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iSkate
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Post subject: Warrior/??? Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:45 pm |
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hi again, im trying to find the perfect sub class for warrior... can anyone point out what i should pick and why?
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Post subject: Re: Warrior/??? Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:48 pm |
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Well for support and survivabilty, you should go with Cleric. For power, Go with 1H Warrior / Warlock. You can get all weps, but i dont think this is nessecery.
For speed and party support (Not what a warrior should be about imo), pick Bard.
For all round ass kicking goodness, pick Rouge.
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Post subject: Re: Warrior/??? Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:57 am |
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Post subject: Re: Warrior/??? Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:07 am |
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Lempi wrote: For speed and party support (Not what a warrior should be about imo), pick Bard. I'm a warrior and I have bard. I do fine without having bless in a 1vs1 and healing cycle. Of course I do burn through more vigors. 2h alone with bard = retarded. You'll need 1h or axes added to prevent him attacking you when skins run out. I added bard to be more 'supportive' to the party of what I have. Having everyone cleric then no one gets speed and we all cry. Yes, I do like being bard. 1h's shield trash is great and if you have 1h skilled you can attack him back, but if not.. shield trashing only = pointless. You're just delaying your death. Axes' w/e skill does bleed/stun is a great skill to get the opponent stunned along with the ability to cause bleed to make up for the missing warcry if you're ganna do switch back to 2h and do daredevil. Axis quiver blows since the so called "50% chance to stun" is a lie unless there is like 6 people around you. Don't use it unless you manage to get 6 people on you lol.
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Post subject: Re: Warrior/??? Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:50 am |
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Im full 1h/2h cleric with Sudden twist under dual axe which causes bleed. i can do enough damage to kill a prot glaiver who has 5% extra defense/attack while i have 5% less defense/attack (pgt+ vs. silver pt) in 1-2 crits. I can tank a +9 sword for over 3 minutes. I can kill pretty much any build.
Warlock gets pwned by holyspell too much, if theres lots of cleric buffers on your server than go cleric yourself, since bleed goes through spell.
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Post subject: Re: Warrior/??? Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:54 am |
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Try sub wizard. It's unorthodox, selfish, and risky. I don't know how good this build is since I don't know anyone who has it at a high level. Do it then come tell us. 
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Post subject: Re: Warrior/??? Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:57 am |
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the_wicked wrote: Im full 1h/2h cleric with Sudden twist under dual axe which causes bleed. i can do enough damage to kill a prot glaiver who has 5% extra defense/attack while i have 5% less defense/attack (pgt+ vs. silver pt) in 1-2 crits. I can tank a +9 sword for over 3 minutes. I can kill pretty much any build.
Warlock gets pwned by holyspell too much, if theres lots of cleric buffers on your server than go cleric yourself, since bleed goes through spell.Im full 1h/2h cleric with Sudden twist under dual axe which causes bleed. i can do enough damage to kill a prot glaiver who has 5% extra defense/attack while i have 5% less defense/attack (pgt+ vs. silver pt) in 1-2 crits. I can tank a +9 sword for over 3 minutes. I can kill pretty much any build. Well arent you special.... one thing i know for sure is blader > warrior/cleric
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Post subject: Re: Warrior/??? Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:15 am |
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don't forget the option of wizzard
get invis get group invis
gets bind so you can do your extra warrior dmg, gets aoe bind gets fear, gets aoe fear gets mana drain, gets aoe mana drought gets teleport gets charged wind (keep lvl 1)
its a middle ground between getting warlock and rogue, plus teleport followed by a sprint assualt means some serious chase down, with bind fear mana drought they aren't getting away nor goign to be hitting you back very much
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Post subject: Re: Warrior/??? Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:55 am |
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englishganxta wrote: the_wicked wrote: Im full 1h/2h cleric with Sudden twist under dual axe which causes bleed. i can do enough damage to kill a prot glaiver who has 5% extra defense/attack while i have 5% less defense/attack (pgt+ vs. silver pt) in 1-2 crits. I can tank a +9 sword for over 3 minutes. I can kill pretty much any build.
Warlock gets pwned by holyspell too much, if theres lots of cleric buffers on your server than go cleric yourself, since bleed goes through spell.Im full 1h/2h cleric with Sudden twist under dual axe which causes bleed. i can do enough damage to kill a prot glaiver who has 5% extra defense/attack while i have 5% less defense/attack (pgt+ vs. silver pt) in 1-2 crits. I can tank a +9 sword for over 3 minutes. I can kill pretty much any build. Well arent you special.... one thing i know for sure is blader > warrior/cleric Just Leave...
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Post subject: Re: Warrior/??? Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:33 am |
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englishganxta wrote: the_wicked wrote: Im full 1h/2h cleric with Sudden twist under dual axe which causes bleed. i can do enough damage to kill a prot glaiver who has 5% extra defense/attack while i have 5% less defense/attack (pgt+ vs. silver pt) in 1-2 crits. I can tank a +9 sword for over 3 minutes. I can kill pretty much any build.
Warlock gets pwned by holyspell too much, if theres lots of cleric buffers on your server than go cleric yourself, since bleed goes through spell.Im full 1h/2h cleric with Sudden twist under dual axe which causes bleed. i can do enough damage to kill a prot glaiver who has 5% extra defense/attack while i have 5% less defense/attack (pgt+ vs. silver pt) in 1-2 crits. I can tank a +9 sword for over 3 minutes. I can kill pretty much any build. Well arent you special.... one thing i know for sure is blader > warrior/clericBlader vs Warrior/cleric is just a long ass pot war; usually the blader loses if they're in garms; if they're in protector or armor, then it's whoever runs outta pots first. OT: It depends on what you mean "perfect." Better for grind pts, solo, pvp? IMO, I'd say the most beneficial sub for yourself and others would be cleric sub; you have heals and ress, plus bless spell (and buffs if you add them).
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Post subject: Re: Warrior/??? Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:37 am |
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Warrior/cleric --> IMMORTAL Warrior/bard --> solo Warrior/wizard --> no comment
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Post subject: Re: Warrior/??? Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:50 pm |
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Blader vs. warrior cleric, and english saying the blader will always win? Unless the blader is in prot the warrior usually wins first if he can heal himself -.-
two daredevil crits on a +5 garm set, +7 shield +7 blade 90 FF blader with 80 ice and he died.
Can also be done fast with bleed + dull + kd + crit.
Bladers are just meatshields.
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Post subject: Re: Warrior/??? Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:35 pm |
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the_wicked wrote: Blader vs. warrior cleric, and english saying the blader will always win? Unless the blader is in prot the warrior usually wins first if he can heal himself -.-
two daredevil crits on a +5 garm set, +7 shield +7 blade 90 FF blader with 80 ice and he died.
Can also be done fast with bleed + dull + kd + crit.
Bladers are just meatshields. Maybe you are just pvping noobs because the last time i checked you are supposed to constantly kd along with ironwall right after he uses daredevil... on top of that if the warrior is excessively strong there is always snow.. by then the skins/bless are sure to run out and a few kds should finish him off... dont act like i dont know as a level 90 glaiver ive seen many fights and beat many warriors... these nubs just dont know any other tactics other than button smashing... I know youre on venus, which is predominantly euro and most likely have barely any good chinas.. you should try one of the old servers its a completely different story because the chinas actually learn to use their chars over a long period of time.. the chinas on your server probs just botted straight to 90 and have no Farking clue what half their skills do and they will never learn that way.
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Post subject: Re: Warrior/??? Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:26 pm |
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englishganxta wrote: the_wicked wrote: Blader vs. warrior cleric, and english saying the blader will always win? Unless the blader is in prot the warrior usually wins first if he can heal himself -.-
two daredevil crits on a +5 garm set, +7 shield +7 blade 90 FF blader with 80 ice and he died.
Can also be done fast with bleed + dull + kd + crit.
Bladers are just meatshields. Maybe you are just pvping noobs because the last time i checked you are supposed to constantly kd that is if your still alive along with ironwall right after he uses daredevil... on top of that if the warrior is excessively strong there is always snow.. by then the skins/bless are sure to run out and a few kds should finish him off... dont act like i dont know as a level 90 glaiver ive seen many fights and beat many warriors... these nubs just dont know any other tactics other than button smashing... I know youre on venus, which is predominantly euro and most likely have barely any good chinas.. you should try one of the old servers its a completely different story because the chinas actually learn to use their chars over a long period of time.. the chinas on your server probs just botted straight to 90 and have no Farking clue what half their skills do and they will never learn that way. ss or it didn't happen? All I see are empty words. SHow us a vid of your invincible blader?
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Post subject: Re: Warrior/??? Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:52 am |
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englishganxta wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AfbC_-Z4-A&feature=related Lolol...that video proves nothing at all; Warrior with 2h only is fail. That Warrior cleric sucked balls to say in the least. Didn't even change to cleric get get rid of bleed, and only repeated the same combo over and over again.
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Post subject: Re: Warrior/??? Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:20 am |
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_Scarlett_ wrote: englishganxta wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AfbC_-Z4-A&feature=related Lolol...that video proves nothing at all; Warrior with 2h only is fail. That Warrior cleric sucked balls to say in the least. Didn't even change to cleric get get rid of bleed, and only repeated the same combo over and over again. Perfect example of a warrior who doesn't know how to use his character.
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Post subject: Re: Warrior/??? Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:45 am |
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This guy asked what subclass to get not what you guys think about what dominates. Stay on topic my god. Warrior vs Blader is undetermined as a general statement, there are many variables that can determine a win. Variables: gear, skills, own player skill, luck and many more.
Anyway on topic, i personally think you should go warrior/cleric. It's a cookie cutter build for a warrior that is for sure, but its successful. You got bless spell which along side your skins, basically means you have a permanent high defense in both phy and mag def. Holy word is extremely useful, who doesn't want to be immune? Do i really need to talk about the usefulness of recovery division when euros have pot delay =\
Warrior/Warlock i dislike personally because im not a fan of debuffing type builds, both force mastery and warlock. Sure warlock cannot be pilled off like force can, but i think its fair to say 50%+ of europeans have cleric as a sub. Therefore the warlock sub wont be very helpful for these type of builds and they will have the advantage over you because they are using a subclass and yours is practically not even usable if they can holy spell it off. My opinion is a little bias and i have little experience with this build and have always gone warrior/cleric.
I haven't even considered bard as a sub nor wizard.
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