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 Post subject: Power SP Farming
PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:08 am 
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SP LVLING AT ITS PEAK

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1)Intro
2)How to power sp farm
-Why power sp farming the best way to sp farm
-Where to sp farm
-EQ



Intro
I’m not going to talk a lot about why people sp farm and why its better...because there is about 100 guides out there telling you the same thing. SP farming is a must! If you are planing to play until lvl60+ you have to sp farm(you don't have to...but it is the best way), there is no argument here. If you lvl with a gap less then 9 and think your going to be fine...you are going to find your self in trouble once u hit 50+ or so. This is because the smaller the gap the more insignificant amount of sp you get. It has been proven that the sp gap is most effective at 9(max)

This has been proven many times, if your lvling with a 1-8 gap, it just won’t cut it at higher lvls...and that is why people lvling with gaps will stop and sp farming at higher lvls some more. SP farming all your sp at lvl 16, and lvling with 0 gap is the best way to do it because it maximizes your sp gain and when you lvl with 0 gap it maximizes your exp intake and most importantly SAVES YOU TIME in the long run.

How to power sp farm
A lot of guides out there are telling you to lvl to 10 without putting any masteries until lvl 10 then put 5, then lvling to 14 and keeping a 9 gap all the way until lvl16. This is POINTLESS, here is the better way to sp farm.
Lvl to 7 and every lvl put in your masteries until lvl 7, after lvl 7 do not touch your skill tree any more, when you get to lvl 16 you will have a 9 SPG. Doing this instead of the way mentioned above is because when you are lvling from 1-10 with gap and 14-16 with 9 lvl SPG is slow, very very slow, and the exp from PVE is very low at lower lvls, therefore giving small amounts of sp. People that get to lvl 16 with the first method end up with about 2k sp when lvl16, with the power sp farming method, you get to 16 with about 1.5k sp, but in about 1/4of the time, 1/4 of the time, 1/4 of the time(I repeated it because it will sink in better in your head). When your actually farming for sp, you will get 500+ sp very quickly.
When you reach lvl 16 with your 9SPG, usually people will tell you to go to bandit archers, in the middle of the bandit camp, where the instant bandit archer spawn is and get a sos bow and 1 hit them, killkillkillkill, this is very irresponsible because a lot of newer players find out that when they get there, they can hardly get kills and monkeys steeling thier drops. Now I will help you prepare for the bandit archer spawn. First of all, with a lvl16 sos bow, you are not even close to 1 hitting bandit archers, hell you can’t even 2 hit ko them even with lvl2 fire imbu(its suppose to be at lvl2 with lvl7 fire mastery(if you are going fire). Second a lot of players cannot even afford sos bows in the first place. Power sp farming overcomes that.
Power sp farming way.(for pure str, pure intel use +intel items)
When you get to lvl 16, start looking for your EQ,(you should at least have some money, assuming you always pick up your gold and sell the items you find in stalls), as for your bow, a lvl16 sos would be best, if you get 1 Alchemy it to +2,+3 if you are feeling lucky. Don’t go for +4 its not worth the risk and the money for a few more dmg(if your rich...why not). If you are one of those that cannot afford a lvl16 sos bow, don’t worry just find a good crit lvl16 bow with + anything or + str. Now as for your EQ, you should wear garments garments garments, this will give you 20% decrease in spell cost and 20% MS. This is a must, it will save you tons of money on mana pots and help you get from 1 monster to the next faster(therefore more exp). Now keep lvling and doing quests while keeping your masteries at lvl7, yes! Keep lvling! The quests now are giving plenty of exp, allowing minimal grinding time, meaning if you do all your quests you should be lvling up fairly quickly(refer to the quest guide to see what is there). Now keep lvling and questing as high as you can, at least lvl18 is suggested(only if you have a good bow, the weaker lvl16 bow you have the higher you should lvl.), but the higher the better, it would help a lot if you had a good lv18 now and 21 bow waiting for you. Now at a good lvl get your friend with revive and Delevel you back to lvl16(die,revive,repeat)(you also get 2%sp for exp lost so a bonus ^_^). If you have lvled to 21 and deleveled back to lvl16 you will have 20 extra str now,(that adds a lot of dmg)and extra intel as well.

A lot of reading up there, so here if where you should be. Lvl16 with 20+ bonus str, EQ with +str (hopefully at least 5 str or more), and a good lvl16 bow. Now here is where the fun begins(irony). Your are set to go kill bandit archers now ^_^. With fire imbu and good +str EQ and sosbow+3, you should be able to 1 hit bandit archers most of the time. For those with a budget, you can still 2-hit kill bandit archer which will do as well. Now make a party make a party make a party with exp distribution, and having a full team(3 others) and you will get 9% bonus in exp for everything you kill. Yes finally my favorite...~_~, killkillkillkillkill, farm to 50ksp at least(this can vary depending on your build), the more the better and lvling with 0 gap afterwards.

Extras
If you are planing to play SRO, for awhile, invest in a monkey for the 4 weeks of sp farming! When you sp farm, you DO NOT pick up anything(unless sos drop). Why not let your monkey do the work and make you few HUNDRED THOUSAND GOLD!

Try to find a good group to party with, it will make you pass the time much faster if your chatting ^_^, and they will stay in the party as well ^_^.

Save your berserk for giants, and don’t forget to use your fire imbue while in berserk form( a lot of people forget to use skills while in berserker form.)

Turn on some music to help you pass the time! Don’t discouraged, it WILL PAY OFF IN THE END.

No matter what your gonig to use later, you should still get lvl7 bow mastered, and lvl7 fire , for high dmg output, you can always delevel it later. At higher, deleveling skills won't be such a burden on your wallet ^_^(most of the time you won't even need to...unlikely to get to 70+)

please any typos changes suggestions feel free to comment,


Last edited by JessicaYan on Tue May 16, 2006 8:56 am, edited 2 times in total.

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This is a good guide, except for the mistakes.

Delvling won't give you bonus stats. If it did, rich chars would forget about SoS bows, and just lvl to 25-26, then delvl to 14 with a few hundred extra HP and MP. Not to mention balances through the roof. After you delvl, you keep the str/int listed, but for practical purposes, it goes away. Next time you get to a lvl, die, and watch all those pretty bonuses disppear.

XP/SP are not exponential. For every level of gap up to 9, your XP earned decreases by 10% and your SP earned increases by 10%. Completely linear.

Int users with a good SoS bow and skills DO OHK archers. Int users with bad SoS bow two hit them.

A full distribute pt only gives 9% xp bonus.

50k SP is approximately 100k bandit archers. I don't know ANYONE who's had the patience to willingly get past 30k at archers. That's, what...a month of sitting there?

Also, SP is not effected by your lvl. You're just as effective a farmer at lvl 60 as you were at lvl 16. The only reason people do it at 16 is because you get a new weapon at that lvl, and you can still get decent SP from bandits, which are the only instant-spawn mobs in the game. But kill for kill, lvl is irrelevant. (No, you can't have my formulas)

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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 8:45 am 
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Thanks for the feedback ^_^

But deleveling from 20-16, you do keep the bonus stats.
What I ment by SPG from 1-9 being exponential, meaning
1spg~10%
2spg~22%

it is not 10% per 1 spg, it gets higher, not by a lot but it does.

party distribution exp bonus is probably 9%, wasn't sure, remember reading it somewhere else, but bonus is bonus ^_^,I'll update later.

Pure intl do a lot more dmg then pure str, I was targeting the pure str users.
There are many people that has farming way over 50k(on Ksro 75k+ is common(highest was like 135k), iam currently at 24k), not saying eveyone should but if you have the patience the more the better. It is up to you.

SP isn't effected by your lvl, but if you are leveling with a SPG say 5, you loosing out on exp, slowing yourself down and not getting much sp(the bigger the gap the less overall total exp you get(i.e you get 100exp, 0 gap 80 exp, 20 sp=100///9gap 15exp, 60sp=75total)). And yes farming at lvl16 is the best way to go because of the insant spawn, and because of the high exp output from bandit archers, you do not have that luxery at higher lvls. Therefore farming most of your sp at lvl16 and lvling with 0 SPG>lvling with SPG. Also you CAN sp farm at higher lvls,but again you do not have a instant spawn,and noway you can 1 hit ko...=slow


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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:11 am 
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hittin level 21 and deLevelin baCk toO 16...and you keep your statS...we learn somethinG new everydai dont we...

soOoo your saYin HIT lvl 16 asap and then farm...cause farmin at lOw levelS aint worth it...???

anywaiS nice guide...might be a stickY =D

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hell, if you have enough money, buy a SoSun bow at level 8. level to 20, as fast as yo ucan, then murder as many lvl 20s as you can lol

delevel to 13, then with the bow yo ucan mow down bandits.

that is thebest way.

OR you can just power grind to 70 nad sp farm there :D

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I think your guide is really good. There are a few minor errors as stated by the above users, but there is just as many good parts. I do like the idea of getting masteries to lvl 7 and then starting the 9 level gap at 16. Starting the gap at 14 is dumb, because you probably still have your crappy lvl 8 bow.

I have a new character that I am using to take a break from my nuker that is going to be farming soon. I think that I will be using your method to farm instead of the others. I also like this becuase it resembles the Korean version of farming. My friends have told me this is what all of the Koreans did in Lineage 2.

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thanks for feedback guys, yea all the info is just from experiene and what I read, so if its wrong just point it out, and I'll update it. I want to make it so its helpful to everyone. thanks again.


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 Post subject: Re: Power SP Farming
PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:26 pm 
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Good post, you have many good points. But there also some I disagree with . . .


JessicaYan wrote:
If you lvl with a gap less then 9 and think your going to be fine...you are going to find your self in trouble once u hit 50+ or so.

This has been proven many times, if your lvling with a 1-8 gap, it just won’t cut it at higher lvls...and that is why people lvling with gaps will stop and sp farming at higher lvls some more.


I think you over-emphasize this. I never sp farmed at bandits, and I rarely have a 9 level gap - I have had one, but not for long as its almost unbearable if you're trying to level.

I am now a low Lv50s pure int nuker. I have had a 4-8 level gap since ~Lv18, with an average of about 5 or 6. I have a ton of skills and masteries, and nearly 40k sp left. I calculated the remaining sp I need until Lv60, and can acquire *every* mastery and skill I want (which is damn near everything a nuker can dream of), if I maintain just over a 8:1 exp to sp exp ratio. That's nothing . . . prolly a 2-3 level gap.

But the most important thing is it took me about ~10 weeks to get here - that's it. I have every skill I want, not to mention plenty of gold (not outrageous amount, but enough to afford some really good items). The more I read about sp farming, the more and more I'm curious about the time it actually would take someone to get where I'm at with 40k sp left over, with spending a month at bandits sp farming.


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SP farming all your sp at lvl 16, and lvling with 0 gap is the best way to do it because it maximizes your sp gain and when you lvl with 0 gap it maximizes your exp intake and most importantly SAVES YOU TIME in the long run.


The main reason to farm at Lv16 is because bandits more or less respawn instantly. The other reason is because its relatively low level, so its easy to acquire a weapon that allows you to one hit enemies at your level while having masteries 9 levels below - even if a L16 SOS bow cost you 5m, thats not much compared to SOS weapon prices later in the game. Yes, I agree if you have a nice spot where you can rapidly kill at bandits, it is a very good idea.

However, forums are jam packed with advice telling everyone and their moma to farm at bandits. Last time I tried to farm there I actually had quite a bit of downtime between kills because there were sooooo many people there. The fact is that because everyone keeps talking about farming at bandits, it is way overcrowded - and if you happen to try to farm when its really crowded, it is not nearly as effective as many people make it seem.


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Thanks for the input Doru^_^, I did kind of over-emphasized about lvling with a SPG. BUT sp farming most of your sp and lvling with 0 gap will save you plenty of time. If you farm for 1 month and lvl with a 0 gap, you can get to lvl50+ 2 month or less, you spent ~10 weeks. SP farming lvling with 0 gap>>>>>lvling with SPG(<9 SPG).

Yes farming at lvl16 IS because of the bandit spawn, but you do make a great point about the place being overcrowded (I have experienced this many times), but even if it is crowded, and your not at max kill rate, you still get the same or more exp as compared to any other spot. Therefore just stick it out and hope it dies down...or move to the side and kill some bandits/champs/giants. Only good thing is...more money for your monkey to pick up? lol


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lol you can get from 1-50 in a month with a 0 level gap and double exp.. another 2 with double exp to get 6x.. then you can farm all you want o.O

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thats with double exp....which not everyone is going to spend the money on....you can get double exp if you sp farm as well. And you know how slow it is sp farming at lvl60+?? with 0 gap when you get to 30+ your going to run out of sp...not updated abilities how fast are you going to lvl from 30-60? (your going to have a hard time killing anything your lvl)


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Sorry if this is not 100% on topic. Could some ~LVL60+ please tell me their level, gap and exp / skillexp they get from a mob?

Thanks a lot ;)


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