2hSword or Dual Dagger

Design · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 200

Which ones of these are better in pvping?

Pros?

Cons?

cin · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:03 am

i think its like this:

2h sword ~ take damage
dual daggers ~ do damage

idk which is better.

Design · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 200

cin wrote:

i think its like this:

2h sword ~ take damage
dual daggers ~ do damage

idk which is better.

I think they both can do dmg?

Nixweerd · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 94

Design wrote:

cin wrote:

i think its like this:

2h sword ~ take damage
dual daggers ~ do damage

idk which is better.

I think they both can do dmg?

2her normally doesn't do that much dmg, because they are build as a tank

dual daggers is not a real tank, they do more damage.

but it is hard to tell which one would be better

Design · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 200

Nixweerd wrote:

Design wrote:

cin wrote:

i think its like this:

2h sword ~ take damage
dual daggers ~ do damage

idk which is better.

I think they both can do dmg?

2her normally doesn't do that much dmg, because they are build as a tank

dual daggers is not a real tank, they do more damage.

but it is hard to tell which one would be better

2h swords look like they do pretty high dmg when i was partying with some in csro

Nixweerd · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 94

Design wrote:

Nixweerd wrote:

Design wrote:

cin wrote:

i think its like this:

2h sword ~ take damage
dual daggers ~ do damage

idk which is better.

I think they both can do dmg?

2her normally doesn't do that much dmg, because they are build as a tank

dual daggers is not a real tank, they do more damage.

but it is hard to tell which one would be better

2h swords look like they do pretty high dmg when i was partying with some in csro

Maybe it was a higher lvl?

normally a dual dagger build is build to do dmg, a 2her to take dmg (tank)

exality · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:22 am

Nixweerd wrote:

Design wrote:

Nixweerd wrote:

Design wrote:

cin wrote:

i think its like this:

2h sword ~ take damage
dual daggers ~ do damage

idk which is better.

I think they both can do dmg?

2her normally doesn't do that much dmg, because they are build as a tank

dual daggers is not a real tank, they do more damage.

but it is hard to tell which one would be better

2h swords look like they do pretty high dmg when i was partying with some in csro

Maybe it was a higher lvl?

normally a dual dagger build is build to do dmg, a 2her to take dmg (tank)

example time!!!

ok so you have a party!
in this party you have...
2h sword
daggers/axes
whizerd
healer dood

ok then ur 2h runs up to the mob and attacks...then the dagger runs up does alot of dammage to the mob while the 2h is taking damage form the mob...the wizard is in the bg doing alot of dmg and the healer is healing everyone!!!!

Vandall · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 1923 **Location:**

exality wrote:

Nixweerd wrote:

Design wrote:

Nixweerd wrote:

Design wrote:

cin wrote:

i think its like this:

2h sword ~ take damage
dual daggers ~ do damage

idk which is better.

I think they both can do dmg?

2her normally doesn't do that much dmg, because they are build as a tank

dual daggers is not a real tank, they do more damage.

but it is hard to tell which one would be better

2h swords look like they do pretty high dmg when i was partying with some in csro

Maybe it was a higher lvl?

normally a dual dagger build is build to do dmg, a 2her to take dmg (tank)

example time!!!

ok so you have a party!
in this party you have...
2h sword
daggers/axes
whizerd
healer dood

ok then ur 2h runs up to the mob and attacks...then the dagger runs up does alot of dammage to the mob while the 2h is taking damage form the mob...the wizard is in the bg doing alot of dmg and the healer is healing everyone!!!!

great example

but where is the bard :?:

Design · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 200

What about in terms of pvp

Nixweerd · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 94

Vandall wrote:

exality wrote:

Nixweerd wrote:

Design wrote:

Nixweerd wrote:

Design wrote:

cin wrote:

i think its like this:

2h sword ~ take damage
dual daggers ~ do damage

idk which is better.

I think they both can do dmg?

2her normally doesn't do that much dmg, because they are build as a tank

dual daggers is not a real tank, they do more damage.

but it is hard to tell which one would be better

2h swords look like they do pretty high dmg when i was partying with some in csro

Maybe it was a higher lvl?

normally a dual dagger build is build to do dmg, a 2her to take dmg (tank)

example time!!!

ok so you have a party!
in this party you have...
2h sword
daggers/axes
whizerd
healer dood

ok then ur 2h runs up to the mob and attacks...then the dagger runs up does alot of dammage to the mob while the 2h is taking damage form the mob...the wizard is in the bg doing alot of dmg and the healer is healing everyone!!!!

great example

but where is the bard :?:

The bard is healing MP and just like the healer buffing

truez · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 1288 **Location:**

Nixweerd wrote:

Vandall wrote:

exality wrote:

Nixweerd wrote:

Design wrote:

Nixweerd wrote:

Design wrote:

cin wrote:

i think its like this:

2h sword ~ take damage
dual daggers ~ do damage

idk which is better.

I think they both can do dmg?

2her normally doesn't do that much dmg, because they are build as a tank

dual daggers is not a real tank, they do more damage.

but it is hard to tell which one would be better

2h swords look like they do pretty high dmg when i was partying with some in csro

Maybe it was a higher lvl?

normally a dual dagger build is build to do dmg, a 2her to take dmg (tank)

example time!!!

ok so you have a party!
in this party you have...
2h sword
daggers/axes
whizerd
healer dood

ok then ur 2h runs up to the mob and attacks...then the dagger runs up does alot of dammage to the mob while the 2h is taking damage form the mob...the wizard is in the bg doing alot of dmg and the healer is healing everyone!!!!

great example

but where is the bard :?:

The bard is healing MP and just like the healer buffing

tatz wat i get to do most of te time in our party :wink:

Behemoth · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 394 **Location:**

2h is like a chinese glaiver, doesnt do much dmg overall but has deadly crits (+kd,kb). dual daggers on the other hand do a lot less dmg than 2h (unless rogue uses +dmg buff) but are faster and can stun

Design · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 200

Behemoth wrote:

2h is like a chinese glaiver, doesnt do much dmg overall but has deadly crits (+kd,kb). dual daggers on the other hand do a lot less dmg than 2h (unless rogue uses +dmg buff) but are faster and can stun

I thought rogues have deadly crits

Behemoth · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 394 **Location:**

Design wrote:

Behemoth wrote:

2h is like a chinese glaiver, doesnt do much dmg overall but has deadly crits (+kd,kb). dual daggers on the other hand do a lot less dmg than 2h (unless rogue uses +dmg buff) but are faster and can stun

I thought rogues have deadly crits

they do if only they use rogue dmg buff, so they have to sacrifice def to dmg while 2h sword crits with full def

fena · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 4441 **Location:** Life

truez wrote:

Nixweerd wrote:

Vandall wrote:

exality wrote:

Nixweerd wrote:

Design wrote:

Nixweerd wrote:

Design wrote:

cin wrote:

i think its like this:

2h sword ~ take damage
dual daggers ~ do damage

idk which is better.

I think they both can do dmg?

2her normally doesn't do that much dmg, because they are build as a tank

dual daggers is not a real tank, they do more damage.

but it is hard to tell which one would be better

2h swords look like they do pretty high dmg when i was partying with some in csro

Maybe it was a higher lvl?

normally a dual dagger build is build to do dmg, a 2her to take dmg (tank)

example time!!!

ok so you have a party!
in this party you have...
2h sword
daggers/axes
whizerd
healer dood

ok then ur 2h runs up to the mob and attacks...then the dagger runs up does alot of dammage to the mob while the 2h is taking damage form the mob...the wizard is in the bg doing alot of dmg and the healer is healing everyone!!!!

great example

but where is the bard :?:

The bard is healing MP and just like the healer buffing

tatz wat i get to do most of te time in our party :wink:

FFS, stop quoting so many people!

Key-J · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:12 pm

FenaCorp wrote:

FFS, stop quoting so many people!

OffTopic: I replied.

OnTopic: I think, they both are good. Dagger u got speed on your side, @H you got mass damage

klemmyez · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 393 **Location:**

I approve 2H take dommage, and do some, but dont win on pvp xD.

Rogue is the best make nice critic, with buff or with out.
(maybe people don t have see the screen, where a dagues lvl 87 berz a moob lvl 85 and make 103k critic on it .... )

I got a rogue (dague) lvl 62 with dague lvl 56+3 cr16, i os chinese s/s, spear lvl 64 to 70, and i 3 shoot a tanker chinese, and it s same gegen europe char ..

U dont speack about crossbow?? I have see pvp crossbow lvl 90 with other build.. no people touch him, kd/kb, power, and skill regen very fast. When i use crossbow, i only use 3 skill, 1 kd, 2 kb.

Maybe got something to do, switch crossbow and dague...

Draquish · **Joined:** Mar 2006 **Posts:** 6423 **Location:** ____

Bards are ze pwnage.

Design · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 200

klemmyez wrote:

I approve 2H take dommage, and do some, but dont win on pvp xD.

Rogue is the best make nice critic, with buff or with out.
(maybe people don t have see the screen, where a dagues lvl 87 berz a moob lvl 85 and make 103k critic on it .... )

I got a rogue (dague) lvl 62 with dague lvl 56+3 cr16, i os chinese s/s, spear lvl 64 to 70, and i 3 shoot a tanker chinese, and it s same gegen europe char ..

U dont speack about crossbow?? I have see pvp crossbow lvl 90 with other build.. no people touch him, kd/kb, power, and skill regen very fast. When i use crossbow, i only use 3 skill, 1 kd, 2 kb.

Maybe got something to do, switch crossbow and dague...

Thx for the reply, can tell your first language is not english.

Got a question now, Is crossbow better in pvp or dagger? I've seen a replay of a crossbow and he did crazy dmg with like crazy knockdowns

klemmyez · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 393 **Location:**

Yes i m french, sorry for my bad english T.T

Hum i dont really know who is the best, got some pass skill protection good in crossbow, but the buff is bad, take 50% of your hp, also when u debuff u lost this 50% :/.

With dague, u can buff and debuff, easy with no danger it s only change defense. Some good skill on it too, the speed for exemple.

About dommage and skill attack:
With crossbow, no body can touch you, or very very rarely, but hum make middle dommage, it s no sux, but no extrem too.
With dagger, u got less protection, but fight don t during 20 min, got very hight dommage more than a wizzard, u can one shoot most of people.

Now in war, i mean crossbow better, because got more protection, i have make pvp me vs one healer and a wizzard, with crossbow it s long but i kill them without danger, with dague i kill them too it's take 2 secondes, but sometimes near to dead (when they hit me in same time).

I dont have test pvp with switch, i mean do like it:

Take dague, use the buff of dommage, use invisible skill.
Hit the man
Switch on cross bow, make kd/kb
If the man is far (doing with kb skill), switch on dague, buff, and make the big skill
If the man is kd, switch on dague too, buff, and use the kill who make 50% more dommage when the man is kd.
Switch on crossbow ....

Design · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 200

klemmyez wrote:

Yes i m french, sorry for my bad english T.T

Hum i dont really know who is the best, got some pass skill protection good in crossbow, but the buff is bad, take 50% of your hp, also when u debuff u lost this 50% :/.

With dague, u can buff and debuff, easy with no danger it s only change defense. Some good skill on it too, the speed for exemple.

About dommage and skill attack:
With crossbow, no body can touch you, or very very rarely, but hum make middle dommage, it s no sux, but no extrem too.
With dagger, u got less protection, but fight don t during 20 min, got very hight dommage more than a wizzard, u can one shoot most of people.

Now in war, i mean crossbow better, because got more protection, i have make pvp me vs one healer and a wizzard, with crossbow it s long but i kill them without danger, with dague i kill them too it's take 2 secondes, but sometimes near to dead (when they hit me in same time).

I dont have test pvp with switch, i mean do like it:

Take dague, use the buff of dommage, use invisible skill.
Hit the man
Switch on cross bow, make kd/kb
If the man is far (doing with kb skill), switch on dague, buff, and make the big skill
If the man is kd, switch on dague too, buff, and use the kill who make 50% more dommage when the man is kd.
Switch on crossbow ....

Hard to keep the level gap is it not? So dagger damage > crossbow?

klemmyez · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 393 **Location:**

Design wrote:

klemmyez wrote:

Yes i m french, sorry for my bad english T.T

Hum i dont really know who is the best, got some pass skill protection good in crossbow, but the buff is bad, take 50% of your hp, also when u debuff u lost this 50% :/.

With dague, u can buff and debuff, easy with no danger it s only change defense. Some good skill on it too, the speed for exemple.

About dommage and skill attack:
With crossbow, no body can touch you, or very very rarely, but hum make middle dommage, it s no sux, but no extrem too.
With dagger, u got less protection, but fight don t during 20 min, got very hight dommage more than a wizzard, u can one shoot most of people.

Now in war, i mean crossbow better, because got more protection, i have make pvp me vs one healer and a wizzard, with crossbow it s long but i kill them without danger, with dague i kill them too it's take 2 secondes, but sometimes near to dead (when they hit me in same time).

I dont have test pvp with switch, i mean do like it:

Take dague, use the buff of dommage, use invisible skill.
Hit the man
Switch on cross bow, make kd/kb
If the man is far (doing with kb skill), switch on dague, buff, and make the big skill
If the man is kd, switch on dague too, buff, and use the kill who make 50% more dommage when the man is kd.
Switch on crossbow ....

Hard to keep the level gap is it not? So dagger damage > crossbow?

make a nice farming on lvl 16, i dont have farming a lot only gap 9 on my level 9 to 20, but now at my lvl 6x i need farming again T.T.

About dommage, dagger make the best dommage.

dagger>wizzard>crossbow>2H>warlock>1H> hach> bard/healer.
(i see the game like it ^^ )

Design · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 200

klemmyez wrote:

Design wrote:

klemmyez wrote:

Yes i m french, sorry for my bad english T.T

Hum i dont really know who is the best, got some pass skill protection good in crossbow, but the buff is bad, take 50% of your hp, also when u debuff u lost this 50% :/.

With dague, u can buff and debuff, easy with no danger it s only change defense. Some good skill on it too, the speed for exemple.

About dommage and skill attack:
With crossbow, no body can touch you, or very very rarely, but hum make middle dommage, it s no sux, but no extrem too.
With dagger, u got less protection, but fight don t during 20 min, got very hight dommage more than a wizzard, u can one shoot most of people.

Now in war, i mean crossbow better, because got more protection, i have make pvp me vs one healer and a wizzard, with crossbow it s long but i kill them without danger, with dague i kill them too it's take 2 secondes, but sometimes near to dead (when they hit me in same time).

I dont have test pvp with switch, i mean do like it:

Take dague, use the buff of dommage, use invisible skill.
Hit the man
Switch on cross bow, make kd/kb
If the man is far (doing with kb skill), switch on dague, buff, and make the big skill
If the man is kd, switch on dague too, buff, and use the kill who make 50% more dommage when the man is kd.
Switch on crossbow ....

Hard to keep the level gap is it not? So dagger damage > crossbow?

make a nice farming on lvl 16, i dont have farming a lot only gap 9 on my level 9 to 20, but now at my lvl 6x i need farming again T.T.

About dommage, dagger make the best dommage.

dagger>wizzard>crossbow>2H>warlock>1H> hach> bard/healer.
(i see the game like it ^^ )

I see, but dagger vs xbow which better in pvp?

klemmyez · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 393 **Location:**

i wanna know too T.T, i dont have see pvp yet dager vs crossbow :/.

And i dont have find a rogue who got my lvl for pvp with me ..

I dont have the answer, i mean it s crossbow, because nobody can touch him.

DeepEvil · **Posted:** Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:51 am

Dual dagger for sure,from my exp in my rogue it was effective in pvp against both warrior and wizards for examples

crossbow kd,kb the wizzards and other pure int chars

dagger deal crits and stunns on warriors to evade thier massive phy dmg and poison them

Design · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 200

Yea this is a hard decision

nofearz · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 188 **Location:**

I can't choose between 2h sword or dual daggers which 1 is better? we are with 4 man in a party we already got a 2h sword and archer and 1 doesnt know and I can't choose in 2h sword or dual daggers which do you recommend?

Vandall · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 1923 **Location:**

nofearz wrote:

I can't choose between 2h sword or dual daggers which 1 is better? we are with 4 man in a party we already got a 2h sword and archer and 1 doesnt know and I can't choose in 2h sword or dual daggers which do you recommend?

i recommend whichever one u like more

Ell · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 3281 **Location:**

Yes, choose what you enjoy playing more.

klemmyez · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 393 **Location:**

2 video of a crossbow in pvp

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIr0n4LmGVk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=greOGS8udCE&NR=1

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