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On sparta I have a lvl 25 rouge/clerc and a lvl 12 rouge/bard I dont know what would be best I like bard because of the noise and moving march but the cleric's heals also help a lot. Do you guys think If I farmed enough on my lvl 12 i could posibly do a rouge(xbow)/bard/cleric. Im not sure because the bard skills are good for grinding solo but the cleric skills are good for pvp and healing when grinding. If I do decide to lvl cleric and bard skills what ones should I get?

somthin like this? All the xbow skills for the rouge and moving march and noise for bard then all the buffs on cleric?

Solo = Rogue / Bard
Parties = Rogue / Cleric

What if I did all three, It would be an great all around character. I would need loads of sp but it could be possible.

Quoted from another topic asking the same question,

If you read some topics on the forum you would find out that Rogue/Cleric is superior to Rogue/Bard in most situations,except for in solo grinding on general mobs.

Subclass bard useful skills that stay after weap switch,

Holding clamor-Binds for 10 sec(so i heard)
Moving march-Increases speed.
Noise-keeps general mobs and pt mobs from attacking first.

Subclass Cleric useful skills,

Bless-45 sec huge phys-mag def increase.
Recovery division-Heals a chunk of hp every 3-5 sec.
Heaven Flash-Binds a mob or player for 10 sec.
Healing Cycle/Orbit-Heals hp every sec for 16 sec.
Ressurect-Resses people,They will love u^^
Body Blessing-Phy def boost,stays on other players when change weap.
Thus is helpful in party's without a main cleric.

Speedpotion=buyable at grocery trader.

Thats all u need to know when making the choice.

Conclusion:

1.Bard-Lazy-man's choice for mediocre performance.
2.Cleric-Hardworkers choice for pWnage^^.

For additional Information consult the Sticky above in Character and skills where u can find the Guides,and look up XemnasX Rogue guide,the most detailed guide on Rogues out there.

thanks, lots of help ^^

I think I should do rouge/bard/cleric but the only skills I would get for bard are the moving march skills and noise.

2 subclasses?

Whatever fits your needs.But its not recommendable.3 trees as euro means mediocre to weak performance in at least 1 of the trees.For instance if you plan to get to lvl 80 with ur Rogue skills,bard and cleric can only go till lvl 40 and that is really not worth it if you plan to level till 80-90.

Well, yeah 3 threes ain't really an option but I also gave it some thoughts. I'm lvl 37 rogue/cleric so I ain't switching no more. But here's an idea.

Go Rogue/Bard untill lvl 40, cause untill lvl 40 the cleric skills ain't really usefull except for bless. This also let's your level quite a bit faster. Then at 40 you can get the cleric skills and lower the bard skills or you decide at lvl 40 to stay with bard.

(might be a better idea to get the cleric skills once you're a bit higher than 40, otherwise you'll have to delevel an entire tree at once...you could get cleric skills at 50 or 60 and leave the bard skills at 40 at that time)

well i just keep going with both chars then my rouge/bard and my rouge/cleric.

I think you just need to decide, lvl up 2 chars almost same lvl is going to be boring.
If you do this you will stop playing in about 1~2 months
Just choose the one you like the most, I personally choose for bard on my roque.

My reason was;
I don't play a lot on it> so no party play for me,
If I play on my roque its for thief so the moving march is needed,
Less sp needed for bard> since I didn't farmed on it,

Just choose the one you like don't lvl up 2 roque's

Bounzzer said,




Conclusion:

1.Bard-Lazy-man's choice for mediocre performance.
2.Cleric-Hardworkers choice for pWnage^^.

I wonder how many more people choose bard cause it's a lazy-man's choice.

Ok im gonna stay with my rouge/cleric because im just getting my friends to lvl me and it gonna be a char just for like theif runs or mercant runs or what ever i choose.

max cap is 140( at least that is wat I hav heard) so u can actually do 140 rouge/ 140 cleric/ 20 bard.

No, cause other than with chinese you can use 2 "skill levels" each level you go up. This means you can max 2 trees...

yeah im keep'in my rouge/cleric.

this is euro not chinese...max euro mastery is 2x the lvl of the euro not 300 like chinese

your totally right xD

lol yupp, thanks for all the help guys. Im keeping my rouge cleric the hard workers choice for pure pWnage

A very wise decission

GO Rogue/Cleric ...its awesome because at 40 you will get recovery division and you will have bless spell and recovery division heals you every 6 seconds its like auto pots basically....bless spell = amazing defense which you will need incase you encounter giant or a lot of mobs and if you have DD or CE on .... just my 2 cents