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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:59 pm 
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also nukers hp is lower :S, and fan spear doesnt help tanking strs, at all :S


Stop ruining my fun :(

If you really want a spear nuker, go hybrid :x

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sry >.<, but look, 80 cap can be a very nice cap, (s/s cant quad stab, FFUU), xD, anyways but i believe 80 cap is the best cap for all ^^

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You have no idea what you are talking about. Just ask WNxSoy, he was a pure INT and with the limited level 70 skills was able to kill and tank several 70 FF Glaives during guild wars. During my short time playing with WNx and Soy, we warred Vendetta and Nighthawk and WNxSoy as a full INT never had problems holding his own.

Winterfreeze as Pure INT Spear had plenty of fun also. He did just fine from BrosInArms. Snake from Exitusengel always used a spear and we had a lot of fun in job wars, and he always did fine. He died a lot, but he killed a lot also.

If you are unfarmed and undergeared and didn't use your brain at all, then yes nukers died 1-2 hits. But then, nukers hit pretty hard at that time. I remember on my FF Glaive, garment +5 full blues set, Adonia was still nuking me almost half my health consistently.

So again, you have no idea what you are talking about. 70 Cap was plenty fun without new skills. And the guilds that had the most Pure INT always won guild wars. 2 Bombs from 2 INTs almost always equaled a kill. Two INT, double stabbing you died. This 70 cap server will be just fine without the 70 skills.

Instead of jagging off in front of DW showing off what botting and gold buying gave current players, 70 cap people actually had guild wars and job wars. All builds were just fine and lot of fun to play.

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You have no idea what you are talking about. Just ask WNxSoy, he was a pure INT and with the limited level 70 skills was able to kill and tank several 70 FF Glaives during guild wars. During my short time playing with WNx and Soy, we warred Vendetta and Nighthawk and WNxSoy as a full INT never had problems holding his own.

Winterfreeze as Pure INT Spear had plenty of fun also. He did just fine from BrosInArms. Snake from Exitusengel always used a spear and we had a lot of fun in job wars, and he always did fine. He died a lot, but he killed a lot also.

If you are unfarmed and undergeared and didn't use your brain at all, then yes nukers died 1-2 hits. But then, nukers hit pretty hard at that time. I remember on my FF Glaive, garment +5 full blues set, Adonia was still nuking me almost half my health consistently.

So again, you have no idea what you are talking about. 70 Cap was plenty fun without new skills. And the guilds that had the most Pure INT always won guild wars. 2 Bombs from 2 INTs almost always equaled a kill. Two INT, double stabbing you died. This 70 cap server will be just fine without the 70 skills.

Instead of jagging off in front of DW showing off what botting and gold buying gave current players, 70 cap people actually had guild wars and job wars. All builds were just fine and lot of fun to play.

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You have no idea what you are talking about. Just ask WNxSoy, he was a pure INT and with the limited level 70 skills was able to kill and tank several 70 FF Glaives during guild wars. During my short time playing with WNx and Soy, we warred Vendetta and Nighthawk and WNxSoy as a full INT never had problems holding his own.

Winterfreeze as Pure INT Spear had plenty of fun also. He did just fine from BrosInArms. Snake from Exitusengel always used a spear and we had a lot of fun in job wars, and he always did fine. He died a lot, but he killed a lot also.

If you are unfarmed and undergeared and didn't use your brain at all, then yes nukers died 1-2 hits. But then, nukers hit pretty hard at that time. I remember on my FF Glaive, garment +5 full blues set, Adonia was still nuking me almost half my health consistently.

So again, you have no idea what you are talking about. 70 Cap was plenty fun without new skills. And the guilds that had the most Pure INT always won guild wars. 2 Bombs from 2 INTs almost always equaled a kill. Two INT, double stabbing you died. This 70 cap server will be just fine without the 70 skills.

Instead of jagging off in front of DW showing off what botting and gold buying gave current players, 70 cap people actually had guild wars and job wars. All builds were just fine and lot of fun to play.


u ever heard about "Pvp"?
a pure int sword nuker, gets 1 or 2 crits by a glavier is death, u know how to play or u dont know how to play, u are dead.
maybe u had alot of "Fun" at 70 cap, jobbing, Gw. but im talking about pvp.

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You have no idea what you are talking about. Just ask WNxSoy, he was a pure INT and with the limited level 70 skills was able to kill and tank several 70 FF Glaives during guild wars. During my short time playing with WNx and Soy, we warred Vendetta and Nighthawk and WNxSoy as a full INT never had problems holding his own.

Winterfreeze as Pure INT Spear had plenty of fun also. He did just fine from BrosInArms. Snake from Exitusengel always used a spear and we had a lot of fun in job wars, and he always did fine. He died a lot, but he killed a lot also.

If you are unfarmed and undergeared and didn't use your brain at all, then yes nukers died 1-2 hits. But then, nukers hit pretty hard at that time. I remember on my FF Glaive, garment +5 full blues set, Adonia was still nuking me almost half my health consistently.

So again, you have no idea what you are talking about. 70 Cap was plenty fun without new skills. And the guilds that had the most Pure INT always won guild wars. 2 Bombs from 2 INTs almost always equaled a kill. Two INT, double stabbing you died. This 70 cap server will be just fine without the 70 skills.

Instead of jagging off in front of DW showing off what botting and gold buying gave current players, 70 cap people actually had guild wars and job wars. All builds were just fine and lot of fun to play.


u ever heard about "Pvp"?
a pure int sword nuker, gets 1 or 2 crits by a glavier is death, u know how to play or u dont know how to play, u are dead.
maybe u had alot of "Fun" at 70 cap, jobbing, Gw. but im talking about pvp.

You are wrong, with the right gear and knowledge when it comes to PVP you can easily survive 2 crits.


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You have no idea what you are talking about. Just ask WNxSoy, he was a pure INT and with the limited level 70 skills was able to kill and tank several 70 FF Glaives during guild wars. During my short time playing with WNx and Soy, we warred Vendetta and Nighthawk and WNxSoy as a full INT never had problems holding his own.

Winterfreeze as Pure INT Spear had plenty of fun also. He did just fine from BrosInArms. Snake from Exitusengel always used a spear and we had a lot of fun in job wars, and he always did fine. He died a lot, but he killed a lot also.

If you are unfarmed and undergeared and didn't use your brain at all, then yes nukers died 1-2 hits. But then, nukers hit pretty hard at that time. I remember on my FF Glaive, garment +5 full blues set, Adonia was still nuking me almost half my health consistently.

So again, you have no idea what you are talking about. 70 Cap was plenty fun without new skills. And the guilds that had the most Pure INT always won guild wars. 2 Bombs from 2 INTs almost always equaled a kill. Two INT, double stabbing you died. This 70 cap server will be just fine without the 70 skills.

Instead of jagging off in front of DW showing off what botting and gold buying gave current players, 70 cap people actually had guild wars and job wars. All builds were just fine and lot of fun to play.


u ever heard about "Pvp"?
a pure int sword nuker, gets 1 or 2 crits by a glavier is death, u know how to play or u dont know how to play, u are dead.
maybe u had alot of "Fun" at 70 cap, jobbing, Gw. but im talking about pvp.

You are wrong, with the right gear and knowledge when it comes to PVP you can easily survive 2 crits.

a sun+10 pure int spear(full sunner), in sjsro, died from me(glavier with +5), with 3 crits(SSS,GSM).
u cant survive crits if its over ur hp (like, 10k crit, then 8k crit, while u have 15k hp)
and its also about luck

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u ever heard about "Pvp"? As far as I know and many will agree when I say guildwars and jobbing are all aspects of pvp. If your talking about 1vs1 then please state it.
a pure int sword nuker, gets 1 or 2 crits by a glavier is death, u know how to play or u dont know how to play, u are dead. [b]It's pretty obvious a nuker will take alot of damage and even die if a glavier crits, but don't try to back up your claim that nukers don't do well cause of crits (which in nature are all luck, same goes for blocks and flips.


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a sun+10 pure int spear(full sunner), in sjsro, died from me(glavier with +5), with 3 crits(SSS,GSM).
u cant survive crits if its over ur hp (like, 10k crit, then 8k crit, while u have 15k hp)
and its also about luck


I find that hard to believe without proper evidence. And as you stated its all luck so don't just blantly say things cause you supposely 3 crited a sun+10 with a +5, even though a sun+10 would mean his 76 spear is eqaul to a lvl101 spear, as I'm sure Sjsro only sells 9th degree +10 weapons. Unless you played during the 60, 70 or even 80 cap don't blantly state nonsense for what is possible at each apporiate cap.

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i meant 1v1, and yes, sjsro only sells 9th dg, but its 90 cap, not 100
actually its all luck i know that, but new skills give people who know how to play the char more chances to win..
it happened like this (was jobbing), i saw him in my way(i know i was going to die with 2 nukes or 3), i used soul spear soul and lucky stun and 2 cirts :O, then ghost spear also critted and he died(we have 70 cap skills)

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Strwarrior wrote:
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You have no idea what you are talking about. Just ask WNxSoy, he was a pure INT and with the limited level 70 skills was able to kill and tank several 70 FF Glaives during guild wars. During my short time playing with WNx and Soy, we warred Vendetta and Nighthawk and WNxSoy as a full INT never had problems holding his own.

Winterfreeze as Pure INT Spear had plenty of fun also. He did just fine from BrosInArms. Snake from Exitusengel always used a spear and we had a lot of fun in job wars, and he always did fine. He died a lot, but he killed a lot also.

If you are unfarmed and undergeared and didn't use your brain at all, then yes nukers died 1-2 hits. But then, nukers hit pretty hard at that time. I remember on my FF Glaive, garment +5 full blues set, Adonia was still nuking me almost half my health consistently.

So again, you have no idea what you are talking about. 70 Cap was plenty fun without new skills. And the guilds that had the most Pure INT always won guild wars. 2 Bombs from 2 INTs almost always equaled a kill. Two INT, double stabbing you died. This 70 cap server will be just fine without the 70 skills.

Instead of jagging off in front of DW showing off what botting and gold buying gave current players, 70 cap people actually had guild wars and job wars. All builds were just fine and lot of fun to play.


u ever heard about "Pvp"?
a pure int sword nuker, gets 1 or 2 crits by a glavier is death, u know how to play or u dont know how to play, u are dead.
maybe u had alot of "Fun" at 70 cap, jobbing, Gw. but im talking about pvp.

Wow dude, did you even play during the 70 cap? or even 80 cap without the new skills.
Full int builds wearing protector/armor had no problems tanking glaivers/bladers without snow shield.

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After some research, I think I will not implement snow shields and others, since with a maxed snow shield a INT will mostly become overpowered.

I'm also recruiting people who were capped at the 7x cap and played much. I want to ask some questions about which skills there were, etc. If anyone would like to help, please send me a PM with your MSN-address so I can contact you.

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After some research, I think I will not implement snow shields and others, since with a maxed snow shield a INT will mostly become overpowered.

I'm also recruiting people who were capped at the 7x cap and played much. I want to ask some questions about which skills there were, etc. If anyone would like to help, please send me a PM with your MSN-address so I can contact you.

Thanks,

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I would suggest posting this at General Discussion, there are some oldies there. I started playing just when 80 cap came.


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I played the 70 cap, but I wasn't capped myself, tho you can talk to me on msn cause I remember quite alot stuff :)

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I went through the character data, and I saw 06 was the slot of weapons. To test it I replaced the ID with a 10D 3th tier bow and it worked.

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I played the 70 cap, but I wasn't capped myself, tho you can talk to me on msn cause I remember quite alot stuff :)


like me, with the difference thta i dont have msn, but u could talk to me on xfire :O

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Tried plusvalue, and worked.. here a 98+9 bow :P

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Why not show the whole pictures?


Why should I? I already showed the whole screen and I don't feel like it gives somethign extra, I can show you if you want them, if you don't believe me :banghead:.

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Why not show the whole pictures?


Why should I? I already showed the whole screen and I don't feel like it gives somethign extra, I can show you if you want them, if you don't believe me :banghead:.

I believe you, but after all those fake pservers before you I have the right to be suspicous.


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You have no idea what you are talking about. Just ask WNxSoy, he was a pure INT and with the limited level 70 skills was able to kill and tank several 70 FF Glaives during guild wars. During my short time playing with WNx and Soy, we warred Vendetta and Nighthawk and WNxSoy as a full INT never had problems holding his own.

Winterfreeze as Pure INT Spear had plenty of fun also. He did just fine from BrosInArms. Snake from Exitusengel always used a spear and we had a lot of fun in job wars, and he always did fine. He died a lot, but he killed a lot also.

If you are unfarmed and undergeared and didn't use your brain at all, then yes nukers died 1-2 hits. But then, nukers hit pretty hard at that time. I remember on my FF Glaive, garment +5 full blues set, Adonia was still nuking me almost half my health consistently.

So again, you have no idea what you are talking about. 70 Cap was plenty fun without new skills. And the guilds that had the most Pure INT always won guild wars. 2 Bombs from 2 INTs almost always equaled a kill. Two INT, double stabbing you died. This 70 cap server will be just fine without the 70 skills.

Instead of jagging off in front of DW showing off what botting and gold buying gave current players, 70 cap people actually had guild wars and job wars. All builds were just fine and lot of fun to play.


u ever heard about "Pvp"?
a pure int sword nuker, gets 1 or 2 crits by a glavier is death, u know how to play or u dont know how to play, u are dead.
maybe u had alot of "Fun" at 70 cap, jobbing, Gw. but im talking about pvp.


i dun has anything against you, but i dont think you played the same cap 70 i did :)

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I played the 70 cap, but I wasn't capped myself, tho you can talk to me on msn cause I remember quite alot stuff :)


this goes for me too :D (for example the heukal skill that made you spin the spear/glavie instead of giving more defense or the bich skill that made you "scream" while using your shield instead of giving more defense aswell :P )

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You have the right to a flaming partner, if you can not find a flaming partner one will be appointed to you.

I'm 100% sure he could find it, guess who? Yes you are right: it's Eckoro

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Eckoro is a pretty nice guy, been talking to him some days now and he has helped me on some things. Anyway: I'll be posting a screenshot with a Sun+9 bow soon with the full screen. I was trying to find the bytes for the Sos/Som/Sun but Eckoro told me they're different item id's.

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William.D wrote:
Eckoro is a pretty nice guy, been talking to him some days now and he has helped me on some things. Anyway: I'll be posting a screenshot with a Sun+9 bow soon with the full screen. I was trying to find the bytes for the Sos/Som/Sun but Eckoro told me they're different item id's.

You shouldn't post so much so quickly honestly.

Somewhere out there there are already people that believe in you.

You should give bi-weekly updates or something..

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a sun+10 pure int spear(full sunner), in sjsro, died from me(glavier with +5), with 3 crits(SSS,GSM).
u cant survive crits if its over ur hp (like, 10k crit, then 8k crit, while u have 15k hp)
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Sjsro is not a good example because it's full of people who actually don't know the game. 80-90% of capped chars are not even inmune to statuses :banghead: Even I could kill yesterday a guy with a sun+10 bow (one of the new wave of int bowers lmao) and I'm a blader with shitty damage lol

I played during cap 70 with a int s/s and with a decent set (actually I had a couple of sets, armor and garment) it's a great build and imo it doesn't need that stupid snow shield.

Also during the cap 70 the game was really balanced. Good old days :love:

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Here for all the guys who don't believe this shit: A sun+9 bow with full screen. HP/MP is still bugged since I didn't do it yet. Now 3-4 days I won't update any pictures sine I will rewrite some of the core.

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I never said that I didnt believe you, I just said that I think it is weird that you have showed whole pictures and suddenly you crop them.

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 Post subject: Re: JaveQ: New Silkroad private server is born! <INGAME NOW!!>
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:55 pm 
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Guys just to clarify this project is real, from speaking to Will I can tell he has experience in Java (still understanding silkroad), but projects like ngSRO dont show this skill or any type of development.

But all I can say to you guys from what I experienced dont get to excited about being able to play a server anytime soon, they take a long time to develop and William still has stuff to understand but it will be a good learning process from him. No doubt he will have to rewrite stuff and improve source code as his understanding of whats best way to structure code.

Thats why I said 2-3 Months is unrealistic even with a fairly experienced coder.

So people dont start planning things like what character your gonna make or what skills should be included, till its near playable standards, if you want to help this project join as a coder or a packet sniffer.

and advertising to much is bad idea as people will see image and see character with sosun and will be like "OMGOMG!", when they have little understanding of how much needs to be coded after placing inanimant objects in certain slots :)


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 Post subject: Re: JaveQ: New Silkroad private server is born! <INGAME NOW!!>
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:58 pm 
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wilobix wrote:
Strwarrior wrote:
a sun+10 pure int spear(full sunner), in sjsro, died from me(glavier with +5), with 3 crits(SSS,GSM).
u cant survive crits if its over ur hp (like, 10k crit, then 8k crit, while u have 15k hp)
and its also about luck


Sjsro is not a good example because it's full of people who actually don't know the game. 80-90% of capped chars are not even inmune to statuses :banghead: Even I could kill yesterday a guy with a sun+10 bow (one of the new wave of int bowers lmao) and I'm a blader with shitty damage lol

^^ i agree with u, but that guy was Zo0(a trade helper, gm assistant helper)
so i believe that he knows how to play :P

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