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 Post subject: Need help and advice on my Ice Nuker build
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:12 pm 
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ok I know people will say Ice nuke are weak and all that stuff or tellme to go fire/light... but i wont go fire that's for sure.... I want advice on my build now it look like this



all int

Ice maxed

imbue maxed (effect) well lvl 1 of last book for maxed effect
Shield maxed
slow lvl 1 (mobing)
Ice wall maxed
AoE freeze lvl 2 maxed (not sure if lvl3 book is better)
Nuke maxed
passive


Light
Imbu maxed all the way (my combat imbue)
Pierce maxed
Grass maxed
lion maxed
concentration maxed
nuke maxed
passive maxed

heurskal
soul maxed
ghost maxed
passive maxed
Fan book 2 (ok i,ll explain later)

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Shield wall book 2
passive



ok the main idea is to have a combat nuker, I don't want to stay away and nuke and when someone get me I die in one hit...

so what I was thinking about is

1 target = Ice nuke+ice imbue (more chance of freeze), then follow with light nuke for dmg and altern ice/light but always stay under ice imbue, so easier to run and stay safe

multiple target= Ice nuke+light imbue ,light nuke, stun (spear)

I've read that light imbueallow to transfer effect so ice would transfer (if it's an aoe maybe get more chance to apply) and stun would transfer.


when I can nuke form disctance I,ll sue my spear and when seomoen reahc me i,ll run (garnment+grass amxed) or teleport and switch to s/s for safer nuking


the thing aobut fan and shield wall that i,mnot sure is if it stack, I mean can i equip a shield, cats shield wall,equip a spear cast fan, then come back to shied and have stacking br? I know it doesn't last long but in duel or when ur in trouble with someone immune to ice it could help a bit




I think i,ll need around 230-240 sp for this build should i add some stuff? or any idea?



just one thing...



DONT TELL ME TO GO FIRE

I,ve been playing in many game, and always making twisted build, people were laughting at me and told me it wouldn,t work... but it always work...and twisted build are freaking funnier than cookiecutter...


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:28 pm 
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well I'm not gonna tell u to go fire, but I'll just tell you that the way Joymax made this game, fire is almost a neccessity sadly.
--Without fire, it is impossible to be ice immune
--Fire has the strongest imbue and nukes in the game
--Fire is a good way to get good mag defence.

For your ice nuker, I would actually probably use lightning imbue, since people are much more likely to become ice immune and lightning does good dmg + has a good effect. I would max the phys defence bonuses and nukes in ice tree. 8)

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well i might get some buff from fire, but I don't really want to nuke with fire tree :S it would take me too much sp to farm lol and I'm not using ticket :S

oh and 1 more thing can u actually fight nder ice wall? or it drian ur mana? from the description it seem to act like mana shield from WC :S


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I'm really not sure they've changed a lot of things with updates recently. It used to be that you could set up a wall with a certain amount of health to take 1 or more hits for u, but it took as long as a buff to set up. :roll:
Then they updated it so fire wall only absorbed magical dmg and ice only absorbed phys dmg. I don't use those skills so I wouldn't know :banghead:

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for a nuker, u only need to get teh wpn skill to lvl 1, cause they r all phy dmg


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user wrote:
for a nuker, u only need to get teh wpn skill to lvl 1, cause they r all phy dmg

nah wep skills up can be very useful if you have the sp.

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user wrote:
for a nuker, u only need to get teh wpn skill to lvl 1, cause they r all phy dmg


stop spreading wrong information please
weapon skill are one of the most important things to get even when you are a full int nuker
and about level 1 don`t take any weapon skill at all if you leave it on level 1 cause its then even more useless than no weapon skill at all

a combo will make more damage in faster time (multiple hits with imbue)
and in pvp you will need weapon skills or you will be useless. 3 or 4 nukes aren't enough to actually kill a tanker. you will need some weapon skill to make even more damage


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borat2 wrote:
user wrote:
for a nuker, u only need to get teh wpn skill to lvl 1, cause they r all phy dmg


stop spreading wrong information please
weapon skill are one of the most important things to get even when you are a full int nuker
and about level 1 don`t take any weapon skill at all if you leave it on level 1 cause its then even more useless than no weapon skill at all

a combo will make more damage in faster time (multiple hits with imbue)
and in pvp you will need weapon skills or you will be useless. 3 or 4 nukes aren't enough to actually kill a tanker. you will need some weapon skill to make even more damage



so, I should get soul and ghost spear maxed? what about flying dragon?

anyone know how fanning spear work since the last update?, does the block ratio increase with lvl? can I use the 3 book at the same time? or I have to cycle them?


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for the fan spear, you dont twirl it or w/e anymore, its just like the shield skill now, only its blue, only it doesnt block, just decreases the damage takin ... just like ice wall, only in a heuksal skill

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wall and fan dont stack.

however this combination is great against int kd / stab players
because ice wall prevent getting knocked or stun
and fortunately this ability does still stack with fan,
however only that the wall will no longer take dmg when the fan is.
you will still take physical dmg on hp when your opponent is a hybrid.


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I wont tell you to go fire, I'll just say have fun nuking for half of what fire nukers do.


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Dont forget to get ur chain series maxxed out... though u need lots of SP for it... but real gud buffs on PVP and been a int nuker... its worth a deal... :roll:

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I'm going to tell you because it needs to be told. Don't use ice, use fire.

Cold imbue final book does 286-429 damage
Fire imbue final book does 351-584 damage
Lightning .... 278-515 damage

Cold nuke (book 2) does a max of 351-584 damage
Fire nuke (book 2) does a max of 548-913 damage
Lightning (book 2) does .............. 483-859 damage

Unless you are REALLY bad with math you can see that cold is a BAD idea.

I'm not counting the effects of cold, fire or lightning as you can be immune to them all.

Cold actually has the fewest skills that you need. If I were dropping any tree off of my build it would be cold.


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