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 Post subject: Need help on hybrid bow
PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:17 am 
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Int heavy build using bow. After reading a few threads around, it seems that fire deals more damage. Currently i am using ice/lightning. I thought about using fire as well, but i know i will not have enough mastery as when i'm lvl 70, bow skill 70 masteries. Let say i have 3 forces ice, light and fire, it will be 70x3= 210. The cap for mastery is 300. Any suggestion which force should i take?

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cold if your going INT, you can slow them down from coming to you

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well, still using cold now. wondering if fire will do the job better? :?
or should i just go with 3 forces? ice for status, light for buff, fire for dmg. will it be ok to get all 3? currently having 2 forces and my total mastery reached 117 already...

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its better to just get two

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thanks alot :)

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people are saying that auto-pot kills cold, but i find this to be untrue. as an int build, and as an archer, you're ging to want to keep your foe away from you as long as possible. even if it's only fir a momeny, cold WILL slow him down.

fire DOES do more dmg. but it's up to you which is more important to you. do you nuke? if so, go fire. if not (which you should, IMHO), go cold.

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Well maby i can help you a bit since im also a Heavy int hybrid archer lvl 44 now. I have to say that this is a build that requires a lot of sp farming but i found that its extremely good vs pve and good vs pvp. Here you want to go with the cold as main force since the monsters can not use pils and they will usualy die before they get close to you. I recomend you max your imbune and all the defence related skills of the cold. But as everyone knows cold does little dam.. this is when the lightening tree comes to scene. You will need to lvls this too... the most important skill here is the magic dam % increase.. 15% more magic damage is a looot for an int build... so you should get this. Right now i have my 2nd book of magic dam % increase maxed but im planing to max the 3rd too.. its up to you. Nuke is nice too but its extremely ineficient when it comes to mp consumption... I hope i clarify some of your doubts.. if not contact me in game and i will explain you a bit more . TheRaven


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Well, i understand what u were trying to say... I am using ice/lightning too. I have the buff as well. But it seemed that i am a little weak when it comes to dmg. Previously i tried pvp. I went against a sword user and it took me quite some time to kill him(his level should be lower, btw i'm lvl 30). Then i tried fighting pure int (spear, lvl 30 without nukes) and i must say, the cold doesnt seemed to work too well in pvp. I have to use lightning imbue to finish him. So i was wondering if fire will do the job better? But undeniable, the cold effect does give me more time to use pots. I always use ice in pve as u said. Actually i do have buff for phy dmg from fire skill(book 1). Bow is unique as we know, so will the buff for phy dmg help? Since my stats have both str and int? Is it recommended to just learn a little buff from fire if i continue with ice/light?

Thx for the suggestions :)

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Any higher lvl that used almost the same build as mine, mind telling me the pros and cons for this build in pvp and pve? Briefly will do.
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most people give up on bow builds in PvP because they tend not to fare well... but there are a few good ones out there... and i doubt they want you to know how they did their build though.

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Freedom-Fighta wrote:
most people give up on bow builds in PvP because they tend not to fare well... but there are a few good ones out there... and i doubt they want you to know how they did their build though.


Erm.... My bow ownz pvp &_&.

Bows tend to do more damage pvp than a glaiver and blader. Just dont have the stun/blocking stuff.

Anyways.

Pure strength. Anti devil. 4 Arrow. Ice imbue. Fire/Lit sub ( Parry / Damage ) = good fight.

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int/bow is a really bad idea...int is for one thing only...nukes
int/bow will not deal as much dmg as a nuker.....so what would be the point of going int with anything other than being a nuker?


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i read a few threads before, saying pure int bow ain't too good. that is y i chose hybrid (intel heavy) thinking of balancing the cons of this build. currently i am doing quite well in grinding. but when it comes to pvp, as u all said, i do suffer a lot of disadvantages. but i just wanna try it out, since my dmg now is not bad. any high lvl int heavy bow user care to drop a few words?

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katinka wrote:
int/bow is a really bad idea...int is for one thing only...nukes
int/bow will not deal as much dmg as a nuker.....so what would be the point of going int with anything other than being a nuker?


duno where you're getting this from, I've seen plent of INt Bows fare well.. Int swords men, hybrid int swordsman.. all doing very well in PvP and War.

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RaiKiRii wrote:
katinka wrote:
int/bow is a really bad idea...int is for one thing only...nukes
int/bow will not deal as much dmg as a nuker.....so what would be the point of going int with anything other than being a nuker?


duno where you're getting this from, I've seen plent of INt Bows fare well.. Int swords men, hybrid int swordsman.. all doing very well in PvP and War.


u know what i think...i think ur a low lvl noob who don't know what he's talking about...u've seen int bow fare well?...at what lvl? 30ish 20ish?...lol
u should get to lvl 50+ and then talk...oh..and u've seen int sword doing well?...well duh...that is a nuker...it is fairly simple..if u have a functional brain...int bow vs int nuker/sword/spear......same hp but nuker deal more dmg ....both range....so..answer me this...why would int bow make any sense?...come on smart guy come on
don't post again raikirri...until u are high lvl and have experience on silkroad...don't play for a couple days and think u know what ur talking about...noobs telling noobs don't make them better..so shhh..and just read..ok..thanx


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um yea, he posted that last week.

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tell me man, where are you getting your info?
korean forums?
or have you had every single build in the game.

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u know what i think...i think ur a low lvl noob who don't know what he's talking about.

and i think you're a narrow sighted noob. whats the point of this?

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..u've seen int bow fare well?...at what lvl? 30ish 20ish?...lol

~lvl 50. Int Bow is a support character, and very good with PvE. not everyone plays the game for pvp man.

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d u've seen int sword doing well?...well duh...that is a nuker...it is fairly simple..if u have a functional brain..


I wasn't talking about a nuker. There are other builds out there that do fine if you opened your eyes once in awhile.

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.int bow vs int nuker/sword/spear

when was i ever comparing the 2. i was telling the man that his build was fine. he never specified PvP, PvE, or whatever so i didn't suggesti it.
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don't post again raikirri...until u are high lvl and have experience on silkroad...don't play for a couple days and think u know what ur talking about...noobs telling noobs don't make them better..so shhh..and just read..ok..thanx

you know what . maybe i should. the kind of people like you are ticking me off daily in this forum. learn how to argue instead of flame.

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katinka, Bow doesn't have as high of magical dmg as sword or spear, not to mention that the Bow's charge-up physical dmg moves can be stopped with a stun or freeze. It doesn't take a high level to know something like that. Just because some people fare well in PvP with a bow user doesn't mean everyone will. For all we know, you're just a cape user killing newbies.


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thank you very much for the oppinion, but as said, bow aint really meant for int. restarted with a better char now. ty everyone :)

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lol raikirrri or w/e..
ur acting as if getting info from korean forums for silkroad is a bad thing...lol

first off..it's a korean made game...2nd they been playing it longer 3rd they play more hours a day than anyone..they are crazy about these kinda games....4th..koreans aint dumb 5th koreans produce some of the best gamers in the word for all games..

so getting info from korean forums would be a good thing.

unless ofcoarse..you WANT to suck at games...ya...yaa..i think that's what's going on here..

imagine this scenerio ...u are a int or hybrid bowmen..and u are standing beside me...an ally nuker....and we are both hitting the enemy...
ok let's see what's going on here....oh...the nuker is doing ton more dmg than u.....oh wow..wow..this guy we're hitting is so strong he come up and hit both us and we both die....cuz we are not full str ...gee...we are both range support doing dmg..except u are hitting him for so low dmg...hmm

may I ask ...why are u a int/hybrid bowmen?
u see..nuker have low hp but do hi dmg...
ur bowmen have low hp also..but dont do hi dmg..
i forgot ..did u say?..why to build a int/hybrid bowmen?

oh ya..int/hybrid bow will do fine ...any build can do fine.....but what is fine to you?

ur mentality is like this...
i'm going to buy a ferrari and drive it 30miles an hour for the rest of it's life....

if ppl actually care for the game and want to do well...they will listen to me...if they don't give a crap...and build a "whatever" character..and just be fine...they will take ur advice...
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Hinamorii wrote:
katinka, Bow doesn't have as high of magical dmg as sword or spear, not to mention that the Bow's charge-up physical dmg moves can be stopped with a stun or freeze. It doesn't take a high level to know something like that. Just because some people fare well in PvP with a bow user doesn't mean everyone will. For all we know, you're just a cape user killing newbies.


dude what are u saying...i'm on ur side...int bow sux man...lol...


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