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Which Is Better
Poll ended at Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:20 pm
Bard/Wizz 13%  13%  [ 4 ]
Or 45%  45%  [ 14 ]
Bard/Cleric 42%  42%  [ 13 ]
Total votes : 31
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 Post subject: Name For A Bard & What Class. ( Bard/Wizz Or Bard/ Cleric )?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:20 pm 
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I Can't Figure Out a Name.......... Or A CLASS FOR A BARD D:



So Please Help Me With This Quest. XD :dope:


lol. I Know People With Bard/Wizz And There Like 101 +. There Really Good So i was Wondering If i should Do That My Self?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:19 pm 
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Definitely "Or" is better :P jokin, well, wiz/bard for fast lvling, bard/cleric for pvp/group pvp. Both are good for party playing

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:47 pm 
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Bard/cleric is the afk playing build .

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:22 pm 
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Go for battle bard with cleric sub. Level up necessary attack and support skills at both bard and cler. U will need more sp but that would not be problem for you because every party needs bards and clerics so u can farm or level up in parties pretty fast.

Search google if you don't know what is battle bard.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:28 pm 
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Lol @ who voted "Or" xD

I voted Wizard/Bard: Not because it's the most fun class, but because you will very soon find out that finding decent parties at low levels is as easy as getting logged into a server. Bard/Cleric is fun, obviously, but not a very good solo-player and that's what you'll mainly be doing underneath lvl 70. Up to you, and with Bard sub you'll still be a good partyplayer, if you take all the dances/tambours/...

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:41 pm 
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I think "Or" is the best build for you.

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Bard/cleric is the afk playing build .

I disagree, I tried wiz/bard before and its a bit hard to play legit, I dunno how bots lvl their wizz/bards because if a giant attks they are screwed, even a champion is hard.

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Bard/cleric is the afk playing build .

I disagree, I tried wiz/bard before and its a bit hard to play legit, I dunno how bots lvl their wizz/bards because if a giant attks they are screwed, even a champion is hard.

That's because you should really go for monsters who are a few levels lower than you (with my Wiz/Bard, when I was lvl 40, I killed huns/sungsung (they shouldn't be blue, otherwise you get too few xp)). You can kill monsters like Small Bunwang, who don't have giants as a lvl 42 wiz, since you don't have champs/giants ^^ Go check it out, bots wizards will always be fighting monsters under their levels. Just go Seiren(es) and you'll see ...

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Ownage wrote:
S3by wrote:
Bard/cleric is the afk playing build .

I disagree, I tried wiz/bard before and its a bit hard to play legit, I dunno how bots lvl their wizz/bards because if a giant attks they are screwed, even a champion is hard.


That's because u didn't had bard tambour , hit march , dances , that's what i'm talking about , u enter party , go to safe spot , buff , hit N and afk .

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Corevalue wrote:
Ownage wrote:
S3by wrote:
Bard/cleric is the afk playing build .

I disagree, I tried wiz/bard before and its a bit hard to play legit, I dunno how bots lvl their wizz/bards because if a giant attks they are screwed, even a champion is hard.

That's because you should really go for monsters who are a few levels lower than you (with my Wiz/Bard, when I was lvl 40, I killed huns/sungsung (they shouldn't be blue, otherwise you get too few xp)). You can kill monsters like Small Bunwang, who don't have giants as a lvl 42 wiz, since you don't have champs/giants ^^ Go check it out, bots wizards will always be fighting monsters under their levels. Just go Seiren(es) and you'll see ...


i easily got to 72 with my wiz/bard :?
always had a +2/+3 set with int/str blues
with life control i killed slow normal mobs with snow wind/earth quake in groups
or fire bolt/frozen spear if singled out
at times even monsters about 5-6 lvls higher

grains,earth fence, lightning shock and charged wind (and a wolf)helped vs giants
(or a quick dash to safety with a shield lol)

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That's because u didn't had bard tambour , hit march , dances , that's what i'm talking about , u enter party , go to safe spot , buff , hit N and afk .


normally as a wiz you take the offensive role in a party and you will mostly rely on the pt members instead of a safespot to stay alive.
As a former owner of an 11d bard/cleric i can also say that "just afk tambour" is an insult to all the possibilities of the build :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Name For A Bard & What Class. ( Bard/Wizz Or Bard/ Cleric )?
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Bard/Cleric just owns, hardly any pot usage, fast, can grind on higher level mobs than wizards, gets in hugher lvl parties easily (I had 47 bard/Cleric and I got to Penon parties very often)

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Bard/Cleric just owns, hardly any pot usage, fast, can grind on higher level mobs than wizards, gets in hugher lvl parties easily (I had 47 bard/Cleric and I got to Penon parties very often)



:pwnd: if you played more often on that bard you would've been higher than that!

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Bard/cleric is the afk playing build .


not everyone plays like that, I use all my attacks and discord wave plus cure melody in a party, and switch to cleric for blesses and whatnot when needed. fastest casting attacks = sometimes I ks my guildie, she's level 80 wizard. I don't like to go afk with a tambour up.

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I gave up on my bard/wiz, hinestly, it was crap after 48, so i started a new bard/cleric.. and OMG was i surprised once i hit 60.. everyone wanted me, like, you'd do ONE global "Level 60 bard/cleric looking for grinding party" and you get a spam of messages (This is on Oasis).

So honestly, i'd go cleric as a sub, having bless spell and recovery division is a livesaver, you rarely die. (Light Arm + Unlimited Mana <3)

Edit: Why not name it "StartDancing" ot something like that?


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those names are somewhat.. generic :soosad:

why not something like
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OneHitWonder

that have to do with music :D

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I gave up on my bard/wiz, hinestly, it was crap after 48, so i started a new bard/cleric.. and OMG was i surprised once i hit 60.. everyone wanted me, like, you'd do ONE global "Level 60 bard/cleric looking for grinding party" and you get a spam of messages (This is on Oasis).

So honestly, i'd go cleric as a sub, having bless spell and recovery division is a livesaver, you rarely die. (Light Arm + Unlimited Mana <3)

Edit: Why not name it "StartDancing" ot something like that?


hehe call it MichaelJaxon
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Fighting as a cleric isn't bad either. A cleric/bard/warrior ownzzzzz everyone in pvp :D

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Zamu wrote:
Fighting as a cleric isn't bad either. A cleric/bard/warrior ownzzzzz everyone in pvp :D

What?

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Fighting as a cleric isn't bad either. A cleric/bard/warrior ownzzzzz everyone in pvp :D


uhhh, what? Cleric can't be killed, but can't kill either unless he gets offering off and gets lucky. It's really not a solo pvp class.

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Corevalue wrote:
Zamu wrote:
Fighting as a cleric isn't bad either. A cleric/bard/warrior ownzzzzz everyone in pvp :D

What?


He shouldn't call the build by that but my bro has 10 warrior mastery for knockback, it's essential for pvp'ing with that kind of a char.

Pvp goes like this: Knock back -> heaven flash (opponent cannot move) -> offering, perhaps an absolute dmg spell or justice cross before/after offering. Works pretty good against nonranged/slow opponents. Anyways, like most int builds, clerics also require better than the "average" gear to be able to succeed in pvp.

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