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 Post subject: full str blader.... asking for hybrid help
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:49 pm 
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okay im level 20
i have a pure str fire blader

what i noticed is that i use about 4x as many mp pots as i do hp pots.

im always low on mp because i use skills alot.. and they are starting to get more expensive...

anyways my question is...

if i *do the math* and figure out what i would have to do to my stat points in order to it to be like i started out as a str 2:1 would it be worth it?

does a str 2:1 BLADE user do more damage than a pure str blade user?

im not really worried about how much damage i take... cause i bearly take any at all... but more damage would be nice... along with not having to use a pot every five skills...

so recap:

does 2str : 1int BLADER do more damage than a pure str BLADER?

and

should i start going str 2:1 hybrid or should i just buy a bunch of pots and deal with it?

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i am a 2 str 1 int hybrid atm at lvl 31 it seems pretty good, and i dont think i ever lost in pvp yet against my level lol, and i do pvp alot. thats of course in no pots i never lost but if pots most of the time i win because i take up less pots n they eventually run out or i dish out enough dmg.
The thing is that you wont see urself doin much dmg unlike those ppl with spears doing 800-1000 dmg while ur doing 150-200 dmg. But i think of it as this way if the enemy iis slowed/frozen i can get more hits in, so overall i wud being more atks=more dmg overall and in the same time taking less dmg. Now fighting with pots is the hard part for a ice blader because they dont do a big enough dmg to kill the opponent b4 he pots
so when i fight sum1 while im theiving for example i usually chain him down to get his health down at around 1k and itll stay at 1k since u keeep on hitting him n he keeps potting up, when it gets around there i usually do my 2 sword attacks that hits the hardest, for me its the kockdown skill whihc hits around 500ish and the sword thrust (if not lvl 27 yet) the stab on ground will do, and i usually get a critical on one of those attacks which deals 800-900 dmg which is enough to kill him (be sure to have ur critical at 4 or more in ur wpn ul depend on it when u thief or defend urself from one) Another good plus about the ice blader is that its veery hard to kill. You dont even have to worry if they do a critical on you because right after they do theyere slowed/frozen which makes em too slow to finish the last blow n ull be potted bakup to good health. I dont know yet if a pure str ice blader hits harder than a hybrid blader because im not high enough of a level yet. but for a ice blader i think u will notice the dmg earlier than a hybrid because im thinking that a hybrid at a high lvl will do sum good dmg when both str n int are over 100.


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if you go 2:1 from now you will lower your damage basicly. Pure is better IMHO I think hybrids can go suck on my big toe. yes there are some goods hybrids but I have yet to see someone pwn the shit out of everyone with a hybrid. It might be nice to play it your way , with more MP but for me nothing feels better than beat the crap out of someone which goes great as a pure str.

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if you hang on with the pure str your mana will increase gradually so oyu can stick in combo's fairly ok, set autpot at a good % and it doesnt waste or run out.

being a pure of either end you're always going to overuse on the pots of your lower stat, at the low 20's cash flow is crap, it was ahrd for me too, could barely afford pots and stuff.

now, though, i have a mil in my pocket and put 2mil towards the guild levelling. nice an easy ^^

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actually u wont be lowering your overall attack, jus mix everythign with the imbue jus because u put 1 in int every time u lvl doesnt mean itll go to waste itll add to ur majic attack, so if u use blade+the imbue itll hit as much as a pure str, i am lvl 31 atm in venice and i dualed a pure str ice blader his sword was a +5 and mine was a +3 and he wore armor while i wore garment and gues swhat i still whooped his ass in no pots, but in pots it was a tie because ice blader vr. ice blader with pots is unstopple on 1v1 its who ever has most pots. and if u think his skill masteries were lower than mine he had the same atks as me the flower sword dance n chains. At lvls 1-25 the hybrid i think is very good at pvp but when u get to lvls 30-40 its about the same as pure builds because pure builds start to show there strengths by than (nukes etc.) but at higher lvls i think that a hybrid will show its strength, plus its very versitile.


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Being lv 5x and pure str/fire/blade, I will tell you this. For each mob I killed, I consumed 1 large Mp pot. And 1 large Hp pot for each 3 kills.

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my advice is you shouldn't even bother lvling up any of your attack skill other then getting it in the first place, it's like imbue, ( remember this is for early lvls, and peopel with no back up chars, another word newies with empty pocket ) you really should only get ONE lvl of the skills you need for ATTACK skill ( this does not go for buff, cos buff helps in every way and you don't use them 1/10000 as much as attack skill, in fact lol you buff once sit down get your mp full then go rape, so yea my advice is to train with just lvl 1 of all attack skill till you can actually afford to buy pots ( lvl 30 + safe side, lvl 25+ if you want no money at all ), and also this is from someone from the future, i was like you hoping for more mp cos my max mp is so capped and low i can barely use a few skill ( in fact i use a glavie, which uses WAY more mp then any blade/sword attack skill ) hmm yes you can more max mp, as so you can use more attack skills, but this is only the first match, soon as your mp goes to nothing ( i presume you use auto mp pot ) your mp will only regen to hmmm 60%? full i'm talking bout, you'll never put your auto pot to liek 70% right? only about 35% ( this is for me cos all my dam skill uses 200+ mp, i'm only lvl 30 also btw ) you'll keep your mp auto pot at 35%, i have 4:1 str/int ratio, right now i THINK i have 1.3k mp if i didn't get the int i think i'll have 1k? i dun know, but i know it wasn't worth it, especially if you intend to go str/int ( str base hybrid ) seriously there's no meaning to str base hybrid, the meaing to hybrid means using massive nuke as well as tiny wepaon attack, but since your str built , isn't nuke useless to you? don't think , the answer is yes. so what i'm saying is, if your gonna get int, the only thing helpnig is extending your max mp digit, NOTHING MORE where as the down side = less physical damage, less max hp, less hp regen ( maybe not so important ) anyway less physical balance, you know what you should do right? make the right chose!











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thanks for the replys guys....

have you all ever been flammed for not using proper grammer
like paragraphs, endents, etc?

sheesh i have a headache now...

but thanks for the input


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:48 am 
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dun know, but i know it wasn't worth it, especially if you intend to go str/int ( str base hybrid ) seriously there's no meaning to str base hybrid, the meaing to hybrid means using massive nuke as well as tiny wepaon attack, but since your str built , isn't nuke useless to you? don't think , the answer is yes. so what i'm saying is, if your gonna get int, the only thing helpnig is extending your max mp digit, NOTHING MORE where as the down side = less physical damage, less max hp, less hp regen ( maybe not so important ) anyway less physical balance, you know what you should do right? make the right chose!


lol a havy str hybrid is not useless n i am one n i dont use the extra 1 int in every lvl jus to boost my mp, it adds to my majic atk so my imbues will be stronger than a pure str imbue, if i mix my imbue with my atk im pretty sure it hits harder than most pure str bladers, and i also use it for nuking defense because sum dual nukers can kill a pure str glaive in 2-3 hits and they usually win in no pots starting from range, if u can nuke smart. and yes it gives u less physical balance but not all blade atks are 250% jus get the combos they are under 150% i think and with good imbue it may out damage a pure str blader, and if ther is no meaning to str heavy hybrids than play me in venice, i can beat any build u send to me at my lvl, and that will be my 2nd time i only lost in pvp in venice


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and you can also nuke with str heavy hybrids my lightning nuke can do like 800 dmg to a person wearing garment so i wudnt think 800 is not muhc : )


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