Nuker Build Question

Aizor · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 40

Hi i've got two questions about this build ( Pure Int ) :

1. What is The Best Choice in you opinion (in Weapon masteries) :

going (Sword/Shield) >> High Defence & Low Damage

goin (Spear) >> Low Defence(But There is HP passive) & High Damage

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2. Including the previuos question and force skills:

going : one weapon tree + Fire + Light + Cold

going : the two weapom trees + Fire + Light

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i've read the Guides but still i didnt get the answer of these questions

thnx

borat2 · **Posted:** Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:30 pm

Aizor wrote:

Hi i've got two questions about this build ( Pure Int ) :

1. What is The Best Choice in you opinion (in Weapon masteries) :

going (Sword/Shield) >> High Defence & Low Damage

goin (Spear) >> Low Defence(But There is HP passive) & High Damage

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2. Including the previuos question and force skills:

going : one weapon tree + Fire + Light + Cold

going : the two weapom trees + Fire + Light

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i've read the Guides but still i didnt get the answer of these questions

thnx

that is why you wont get an answer
it is just a choice both builds are good depends what you like more

go to http://www.youtube.com search silkroad pvp and try making a choice yourself

JackB4u3r · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 1115 **Location:** Sarajevo

Aizor wrote:

Hi i've got two questions about this build ( Pure Int ) :

1. What is The Best Choice in you opinion (in Weapon masteries) :

going (Sword/Shield) >> High Defence & Low Damage

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2. Including the previuos question and force skills:

going : the two weapom trees + Fire + Light

thnx

np

Aizor · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 40

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that is why you wont get an answer
it is just a choice both builds are good depends what you like more

OK got another question >

The Nuke damage (mag damage) from a sword >> is it less than the damage caused from a Spear ?

i mean is the difference between sword and spear the Phy. damage only ?

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and i heard that (Sword/Shield) is more appropriate for hybird int build (1:2)

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going (Sword/Shield) >> High Defence & Low Damage

going : the two weapom trees + Fire + Light

hi ,

if you are going sowrd/shield why would you need the Heuksal Mastery ..
isnt that a waste of SP ?

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Thanx for replying

cin · **Posted:** Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:08 am

how about heuks/fire/light/force?

im workin on an int now and thinking of raising force mastery aswell. is that smart or does it suck since i almost never see force chars

Shimohime · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 788 **Location:**

Aizor wrote:

OK got another question >

The Nuke damage (mag damage) from a sword >> is it less than the damage caused from a Spear ?

Yes, sword deals far less damage than spear. However, a sword + shield provides much more defense.

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and i heard that (Sword/Shield) is more appropriate for hybird int build (1:2)

I personally think the opposite...

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Thanx for replying

Stress · **Posted:** Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:43 pm

Play S&S for full INT. Use sword both for grinding and PvP. If you want spear, make a hybrid INT.

Chesk this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIkZOEIBcNs

samurailos · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 19 **Location:** JA

Lol i was gonna check out that vid, then i saw its a heaven guy, heaven guild can suk donkey barlz, anyway i'll give sum advice.

Sword and shield, gives u more def but the dmg vs spear dmg is like this.

eg a lvl 45 spear does as much as a lvl 48 sword, a spear is like the next lvl wep upgrade when compared vs sword interms of mag dmg specs so overall spear will always do more dmg a +5 spear is better than +7 sword in dmg but lack of defence leaves a spear nuker to rely on ice wall and firewall, which works very well in pvp or job war not that a sword nuker cant get fire wall and ice wall also but spear dmg will take out the enemy way faster plus they got knockback and stun, on the other hand sword+shield, block can save u alot, and u have kd +stab, which in the end a kd+ 3 stabs followed by nukes, usually kills the opponent. and u also have castle which helps out alot and i mean alota nd u can always get heuk mastery over ice for the extra hp, which u really dont need much, anyway gd luck, hope this helps somewhat.

Hypocrisy · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 26 **Location:**

My opinion: spear till lv 52 even if u are pure int for faster leveling. I would take 2 weapon masteries (bicheon/heuksal) Bicheon for higher lvls (+def,+kd and stabs in pvp). Heuksal coz of higher dmg. Really good to grind and +HP coz of the Heuksal passive (u need HP so musch when ur pure int). No ice.

Everything depends to what u like. This is just my opinion.

Aizor · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 40

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I personally think the opposite...

me too

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how about heuks/fire/light/force? Smile

im workin on an int now and thinking of raising force mastery aswell. is that smart or does it suck since i almost never see force chars

personally i dont think Force tree is that much useful

may be upgrade it till you get reviver >> ( Out of kindness

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Play S&S for full INT. Use sword both for grinding and PvP. If you want spear, make a hybrid INT.

What is S&S

and i'm now totally confused >> some ppl say pure int hold spear and other say the opposite ..

but i kind of convinced of the opposite

since hybird builds have some point in HP state so they dont have to worry about blocking that much .. so spear it is

and pure int builds HPs is way down so they need the blocking .. so sword it is .

thnx for replying

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Lol i was gonna check out that vid, then i saw its a heaven guy, heaven guild can suk donkey barlz, anyway i'll give sum advice.

Sword and shield, gives u more def but the dmg vs spear dmg is like this.

eg a lvl 45 spear does as much as a lvl 48 sword, a spear is like the next lvl wep upgrade when compared vs sword interms of mag dmg specs so overall spear will always do more dmg a +5 spear is better than +7 sword in dmg but lack of defence leaves a spear nuker to rely on ice wall and firewall, which works very well in pvp or job war not that a sword nuker cant get fire wall and ice wall also but spear dmg will take out the enemy way faster plus they got knockback and stun, on the other hand sword+shield, block can save u alot, and u have kd +stab, which in the end a kd+ 3 stabs followed by nukes, usually kills the opponent. and u also have castle which helps out alot and i mean alota nd u can always get heuk mastery over ice for the extra hp, which u really dont need much, anyway gd luck, hope this helps somewhat.

i feel that your encouraging using sword

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really your post helped me out alot thnx

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My opinion: spear till lv 52 even if u are pure int for faster leveling. I would take 2 weapon masteries (bicheon/heuksal) Bicheon for higher lvls (+def,+kd and stabs in pvp). Heuksal coz of higher dmg. Really good to grind and +HP coz of the Heuksal passive (u need HP so musch when ur pure int). No ice. Smile

Everything depends to what u like. This is just my opinion. Razz

i'm actually against the two weapon masteries idea .. i think its a waste of SP

SO if i intend to go sword/shield as basic

Sword + Fire + Light

and just the cold buffs

?

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But what do you all think is better ( The Knockback & Stun ) or ( KD+stab)

:roll:

Thanx for your replies

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:.:.: · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 223 **Location:**

get both kd+stab and knockback+stun
getting ice just for 92 phy def its dumb
it wont save u life
at 80 92 phy def is a joke, getting a entire tree just cuz of this buff is even worse
and dont go hibrid if u want sword, hibrid have less damage than full int, sword has less damage than spear, if u combine hibrid and sword u have almost less damage then a glaiver and u wont kill nothing
if u want hibrid spear its the only weapon u should use

juntakashi · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 751

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What is S&S

sword and shield

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some ppl say pure int hold spear

well at lower lvl u wun feel the difference so pure int spear is actualli ok...play the game in a way u like..u can always add str pt bac in the char in higher lvl to make it hybrid...
but the CORRECT or rather most effective builds are always hybrid int spear, pure int S&S, pure str bow etc.
(explanation wise its bcoz spear has higher mag dmg no shield so need more str pt, S&S has block but lower dmg so need more int pt to be dmg etc. )

Regarding Ice tree phy def vs. Spear passive extra HP
i asked b4 in the forum n gt some feedback hope it helps, i was convinced to go spear passive (less SP needed, realli sick of SP farming

)

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=33574

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i'm actually against the two weapon masteries idea .. i think its a waste of SP

SO if i intend to go sword/shield as basic

Sword + Fire + Light

and just the cold buffs

if u wanna go dual weapon, go read guides on int dual weapon build, it helps, and if u going dual weapon, u shld only get 2 force masteries (fire, light)...hving to up 4 masteries will already be a handful in SP farming

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But what do you all think is better ( The Knockback & Stun ) or ( KD+stab)

once again, in 1 v 1 i dun thk it matters both are gd...
but in group battle , u have to rmb KD ONLY can be att by Stab
Stun can be att by anybody thats all

hope tis helps[/quote]

Aizor · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 40

OK i'm comvinced

Bicheon , Heuksal (passive) , Fire , Light

Pure Int

right

i'm working on it right now

Thanks alot juntakashi and :.:.: for replying and your help

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juntakashi · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 751

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OK i'm comvinced

Bicheon , Heuksal (passive) , Fire , Light

Pure Int

right

i'm working on it right now

Thanks alot juntakashi and :.:.: for replying and your help

np

exactli same build as me...and ur spear passive lvl can lag behind ur fire / light / sword mastery abit...

Aizor · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 40

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np
Wink exactli same build as me...and ur spear passive lvl can lag behind ur fire / light / sword mastery abit...

yeah thnx ,, and you have 9k sp lvl 16 i got to say wow !

i'm lvl 9 and thats the gap .. and made about 350 sp now :cry:

btw is Eldorado server the lowest server in acc ..

cuz i'm sick of getting this msg

around 5:00 pm and 9:00 pm (GMT) all the servers are crowded and there is now way to log in specially Babel server

thnx again juntakashi

Ashikiheyun · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 1821 **Location:** CMA

Wanna see the best example of a duel pure int build? Check out This vid And anything from Embodiment really.

cin · **Posted:** Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:39 am

im leveling on spear to 1hit farm the sp needed for my nukes on 30-32. for leveling first levels and farming sp the spear is fine cause the monsters arent that strong.
for pvp or for high level i will switch to sword shield but for now spear dmg works fine for me i kill monsters mostly before they touch me

juntakashi · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 751

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yeah thnx ,, and you have 9k sp lvl 16 i got to say wow !

np
well...soon u will be like "wow" at urself how much SP u hv farmed at lvl 16 as well...a pure int need to farm ALOT...by saying alot i realli mean alot LOL...9k is just enough to last me till lvl 30 where i get fire + light nukes and at lvl 32 i need to farm again (at tis time will be even more,20k - 30k? hvnt calculated yet)

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i'm lvl 9 and thats the gap .. and made about 350 sp

well enjoy the game b4 lvl 16 :roll:

at lvl 16 u will feel that pain of SP farming :shock:

i din farm like the whole 9k just within lvl 16... i died 50 X 3 = 150 times to delvl whenever i reach lvl 17 and tts not fun at all (50 times tk abt 30 min if u tele to dw n die to earth ghost )

Eldorado is already 1 of the least populated server...i think

Aizor · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 40

actually i'm in Pain of the sp farming right now

i farm with S&S

and dont have any skills cuz i want to keep the 9 lvl gap ( i'm lvl 9 btw

)

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and i kind of feel the you hate sp farming questions here !

but may i ask some :roll:

In farming (exactly lvl 9) (Pure Nuker Build - if thats matter)

1. Do i farm with armor or garment ?

2. Farm with S&S or Glavie or Bow ?

3. Do i have to keep the 9 lvl gap till the end of the farming ?

4. if i'm using Bow to farm >> Do i have to develop the Bow skills even if that is not my Build

Thnx

juntakashi · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 751

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actually i'm in Pain of the sp farming right now

well u will lvl up pretty fast even if u keep a 9 gap at low lvl esp 1-12...at 16 u will pray that u dun lvl up so fast bcoz lvl up 1 time = dying 50 times to de lvl

so the pain hasnt even begun :banghead:

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and dont have any skills cuz i want to keep the 9 lvl gap ( i'm lvl 9 btw

actualli u dun hv 2 keep a 9 gap fr lvl 1-15....eg. when u r lvl 10, u can up all mastery u wanna get to lvl 5 (5 gap) so u can get ur imbue and at lvl 12 u can up mastery to lvl 7 and dun touch it anymore until u SP farm fin ...
remember: ur aim is to farm at lvl 16 (wif soX gear) so u wanna get to lvl 16 fast and dun waste too much time at lvl 1-15 trying to farm SP (which is not effective w/o soX weapon)

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i kind of feel the you hate sp farming questions here

well i hate sp farming ONLY not the questions..

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1. Do i farm with armor or garment ?

hmm its up to you...armour = less HP pots more MP pots...garment = less MP pots but more HP pots
i used armour bcoz i dun wanna be raped by 5-6 bandits and die while fighting giant
(bandit den spawning rate is amazing and wif a small space, u can b easily crowded out by 5-6 bandits at 1 time)
but ultimately at higher lvl u will wear armour or protector...at lower lvl below 20 it doesnt realli matter much

2. Farm with S&S or Glavie or Bow ?

Bow if u can a cheap soX 1...but sadly i hvnt seen 1 so far as all the 16 soX bows are amazingly overpriced (6 million??? :shock:

WOW mayb they noe abt desperate SP farmers too)
Bow will save u time where u hardly realli moves
i will recommend u farm on archers if u get a bow..but if wif a spear (nt glaive, u are pure int and glaive is a str weapon), i thk u shld farm on bandits instead (juz personal opinion coz archer will nt come to u to att but bandits will, so to make use of the shorter range disadvantage of spear...and bandit are white mob so they give more SP per kill )
Eldorado soX spear sells only for 1 million regularly

so decide urself
PS: i farmed on badits wif SOS S&S bcoz i bought it at some noob bargain price tt i simply cannot pass up

3. Do i have to keep the 9 lvl gap till the end of the farming ?

u hv to plan urself...i calculated wif the SP calculator that i need 9k sp until lvl 30...i can 0 gap fr 16-30 and then farm again at lvl 30 (but i will, mayb keeping a 3-4 gap just to get a bit more SP)
no point realli keeping a 9 lvl gap w/o a soX weapon in normal lvling up i believe...just keep 3,4,5,6 gap is fine and get to the next farming lvl fast (wif a soX weapon)...tis is more effective in getting SP

4. if i'm using Bow to farm >> Do i have to develop the Bow skills even if that is not my Build

yes...but c'mon...lvl bow/spear skills fr lvl 1-7 + learning 1 or 2 skills will not cost u that great amt of SP (less than 20, which u can farm in like 5-10 min? )
u dun realli hv to de lvl the bow skill...just leave it....
Hope tis helps

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