question on overupgrades (+3) (+4) (+5) (+6)

djkelvz · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 118 **Location:**

Questions from a noobie:

1) Does the weapon's degree affect the chances of overupgrading? I have been seeing higher-level weapons going to +4, +5 even.

2) Does the weapon's durability also affect the chances in overupgrading?

3) Are there any possible ways to increase my chances of success in upgrading?

thanks for replying!

RaiKiRii · **Joined:** Jan 2006 **Posts:** 1351 **Location:**

1) nah it's just that lower level weapons arnt worth adding +3 to cuz they wont resell for anything near how much its costs to get it there

2) not sure but its recommended somewhere to have it at full durability before trying to enhance it

3) there are theories but nothing concrete

djkelvz · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 118 **Location:**

thanks! Had tried it myself, though. I ad a +3 lvl 29 bow (durability = 61), +4 lvl 32 bow (durability = 62) and a +4 lvl 26 bow (durability = 70). I thought maybe there is a better chance of overupgrading weapons with 60 ~ 70+ durability. I guess I need to experiment further.

Suwin Tzi · **Joined:** Mar 2006 **Posts:** 81 **Location:**

Munak!!! Must go whack with +5 broad sword!! On my Agi Swordie!! And this time, Bongun's not going to stop me!! Muahahahaa!!

*runs off with lvl 40 swordie*

*gets mobbed by30hydras*

Ack!! Rez plz!! I hav leaf!!

*leaf gets jacked*

Nuuuuu!!

*resed by priest and gets pked*

WTF?

Kew · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 1024 **Location:**

djkelvz wrote:

3) Are there any possible ways to increase my chances of success in upgrading?

using lucky powder
oh! and crossing fingers.. helps a lot

unreachable · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 72 **Location:**

does anyone think there are certain "points" of an items. for example, kind of like a roller coaster. in certain occasions it's easy to get to +3, but sometimes its hard to get to +5 but after so many elixirs it goes there with ease, same goes for +7 etc. depending on how it dropped.. whoever is lucky enough to get to the part of the roller coaster where it's close to +5 or +7, then maybe this can be true? who knows, im just throwing things out there, trying to help find out how alchemy works.

kitary · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 1222 **Location:**

If you ask me there is no spoon .. eehm trick
This is wat i think about alchemy
alchemy simply works like a chance calculation done by a program , its simple random numbers , 90% chance , 50% chance 30% chance , thats it , there probbly isnt any trick to it at all
Sro probbly has some list that looks like this with Lpowders adding something like 5% to the roll
+1 = 80%
+2 = 70%
+3 = 60%
+4 = 50%
+5 = 40%
+6 = 30%
+7 = 20%
+8 = 10%
+9 = ????

probbly the only trick would be chaos theory , as in the more ppl doing alchemy , the more the program has to generate rolls the more negative rolls will happen on pretty high chances

djkelvz · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 118 **Location:**

if only we have a FS Priest as partymate then we can "Gloria!" ..+30 LUK lol

antix · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 1608 **Location:**

1) No, it is just more worth it to upgrade higher level weapons, becuase you grow out of low level weapons quickly.

2) No. Durability just tells you how long that you can train before having to repair it.

3) Use lucky powder, that will help a little bit. Lucky on your weapon is supposed to help, but I have had lucky items that still fail. Also, look at higher level people that upgrade their weapons, they tend to give some hints. Or just ask Athena.

XMoshe · **Posted:** Wed May 17, 2006 1:42 pm

kitary wrote:

probbly the only trick would be chaos theory , as in the more ppl doing alchemy , the more the program has to generate rolls the more negative rolls will happen on pretty high chances

so if we do it after a inspection when the server is almost empty it should be easier to get it +5/6/7 and so on

djkelvz · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 118 **Location:**

XMoshe wrote:

kitary wrote:

probbly the only trick would be chaos theory , as in the more ppl doing alchemy , the more the program has to generate rolls the more negative rolls will happen on pretty high chances

so if we do it after a inspection when the server is almost empty it should be easier to get it +5/6/7 and so on

now that you mention it, i clearly remember having successful overupgrades when there were lesser people with opened stalls, and running somewhere in donwhang. hmmmmm...... :!:

Quyxz · **Posted:** Thu May 18, 2006 6:55 am

Another question, when equipment or a weapon is +0 and you use an elixir on it. Will it always go to +1, or not? So do I need to use lucky powder then ?

djkelvz · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 118 **Location:**

I had experiences with alchemy failing at +1....it's sooooo sad...... :cry:

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