
Everything else maxxed to level 67

Ice: level 60
pdef buff to level 60.
level 1 frost nova book 1, and level 1 book 2
pdef passive level 6

fire: level 70
imbue: max
magic defense buff: max
fire shield status effect buff: max
fire nuke book 1: level 1
fire nuke book 2: max
fire nuke book 3: optional

spear: 63
hp passive: level 6
soul spear: level 58 for soul spear soul
ghost spear: level 63 for mars
(other skills for having fun blowing away nubs like yuhon and jade break

)

sword: 20
block passive: 2
knockdown/stab level 1 (prevent those annoying blade ksers

bow:10
hawk and passive

wearing garment should not be a problem until the caves levelling with spear. youll save plenty on MP potions, and if/when you die to mobs, it will be from lag (which wearing armor wont help), or you tanked too many mobs and should have just run (which you should do with armor also, because it gives you a false sense of security, the mobs will still kill you). i suggest garment from 1-60, protector from 61-65, garment from 66-70(72). during the times youre wearing protector, use sword shield as well.

what to hunt? least botted mobs x_X. just do quests til level 40 or so, you wont really have time to hunt your own mobs outside of that if you do the quests at 1:1 mastery:level, after that... then bunwangs>ujigi>ishade/hashade>planars/sonars>yetis... enter caves at 62, postponing the quest wont kill you, and yetis are more efficient. [i did big white spiders from 54>59 and dont regret it, they die easy, dont scratch you, and arent botted to hell. this was before sawns were incresed in korakoram... youll need to experiment.

just a few tips i had from making my nuker... youll need to farm heavy SP, so plan in advance when youll do it.

hmmmmm getting white hawk lvl 1 u sound like a player who hasnt made 3X yet

where would you assign 10 mastery that gives a nuker a bigger advantage than +18 attack rating? the build accounts for 290/300, so it is good for 80 cap already, upping fire to 80... it can also be used easily by a spear user or sword/shield, although if you plan to not use spear, reduce spear mastery to 60, and max light skills instead...

considering you couldnt kill this build in zerk, you might want to reconsider who the nub is...

@ 30>33 in 3 hours... short of having a 24/32 som/sosun spear in double xp, thats not happening

even by lvl 40 18 attack rating is nothing

XuChu · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2429 **Location:** here

MALDITO wrote:

It's funny how people below lvl 70 makes guides for lowbies

what lvl are you?70?
if no one under 70 wrote guides. there will be no guides

MALDITO · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 104 **Location:**

XuChu wrote:

MALDITO wrote:

It's funny how people below lvl 70 makes guides for lowbies

what lvl are you?70?
if no one under 70 wrote guides. there will be no guides

Yes I am lvl 70 since some weeks in Aege, full int nuker.
Sorry if i sound nasty, but there's a lot of new experience when u reach lvl 64 and above of wich masterys to get and how the pvp vs glaivers/bladers really is, anyway is interesting that u say to use spear for a nuker, the problem is on high lvls on a pvp if u use spear u are dead very fast.
My recomendations shortly are :
Use Spear for PvE (if u want), Sword & Shield for Pvp.
Depending on ur lvl try to get a garment and armor set, use the armor set always for Pvp.
Use ur sp thinking on lvl 90, try to get this : Heuksal 60(pasive), Ice 60(defense), Fire 90(imbue and nukes) and Light 90(buffs and nukes).
If u want meanwhile (while u are not 90

) u can get knockdown for Pvp.
Sorry again and good luck :wink:

Pd.: Updated my signature, on the video i was using my spear and it were +3 by that time, now it's +5 and getting about 15k on zerk on mobs lvl 70 :twisted:

sadaznloser · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 39 **Location:**

should i get fire lighning or cold imbue?? whats better for the build

MALDITO · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 104 **Location:**

sadaznloser wrote:

should i get fire lighning or cold imbue?? whats better for the build

If u want some unwanted mobs over u use light, if u want to have control of the mobs u are attacking then use fire imbue. Cold = useless

MaNNia · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 69 **Location:**

MALDITO , can u post SS whit your skilltree ?
i think i will start new char after i will finish my gold ticket on mine.

and wich is the fastest way to get lvl 30 pure int
wich weapon to use ? Bow ?

bleaK · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 782

MaNNia wrote:

MALDITO , can u post SS whit your skilltree ?
i think i will start new char after i will finish my gold ticket on mine.

and wich is the fastest way to get lvl 30 pure int
wich weapon to use ? Bow ?

use the weapon u will be using.

with imbue and weapon skills u can kill fast

with spear i think i killed in 2-3 hits (1 soul spear then 2 hits.)

stimmedcow · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 570

bleaK wrote:

XuChu wrote:

lvl 29-32 hyeoncheong

why on earth would u hunt hyeong's and not taoists/magicians

For L30-L32 for a nuker, if you are simply leveling and not doing the Taoist charm quest, Hyeongs are way better. Here's why:

* Hyeongs are big, slow, and take 2-3 secs before they actually do damage to you.
* Hyeongs, while melee mobs, can easily be outran with no grasswalk and only protector on.
* Fighting in the open plains is a lot easier than the ravine.
* You are only fighting Hyeongs, no other aggros (the scare powders are easily avoidable).
* Only thing to worry about is Giant Hyeongs.
* You can easily nuke Hyeongs before they even get to you and not get hit. All you are spending on is Mana Pots.

Now, if you look at Taoists:

* Taosists are small, fast, and can either attack instantly or in a sec.
* Taosists have only ranged attacks
* When fighting in the Ravine, you have to worry about gunpowders and earth ghosts. Even in the areas with only Magicians, there are gun powders, and lots of them
* You have to worry about giant Gunpowders, Giant Earth Ghosts, as well as Giant Taoists.
* You also have to go deep into the ravine so you are not in any trade paths.
* You can only get in one nuke before a taoist will attack. If you shout quickly enough, you won't get hit.
* Taoists do burn damage, and powders do darkness in addition. You have to spend on all the pots, universal, hp and mp.

All of this is what I've gone though the past few days. With nukes though, I'd just use them on black scorps or blood ongs for more fun and exp rather than taos or Hyeongs. The only reason I'm in the ravine now is for the 200 charm quest.

If you are a pure int nuker trying to level/sp farm, Hyeongs are a much better place. I don't think anyone can convince me otherwise, but you can try

stimmedcow · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 570

MaNNia wrote:

and wich is the fastest way to get lvl 30 pure int
wich weapon to use ? Bow ?

No, use a spear/glaive. Only get each spear skill level to 1 to use. More on what I think in the guide I wrote, but it's a L30 2 nuke guide, not a 1 nuke full like thius one.

/shameless plug

Now getting to 30 is not that hard, but you really do need to have a +1 or more weapon at your level all thoughout to be in good shape. For low levels, under 18ish, bow is fine to use as long as you do not level any bow tree skils. Once you get to Donwhang, bow is less effective w/o skills and that's where you should have glaive/spear skills (soul, petal, wolf bite)

The reason why I say bow is useless at Donwhang w/o skills is becase:

* You can maybe get in 2 and sometimes 3 shots before the enemy is on you. With regular imbued attacks, that is maybe 1/8 of their hp.
* Now that the enemy is on you, you are trading blow for blow pretty much, and they will be doing more damage to you than you are to them with standard gear.
* You can't easily outrun anything on donwhang. As soon as you try, you risk running into the next aggro mob. If you haven't noticed, Chakjis like to gang-bang in packs of 5+.

As a nuker you will not be using any bow skills, so theres no point in learning them just to delearn them later. Trust me, you do not want to do this. I have a L29 nuker with an extensive bow tree just so i could try to get to 30 and it's not pretty.

Now, instead if you used a glaive/spear with those skills, you start out with soul, which has a decent chance to stun, then use wolf bite/dancing demon and finish off with a regular attack or petal (or however you wanan combo) and you're done. Even at level 1 skills, you do quite a lot of damage, actually you suprising do a lot more than expected (using soul then petal).

If you are getting grouped too much, make sure you are in protector or armor then, and you should be ok. Make sure to have the latest gear around your level too. It did me just fine, the spear tree is a lot better imo for a nuker getting to 30 than a bow.

The only exception is if you happen to have both a L16 and L24 soX bow. Then you will be fine w/o skills in Donwhang. But not everyone has that luxery

XuChu · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2429 **Location:** here

ty stimmedcow for explaining why hyeoncheong not earthmage couldnt have said it better myself

whY-2G · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 1150

One question i need answerin...
do nukers need any weapon skills or can they do just fine with force skills (nukes)...???

bleaK · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 782

whY-2G wrote:

One question i need answerin...
do nukers need any weapon skills or can they do just fine with force skills (nukes)...???

get weapon skills. BUT ONLY LEVEL ONE of each skill. lvling them up is a waste of masteries and sp cuz the phy boost u get is so small its not worth it.

XuChu · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2429 **Location:** here

RaiKiRii wrote:

XuChu wrote:

RaiKiRii
if you think my guide is so useless please make your own.

already did, and i never said it was useless. what good is anyone who cant take critique from others on their own creations?

cant take critique? there is so many negative posts about this guide compared to possitive and i have not said stfu or such..... so what do you mean by cant take critique.
for what i said before you may have misunderstood i ment since
you yourself is such an "Master" at building nukers you should share your great pearls of wisdom with the others.rather than waste your time with ignorant players such as myself

whY-2G · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 1150

bleaK wrote:

whY-2G wrote:

One question i need answerin...
do nukers need any weapon skills or can they do just fine with force skills (nukes)...???

get weapon skills. BUT ONLY LEVEL ONE of each skill. lvling them up is a waste of masteries and sp cuz the phy boost u get is so small its not worth it.

so lvl up one weapon skill...?
think i might have toO pick spear then ='C even tho i wanted toO use a bow ='C

something like this ??? (i wanted flyin-dragon move =D)

RaiKiRii · **Joined:** Jan 2006 **Posts:** 1351 **Location:**

XuChu wrote:

RaiKiRii wrote:

XuChu wrote:

RaiKiRii
if you think my guide is so useless please make your own.

already did, and i never said it was useless. what good is anyone who cant take critique from others on their own creations?

cant take critique? there is so many negative posts about this guide compared to possitive and i have not said stfu or such..... so what do you mean by cant take critique.
for what i said before you may have misunderstood i ment since
you yourself is such an "Master" at building nukers you should share your great pearls of wisdom with the others.rather than waste your time with ignorant players such as myself

did you even read what i write? i never made ANY negative points about your guide. i just offered my opinions on what i thought was better grinding spots. i never said i was "Master" at anything. lol attacking me and putting words in my mouth seems like you're trying to block out the opinions of others, insinuating that YOU are the best nuker out there.

BlindSpear · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 241 **Location:**

whY-2G wrote:

bleaK wrote:

whY-2G wrote:

One question i need answerin...
do nukers need any weapon skills or can they do just fine with force skills (nukes)...???

get weapon skills. BUT ONLY LEVEL ONE of each skill. lvling them up is a waste of masteries and sp cuz the phy boost u get is so small its not worth it.

so lvl up one weapon skill...?
think i might have toO pick spear then ='C even tho i wanted toO use a bow ='C

something like this ??? (i wanted flyin-dragon move =D)

Flying dragons is cool. As strong as 2 lion shouts, but uses less mp ^_^
But will u be using spear?! Cauz if u will be using sword+shield all the time, spear skills will be useless. (The passive is a great help thou, if u will be pure get it as high as u can cauz u will really need it.)

About the skills, after 30 u need only ghost spear, flying dragon and the passive.

whY-2G · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 1150

BlindSpear wrote:

whY-2G wrote:

bleaK wrote:

whY-2G wrote:

One question i need answerin...
do nukers need any weapon skills or can they do just fine with force skills (nukes)...???

get weapon skills. BUT ONLY LEVEL ONE of each skill. lvling them up is a waste of masteries and sp cuz the phy boost u get is so small its not worth it.

so lvl up one weapon skill...?
think i might have toO pick spear then ='C even tho i wanted toO use a bow ='C

something like this ??? (i wanted flyin-dragon move =D)

Flying dragons is cool. As strong as 2 lion shouts, but uses less mp ^_^
But will u be using spear?! Cauz if u will be using sword+shield all the time, spear skills will be useless. (The passive is a great help thou, if u will be pure get it as high as u can cauz u will really need it.)

About the skills, after 30 u need only ghost spear, flying dragon and the passive.

i've picked a spear over S&S...so more HP for me im guessin =D
so should i lvl all heuksal skills toO lvl 1? (part from the fanning spear one)

XuChu · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2429 **Location:** here

RaiKiRii wrote:

XuChu wrote:

RaiKiRii wrote:

XuChu wrote:

RaiKiRii
if you think my guide is so useless please make your own.

already did, and i never said it was useless. what good is anyone who cant take critique from others on their own creations?

cant take critique? there is so many negative posts about this guide compared to possitive and i have not said stfu or such..... so what do you mean by cant take critique.
for what i said before you may have misunderstood i ment since
you yourself is such an "Master" at building nukers you should share your great pearls of wisdom with the others.rather than waste your time with ignorant players such as myself

did you even read what i write? i never made ANY negative points about your guide. i just offered my opinions on what i thought was better grinding spots. i never said i was "Master" at anything. lol attacking me and putting words in my mouth seems like you're trying to block out the opinions of others, insinuating that YOU are the best nuker out there.

i did read what you wrote and did i ever say YOU made negative posts??

and i never said YOU said ur a master at anything i said it.....
it was all a complement and u took as an attack? i feel so heart broken :cry:

BlindSpear · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 241 **Location:**

whY-2G wrote:

i've picked a spear over S&S...so more HP for me im guessin =D
so should i lvl all heuksal skills toO lvl 1? (part from the fanning spear one)

U only need ghost spear, flying dragon and the passive if ur
pure.

U dont need to level any other skills. Unless u need them to get
to lvl30... them get 1 lvl of it. All this skills cost only 10-80 sp each.
Thats very cheap^^

whY-2G · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 1150

BlindSpear wrote:

whY-2G wrote:

i've picked a spear over S&S...so more HP for me im guessin =D
so should i lvl all heuksal skills toO lvl 1? (part from the fanning spear one)

U only need ghost spear, flying dragon and the passive if ur
pure.

U dont need to level any other skills. Unless u need them to get
to lvl30... them get 1 lvl of it. All this skills cost only 10-80 sp each.
Thats very cheap^^

thanks...all i needed toO know...need toO lvl now XD

XuChu · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2429 **Location:** here

whY-2G wrote:

BlindSpear wrote:

whY-2G wrote:

i've picked a spear over S&S...so more HP for me im guessin =D
so should i lvl all heuksal skills toO lvl 1? (part from the fanning spear one)

U only need ghost spear, flying dragon and the passive if ur
pure.

U dont need to level any other skills. Unless u need them to get
to lvl30... them get 1 lvl of it. All this skills cost only 10-80 sp each.
Thats very cheap^^

thanks...all i needed toO know...need toO lvl now XD

no one can teach you that lol

IguanaRampage · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 2483 **Location:** Changing

well i think its OK... i would have done fire imbue. Also WHY did u leave out ghost spear on the spear moves?? Makes no sense. You also didnt include anything whatsoever about sword passive if youre going to pvp with sword you might just wanna get lvl 1 of the sword passive (I'd say its optional). I would think that fire shield is a must, and same with the fire protection series. You didnt include concentration or lightning passive either. but this is just my opinion. Good job on other stuff.

bleaK · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 782

he didnt literally mean 3 hours....

XuChu · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2429 **Location:** here

IguanaRampage wrote:

well i think its OK... i would have done fire imbue. Also WHY did u leave out ghost spear on the spear moves?? Makes no sense. You also didnt include anything whatsoever about sword passive if youre going to pvp with sword you might just wanna get lvl 1 of the sword passive (I'd say its optional). I would think that fire shield is a must, and same with the fire protection series. You didnt include concentration or lightning passive either. but this is just my opinion. Good job on other stuff.

i didnt wanna add a whole section just for the passive and many people thinks lvl 1 passive is useless

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