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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:01 pm 
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1. Pure Int
2. Pure Str
3. Str hybrid
4. Int Hybrid

Please tell me the advantages of each one of them. I wanted to know more about these 4 builds in depth

What i think about the builds

1. Pure int - Can die easily but damage output is very high
2. Pure str - Can tank but damage output is not as high as Pure int
3. Str hybrid - I don't know
4. Int Hybrid - I don't know

Lol...i never even bother about hybrid, but the result from GNCWC gives me a good shock. Maybe i underestimated hybrids so please give me your views. No flaming of each other builds please

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HAHAHAHAHA STR HYRBID BLADER FTW!!!! :D


I had a str hybrid blader. (though everyone always tells me its RETARDED to so str hybrid.)

I was great in pvp against other bladers, always lost to glaviers, and nukers? meh....

...Of course...

...STR HYBRID=teh suxxorz. want to know anything in-depth about str hybrid? ask me.

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Sure can you elaborate more on str/hybrid. I wanted to know why people say it sucked so much

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because at lvl 31 my hp is about as high as my current lvl 21's. I have a lvl 21 pure str. with almost as much hp as my lvl 31 str hybrid.

Plus, as a STR hybrid, I don't have enough int or mp to do nukes.

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So i cant do as much dmg, and i cant tank quite as well as a pure str blader would.

Do you understand?


All's a int hybrid is, is a nuker who has 90% mag balance, not 100+. So they have a bit more hp than a pure nuker, and can do almost as much dmg. alot of ppl actually prefer int hybrid to pure int. But that's waht i've heard, I have NEVER made//used an int character.

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But i thought str hybrid has increases their int so that their imbue damage can be enhanced so that they don't rely too much on physical damage just in case the person is using armour?

And the strength hybrid build's video made here is quite interesting. He took 4 hits to kill yeti at lvl 56. But in PVP, i don't know

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But i thought str hybrid has increases their int so that their imbue damage can be enhanced so that they don't rely too much on physical damage just in case the person is using armour?

And the strength hybrid build's video made here is quite interesting. He took 4 hits to kill yeti at lvl 56. But in PVP, i don't know
Is that good? Cause i know nothing about yetis

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I don't know.

Yeti is lvl 59 (is it? i forgot) thus he is killing an orange mob. It took me 2 hits to kill a green mob (Don't ask me why because i use npc weapon)

I think it should be quite decent to be able to kill orange mob in 4 hits.

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yeah people say i suk since im str hybrid but stacie is a str hybrid and people say he rox. I kill my white mobs and orange mobs in about 2-3 attack skills (2-4 if u count imbue)

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lol i think the tournament was all hybrids cus we "under" estimate them. in my opinon...if their was a pure STR in the tourny.....the pure would of won, expecially if it was blade. INT will never dominate, they more like the ninjas of the game(attack u when u aint looking and run if they cant kill). STR will just stand their and keep on hiting/taking it. hybrid(int and str)......ur like some where between a mule and a cheerleader during a football match, ur just their to take up space -_-.



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about the yetis, theyre lvl 60.

my character is hybrid int. with my good armor on, my balance is up to 94%. naked its around 89. i added a wee bit too much to str, but thatll balance out at a higher lvl. from what ive seen and experianced, hybrid int vs. pure int at same lvl with similar equips, its pretty much 50-50. unless the hybrid hits a few good crits.


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if a str hybrid at 5x beat a lvl 6x monster in 4 hits then....Isnt that good?

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DragonTalon wrote:
if a str hybrid at 5x beat a lvl 6x monster in 4 hits then....Isnt that good?


51 that kills a 6x...thats awesome

59 that kills a 6x...not so impresive


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Well, one of eage's silk assistants is a 70 str hybrid (2:1) fire spear, and really, he ownz.

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Ice771x wrote:
about the yetis, theyre lvl 60.

my character is hybrid int. with my good armor on, my balance is up to 94%. naked its around 89. i added a wee bit too much to str, but thatll balance out at a higher lvl. from what ive seen and experianced, hybrid int vs. pure int at same lvl with similar equips, its pretty much 50-50. unless the hybrid hits a few good crits.


Wait yeti is 59 and devil yeti is 60.

Oh i forgot to add he made a total of 5 hits to kill 2 yeti. The first 2 hits are made to lure 2 of the yeti using flowing spear and a nuke. After that he use 1 nuke (I forgot the name but it looks like a meteorite) to bomb the 2 yeti. He then uses ghost book lvl 2/3 to knock down 2 yetis simultenously.

But he is using sox item though

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This is some blue i added (wearing garment)
with out those. i am currently with 63%str(4k+HP) and 81%int
(and i don had sos/som)>.<


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It's an int hybrid. Very good def, good balances, good damages.
But keep in mind he has a very, very good stuff : 70+ stats on gear.
Looking at the def, there is probably some SOS pieces too.

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fckn shit idk anything about endgame str hybrid but for lvls 20-40 they suxxorz.

sure, i beat alot of ppl in pvp, and even ppl higher lvl than me, but i also got owned by pure str fire glavies 2 lvls lower, and nukers 2 lvls lower.

yes i know the pure str fire glavier is pure str. we cape fight alot. he always wins. pots on pots off it dont matter.

the nuker i only fought once but i know him, and i know that, at the time, he was lvl 30, i was lvl 32.


ijust. dont like str hybrid bladers....

plus they take FOR-fckng-EVER to lvl. :(

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Vintar wrote:
It's an int hybrid. Very good def, good balances, good damages.
But keep in mind he has a very, very good stuff : 70+ stats on gear.
Looking at the def, there is probably some SOS pieces too.

:D all my stuff is only +3 no sos or som(too poor)
without any blue i am 60%+ str int80+%


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I just noticed his total balances are over 160%

WHAT IS THIS?????? I have only a total of 130% balances

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vulperin wrote:
I just noticed his total balances are over 160%

WHAT IS THIS?????? I have only a total of 130% balances

this is the power of hybrid ,when ur balance is over 85% it will take more stat to increase it,is the sro system that set it that way:)


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there is a word for that or rather a name

diminishing retuns


basicaly say's more isnt better

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fckn shit idk anything about endgame str hybrid but for lvls 20-40 they suxxorz.

sure, i beat alot of ppl in pvp, and even ppl higher lvl than me, but i also got owned by pure str fire glavies 2 lvls lower, and nukers 2 lvls lower.

yes i know the pure str fire glavier is pure str. we cape fight alot. he always wins. pots on pots off it dont matter.

the nuker i only fought once but i know him, and i know that, at the time, he was lvl 30, i was lvl 32.


ijust. dont like str hybrid bladers....

plus they take FOR-fckng-EVER to lvl. :(
now THAT i can agree on

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about the str hybrid killing yeti in 4 or 5 or whatever hits. you said he/she nukes them. thats not a str hybrid. if it is, thats one cracked out build if it has book 3 fire nuke.


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strange how my hybrid started owning at lvl 30 and hasent ever stoped and all your hybrids seem to suxxorz

i know it sounds cocky but you guy's suck !!!!
you ppl just need to wize up and use more skill when playing thats all

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Well since there's a 5 hour long update, I think I'll post my 2 cents about hybrids. Yes, I know I don't post very often but I read posts on SRF from time to time when i have nothing to do so please don't shrug me off, yet.

I'm a lvl 62 Str hybrid (2:1) Fire Archer. I wouldn't say I am fully farmed but my masteries are as follows: Archer - 62, Fire - 62, Ice - 48, Light 35. I'm not going to list out all my skills but all of the major skills in archer and fire are maxed out. My balances are at 91 for str and 47 for int. My stuff isn't pimped out so I'm betting the numbers could be slightly higher. I have roughly 8k HP and 5K MP.

Well, that does it for the stats about my Str hybrid char. I'm betting you want to know how well I do against other in PVP. I can kill pure Ints with 1 crit from AD book3. If not 1 hit, then add a quad shot in there. Pure Str Vs Str Hybrid = pot war or whoever gets the most crits wins. Hybrid Str vs Hybrid Str = whoever is the most farmed up char wins. Hybrid Str vs Hybrid Int = I still can 1 hit them with SB crit (that's if i get super lucky on my first attack, which is obivously with SB).

I was dueling with a friend of mine that I met on SRO. He's an archer, lvl 61 (we were both lvl 61 at the time) and he's more heavy on the int than I am (I've put about 10 lvls of int points into my char). Not once did he kill me legitamitely. I died once due to my wifi lag. Basically to sum everything up, any build is easy to beat except pure str. Bladers are just annoying with their blocks, the fight could go either way but bladers dont usually deal enough damage to me to kill me unless they crit all the time. I can pot through their KDs and chains. Pure str glaivers are probably the worst of them all. I have trouble killing them by myself. Let me reiterate, it's hard for me to kill them BY MYSELF. The game is not about killing somebody 1 on 1. Okay, well part of it is 1 on 1 because most of us are males and we want to display our greatness and all that mumbo jumbo but really, it's all about team work. The only way I can really lose a PVP is if the other person has an 8th deg weapon, but even at that, i was PVP'ing a lv 64+ with a lower than +3 64 bow and I could survive and it ended up being a pot war. Zerking on a lv 64++++ pure int is a certain death for them whether or not they get in first hit or not.

My Str Archer kills mobs relatively fast, 2 or 3 skills on soil or earth bugs depending on how many crits i get with my 60+5 crit 10 bow. I get about 20% every 90 minutes with GT. I'm told that is faster than pure Str builds. Anybody want to confirm that for me? Well, if you have any questions or want to comment and discuss, post below and we'll see what goes on. My opinion about hybrids is thus follows: at end-game, they will be the ones to beat.

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:P o yes ,one thing to take note of when you are pvp with other people,alway use a npc store weapon to fight with them.I had enough hearing other saying that my sword is blah blah blah thus i win against them :x


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I just noticed his total balances are over 160%

WHAT IS THIS?????? I have only a total of 130% balances

this is the power of hybrid ,when ur balance is over 85% it will take more stat to increase it,is the sro system that set it that way:)


Your words make me have half a mind to change to hybrid glaiver

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DragonTalon wrote:
if a str hybrid at 5x beat a lvl 6x monster in 4 hits then....Isnt that good?


yes ,
Im 50 and I 4hit yeti to , if its bad we both suck tho lols , but im sure it aint bad , im pretty sure we kick butt .
A good full int might be able to pull off a 3 hit on a yeti at lvl50 if he is chaining nukes but i doubt he could tank the yetis chains when trying to lols

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About the 160% total balances vs the 130% balances...I discussed this amongst my guildies and we think that physical balance has a higher % because physical damage is lower than magical damage. It wouldn't make sense if you had say 90% P balance and 70% M balance. 70% is way too high and would give you a huge advantage. I don't know the numbers exactly for pure buils but im thinking it's about 100% for the pure side and 30% for the other. If you are int hybrid, you will get about 60-75% P bal and 85-95% M bal, totalling up to some 160%. Don't get caught up on all those %'ages and if they add up to X amount that means it's better because it doesn't. You have to look at the whole picture. Int builds deal more dmg, but have lower hp and opposite for str builds. All builds have their pros and cons.

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