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 Post subject: Glaive with Fire//Lightning & a few questions
PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:24 pm 
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Hey guys. I'm a lvl 10 with a Glavie. I'm trying to SP Farm, and it's taking forever. Anywho, I was wondering if I should go for Fire or Lightning. I was going for a 2 STR // 1 INT ratio. But right now, I'm just focusing on STR because I can't use any magic skills (well, I can but I'm SP farming so I'm not). Which would be better, lightning or fire? And which skills should I avoid? (and which should I avoid for the Glavie?)

Also, I have another question. What is the max lvl your skill can be? Like after you purchase a skill with your skill points, you can upgrade the lvl. What is the maximum upgrade on one of those skills?


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Fire is good for glaive str. users, it's what most glaive players I see using. About the skills, they have lvl9 mastery easch.


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You should get your fire mastery up to level 5 and get the top fire and the top spear as well, get those at level 5 and then just leave them until 15, then upgrade them each level by 1, that leaves you with a 9 level difference for maximum skill exp, that's stupidly excessive though and will make levelling seem like a nightmare.

You only really need a 3 or 4 level gap to farm though, I'm on level 25 and I have over 900 sp saved up.

Without some magic skills you'll get killed easily.

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If you want enough SP to last past your 30's, don't give up SP farming for a long, long, LONG time. Trust me. :P I had more than enough SP for 3 different skilltrees right up to my early 30's. As suddenly as two levels later, I became SP starved, and have been ever since. I was quite stunned by it infact.

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if your a glaive user, the only magic you should be touching is fire, and solely for the imbue at lower levels, and the buff that boosts physical damage.

at later levels no magic is needed other then the buff to help damage.

of course you cna look into healing, the owrld is starved of people willing to ressurect.

if you want to go lightning , i would advise switching to spear and focusing on int per level.

however, it is your choice to do what you like, enjoy!

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900sp isn't alot. I did 9 lvl difference from the start, until I reached about lvl 17, then i reduced to 7 or 8 lvl difference(I can't remember which). I now have almost 4300sp, but now I find myself regretting that I sp farmed so early. What good is it to sp farm so much when you don't even need it yet? You still have lots of weapons to upgrade quick, so try to reduce sp farming to a minimal at lower lvls, and of course I don't mean 0 lvl difference! That's TOO little sp. Just keep a 5 lvl difference. You should have enough for the earlier lvls if you keep that difference. You'll be increasing lvls faster, so you'll be getting those higher lvl weapons faster, and so you'll kill faster and get xp faster. You should try sp farming later on when you're lvl 20. Still, don't keep a 9 lvl difference for now, until maybe you're lvl 40-50. Those are the lvls where you really need lots of sp, and you won't have lots of better weapons to look forward to. Until then, a 5 lvl difference should be good enough.

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Yeah, I've been getting killed alot. Twice by the same NPC thief in three minutes. I got resurrected, the thief came back and killed me. -sobs- I also get raped by those gigant tigers and bandits.

Okay, lemme get this straight. The 9 difference is between the mastery lvl of the let's say weapon or magic right? NOT THE TOTAL MASTERY LVL. So Black_Mamba, you're saying I should go ahead and get the Wolf Bite Spear and the River fire force, and don't touch anything else until I'm lvl 15 to have a 9 difference level. But I thought the Wolf Bite Spear is a crappy skill because the Soul spear-Move is alot more powerful. What about the Dancing demon spear? Is that a crappy skill too?


Does Fire have a nuke technique? (One that shoots out some kind of flame thing?) I kinda wanted to go with lightning, cause I wanted to use that Grass Walk dealie. :D Also, I see alot of high lvl people with cool magic moves that makes them leap and do flips and stuff. I want to use magic too, not just strength.

I already went full STR with the glavie. I'm now at lvl 11 with a mastery lvl of fire and glavie at 2. I'm not sure if I can go back and go full INT with spear now.

Now what about Glavie and Cold?

Ahh... so many questions..


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It's not too late to change my weapon and/or force is it..

I've only used like two skill points on Glavie and Fire each.

I wanted to go for a Hybrid approach. But since I can't use any magic (Well, I can but I'm SP Farming), I'm just putting all of my stat points (or whatever you call it when you push "C") into my STR.


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Sp farming isnt easy with glavie. i think i got arounf 1.7k SP and im up to lv 19 in the mean time.

I invested in fire and strength and its helped me solo 2 giant whites and one giant orange tiger all at once with minimum pot help :D

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Well since you've already gone for full strength, GO FOR IT. You won't get owned so much when you're a pure. And you can learn everything if you want to, just like I did. I'm lvl 25 with approximately 4.3k sp, and I learned fire, lightning, cold, force, heuksal. I still keep a 5 lvl difference. Btw, how many sp you got now? If I remember correctly, I had about 2k sp when I was around lvl 13. If you're sp farming the max, you should have about 1.5k sp now

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 Post subject: sp farming at earlier age is still useful
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sp farming at earlier level is still useful

1. Save Cost

the mobs at that level dont throw status effect at you or cast anything nasty in ranged. That will save one type of pot which is the status recovery pills. Pot eventually get more expensive as they become bigger and bigger later stage when u hit the 30's.

2. Easier quest to do along the way

1-18 quest can be done alongside with farming activities to gain more sp from it. Bandit dens giant spawns are good and contained inside the castle walls...how nice...:)...

Although the rewards are much higher, the quest in later level ones especially those 200 talisman x 3 (the ones to determine which one is fake which one is real) plus those others above it are tedious. What makes the matter worst are those area are also very laggy coz, it's also used for trade routes. (trade routes does cause spawning npc thieves and raise aggro level towards the merchants etc)

I remember the xmas event in aege..where we get 2 secs lag all the time, and I was trying to farm that laggy area lol...it's sooo annoying. I eventually die of lag and best part is, it was because of status effects, i didnt remove the burn effect in time and burn myself to death. :P

3. It is also a good way to collect money for starters

sp farm spamming of g's to collect money...kill loots from bosses are easier to sell too coz at jangan ppls arent so picky yet...compared to selling good stuff at competitive prices in DonHwang as the game progresses.

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Wtf. Lvl 12 and only 700 sp!

What am I doing wrong?

And right now I'm supposed to have at least 1.5k? That's crazy.

Okay. I am for sure going Glavie or Spear. But I don't know whether to pick cold, lightning, or fire. I'm going for a 2 STR 1 INT build or something. Also, What happens when your weapon breaks? Does it stay pernamently broken?


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Im lv 15 and stored about 3k sp so far
Im doing 9lv diff mastery and still farming at Yeoha

Anyways, 700sp at lv 12 isn't so bad
I believe i needed 3k tigers to level to 16, or MUCH more yeohas.
My point is as u progress in level, the xp needed to lv get exponentially larger. i.e. u need WAY more monsters to level up.
This will also cause your sp to increase exponentially.
I believe I gained a sp every kill on lv 12. As for now, I gained a sp for every 3 yeohas

I really dont know build and such
As for weapon breaking, Im not sure what you're reffering to.
If you're talking about durability goes to 0, you can always go to the blacksmith and get it fixed.
But, if you reffering to breaking due to using elixirs, again, I have no idea >.<
Afterall, this is only my 5th day playing SRO:P


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If you want to get loads of SP, just grab a load of pots, make sure you got at least a 3 level difference in your player level and masteries, then go out and kill 1000 monsters that are classed as red, you'll use loads of pots but you'll have SP coming out of your ass lol

I know of some people during the 2x exp event who weren't even doing the quests, they were just killing red level monsters and they were levelling up very fast.

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I think I know why I have such low SP. It's probably because I haven't been killing enough monsters to get SP while I just go and do the quests that helps me level up faster. I could just sit around and kill monsters all day, but that's hella boring.

I'm already thinking of giving up on SP farming. This is a douche.

Anyways. I'm thinking of going Ice Spear now. Not sure if that's a good combo. I hear Moogie uses that combo. Is it any good? Do you have to be Pure INT to go for it?


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Pure INT isn't really a good idea, you'll be awesome until level 30 but after that you won't have the HP or physical defense to handle any of the monsters. You could do a 2:1 INT up to the mid twenties and then go full INT I think that's what Moogie did and it would help you with the HP as well.

The idea of farming the way I see it is it gives you much less EXP and more SP, so you finish the quest before you level up which forces you to just kill monsters until you can level up, all of which gives you extra SP.

But if you think killing monsters all day is boring you might wanna consider quitting altogether lol, when you reach the mid twenties the quests are really terrible. There's one where you kill horses to get their hooves and the drop rate is like 1 every 20, it actually took me over 40 minutes for the first one to even drop but then it was every 20 or 30, the one I'm doing now is 200 gun powder bombs from these little bomb monsters, they drop 1 every 5 or so which is better but you have to get 600 of them, you end up killing about 4000+ of each monster soon enough and from what I've heard I've got is pretty easy right now :roll:

Something keeps you playing this game, but I can't for the life of me think what it is lol

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-sobs-

Maybe I will quit.. nah. Hey Black_Mamba, you're a pure STR glavie/fire user right? Did you invest any points in INT or did you just go STR all the way?


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Ice-Spear is pretty good, in my opinion. I'm rarely, if ever, frustrated with the performance of my character.

She currently has a little over 2000HP and 3600MP. Her damage is high; 'white' label monsters can almost always be killed in 2 hits. Orange ones, 3-4 hits.

I pot very frequently, both for HP and MP. My skills are high-level though, and I almost never attack without a skill being performed, so that's where all my MP gets drained from. Watching my HP keeps me on my toes in battle; since I wear Garments exclusively, I take a lot of damage when I get hit.

However, I have two -incredibly- useful weapons against receiving damage:

Ice skills- slowing the enemy considerably so that they maybe get to attack once or twice before they die. Also, Soft Guard of Ice helps reduce physical damage.

Spear skills- Namely the 4th skill down that deals 3x normal damage and has a chance to inflict Stunned status. Stunned enemies forget their current attack completely, and remain passive and unaware of you for the remainder of the status effect while you beat them senseless.

With these combined, I'm pretty safe, as long as I have lots of potions with me. The few attacks I do receive cost me a lot of HP, which is why I need to pot so frequently despite having such advantages.

As for my build, I spent 1Str:2Int up to level 24, and went pure Int from there onwards. In terms of PvP strength, I can kill anyone my level in 2-3 hits. However, I can be killed in 1-2 hits if I am struck first.

But then I don't care for PvP much anyway. :)

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penquinz wrote:
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Maybe I will quit.. nah. Hey Black_Mamba, you're a pure STR glavie/fire user right? Did you invest any points in INT or did you just go STR all the way?


Yeah I'm going full STR this time, I don't seem to be having any trouble so far in fact if I'd gone full INT I'd have been killed dozens of times, when you get a giant gun powder attacking that's bad enough but when four little ones join in, you barely survive on full STR, your using hp pots like there's no tomorrow so I can't imagine how impossible that situation would be for a full INT with about 800 health, mines 2400 and it goes down fast when your against 5 monsters.

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I wonder if I can go 2 INT 1 STR with Fire and Glavie. Or Fire and Spear. Since no one has really tried that, maybe I could be the first. I'm sure Fire is a really strong magic, and everyone decides to go Full STR with it. I'm sure it'd be a good combo if I go INT on it. Hmm.. let's find out.

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well i did do quests all the way but i didn't learn any skills until lvl 14, which made me 9 lvl dif all the way until by lvl 15 i had 2755 sp at 17.47%. I actually took a pic because some guy didn't believe me :D . But hey, if you invest more on int, DON'T USE GLAVIE!

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Black_Mamba wrote:
the one I'm doing now is 200 gun powder bombs from these little bomb monsters, they drop 1 every 5 or so which is better but you have to get 600 of them

*cough*400*cough*
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Fire and spear is just as legit a combination as Lightning and spear, but if you want really good damage you have to level Lightning mastery along with your fire skills so you can get that one Lightning skill that increases your magical damage. And you probably want grass walk too. But if you are patient enough to get all that SP, fire/spear full int may potentially give you the highest possible damage... ever. I dunno. Maybe.

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Yeah. I'ma just go Glavie//Fire. Maybe lightning or force too if I have enough SP. I'm at lvl 15 with about 1.6k of sp. I only have a diff of 7-8 lvls cause i'm really impatient and farming is taking forever, as well as leveling up when you have no quests. I feel like i run out of int so quickly though.

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I am going Fire/Str/Glaive and Force for my character. Been farming for quite a while...but things are going great. I decided to go force as my secondary because I really appreciate when a hunter/trader resses me after his thief DESTROYS me. :banghead:

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well 1.6k sp is quite alot. 7-8 lvl difference IS sp farming btw. well i learned everything and i still have lots of sp(3700). I'm a lvl 26 merchant, pure strength fire glavie and i learn force, lightning, cold, fire, heuksal. I still have lots of sp though and it's cool. keeping a 6 lvl difference should leave you just about enough sp for the whole game, as long as you keep that the whole game, you SHOULD be quite ok with sp. No guarentees though.

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really?

9 is a bit hardcore.

maybe i should level down a bit so i can level up faster.

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