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If you have a party going and someone leaves...You dont just tell somone that they have to do their sub class.

I have a bard sub class but I will not bard in Parties cause its just that a sub Class. It is for MM and Noise at this moment cause I need all the sp to keep my Wizz up at this time. I will farm for my Bard later when it is needed.

I will not be told how to play My Character. I play it as a wizz and wizz only. Thats the way it should be accepted...and dont make the rest of the party get pasnalized cause you dont want to wait for a Bard. I t has been discussed over and over. My sub class is exactly that a sub class. Not for party use its for my use at this time. I f I wanted to Bard I would be bard main not Wizz. I think its piss poor that I have been in a party for over an hour, they lose a bard and sya well Deputy can Bard so get the wizz. I am Wizz not bard. You don't like it too bad.........I am sorry that I can not afford to have premium and all that to get the sp i need to have to FF classes at this time but I can't. I have a family to feed and that is more important than making sure you people have me as a bard sub class.

I expect a person to come and do their Main job. If they choose to use their sub class, then more power to them. I cant use it cause then I have to spend sp on a sub class that I need for my main class to lvl it up to do max damage.

DO NOT EXPECT TO HAVE SOMEONES SUB BE USEFULL AT ALL TIMES!

awesome!

I agree. People start a new character and no matter what their main and "sub" is, they say its hundreds of thousands of sp to fully farm. wellll duh. Its a nearly full mastery you want, not a sub then. If people are full farmed warlock/cleric and can do both, thats really awesome and a more powerful character. but if someone gets Warlock and maybe grabs res/bless/and body/soul blessing for example, its their choice. Its their character. I get annoyed when people get pissy about someone not having their "sub" as fully decked out and useable as their main.

im a warrior with a wizard subclass to 30 just so i can go invis and spawn chasers on bots. and i dont ever expect to wizard for a party

no one is required to have a sub. no one is required to play there sub. thats just dumb.

Just do what I do, don't get a sub, that way they can't ask you.

People wonder why i delvl cleric :3

I am actually going to start leveling my cleric back up simply because I can get into a party as either support or damage dealer.

I guess I am lucky. I have been on the worlds longest curst heart quest in the history of Sro!!!!! And I guess by now everyone knows that asking me to cleric would be a joke at this point! As soon as I say "yeah ok me my lvl 50 cleric will totally have this chasers party under control" everyone changes their minds.

Hello its Jasmin here...
let me clear this up please because you have no reason to be upset.
When the other person left, we thought that you could be bard and i
already invited another wizz/cleric. When you said that you can't,
i told you that we would play with 1 bard because i didnt want to kick
the other guy. No one forced you to be bard and it was your decision to
leave the party, i even pmed you to come back.
I dont see any problem with having only 1 bard. Parties work just fine
without the "perfect" line up. I dont get why we should wait for
another bard if we have enough other people in line , just because the
party will be only 95% as efficient with them(no i didnt calculate that
XD).
There is nothing wrong with having a submastery with only solo skills,
i just didnt know that you are not able to bard in a pt.
I should have asked you before i invited the other guy but lets please
not make a drama out of this =).

It wasnt meant for Drama...Its meant for everyone to not "ASSUME" that a sub class is up to specs.

Honestly at this moment in time...It is lvld to bard at lvl 60. I CHOOSE not to bard untill i can do so efficiently in a party, which wont be till i get capped and farmed for it.

I'm a bard main, my sub is wiz cleric. I get asked to wiz in pts all the time but I don't really mind. All you have to do is say "I can't wiz" and it's over with.

It's natural for people to assume you can do your subclass, a little bit of explanation is not gonna hurt anyone.

Think About what you wrote........

he got you with his tiny text silly dan

Dang silly small text...it got me sorry Ofy

Well I'm cleric with wiz sub lol. But when ppl say use your wizard skills if I dont feel like I won't. It's for plvling ppl under lvl 35 that comes to the community. Because we all know first 27 lvls are hard since its really hard to get into parties. I try to fix that.

my main is wiz, and my sub is bard. at first it was just for MM and noise, then I took the rest of minimum necessary skills to get into pts as bard. my choice and I won't say I don't benefit from it.
Now I'm considering farming sp to make it battle bard (started as a sub and can end up as a main...)

So far I haven't noticed anyone beeing forced to play their sub and get angry that it isn't playable. The real problem is when somebody can't play their main

lol iam rogue/bard and if they want me to play rogue in the party i would be more than happy

now that they have more higher lvl battle bards, rogues are accepted (at least at roc mountain)

lol +1 .

and when i used to play on my lock and if someone asked me to cleric, i would just try it for 5 mins and the tank would say go back to lock (i suck at it and its very unfarmed xD)

Plys to explain meyns.

i say if the sub class is to a functional level to take that role in a party and the party needs it, you should adapt and use it. If you don't want to be a bard in a party just don't farm for some skills, but some times some one switching to their subclass can let some one else join the party.

I do agree Foundre, But I explained in the Confederation forums about how much sp i need to farm. I am using all I have now for my wizz, so Honestly I wont be any good and be working twice as hard to MC people with low skills. I will eventually get them up agin but I have about 500kSp to get b4 I can do that.

I agree with foudre on this one but I will go even further. If you are able to play the build decently but refuse to play it because you don't feel like it/want to you can hurt the party.

You did it to my guards pt yesterday when you refused to bard and we ended up taking a 4th wiz instead, which you suggested we do. We ended up with no March, Dance, 2nd Mana Healer and spread Warr buffs. You and the other wiz's died a few times each and I think I might have died 1 or 2 times also. I'm not mad about it but I would have much rather had a shitty bard then deaths and lack of dance.

You need to make a better argument why not to. Just say you ONLY have Speed and Noise or you're missing a key skill, like mana cycle. They'll keep looking for a bard and probably wont try to force you into it, you could probably talk your way out of it if they continue. Anyway the point of my post, don't just refuse because you don't want to and if you simply will not no matter what, but still can, make up an excuse. You only make things more difficult.

Well, I have the same dilemma with Corn too, but, aside from those who don't really understand why I cannot cleric in parties (and I've encountered a fair share with them either calling me a noob or even asking the party why I'm there in the first place if I cannot cleric). I just try to explain as diplomatic as possible that my Cleric skills are only this and this level and the party mostly understands. And, as I've been doing my best maxing my wiz skills -- try to do as much damage as possible during the grind. And try to time my bless cycle at the most useful moments. ^^

Also Dan, imma not defending anyone with what happened during our Gens party last night, but actually Jasmin as party leader, imho, (read: only MY opinion), tried to find a solution the best manner possible and still keep whomever was remaining in the party intact. She was suggesting we go with one bard you still wiz and, as far as I remember, nobody objected to that. But I also really get your point too when it comes to sub skills as I've explained above. Jasmin did her best to get the party started again, for me, and you actually had all the right to leave when you felt that the party is not the optimal setup, though still, as I've said, no one forced anyone to do what they didn't want from my vantage point, suggestions were just thrown around as what always happens when reforming.

anyone who does pt shares with me as pt leader...and they are "fully" able to utilize both of their masteries in a pt, then I expect them to play the role that is more needed and if they really dont feel like doing it then....well...ban

Why was this thread even needed. If the situation arises where someone assumes you can play your sub class in a party, simply say " my bard isn't farmed enough to play the role, sorry". The party will read this, accept it and the problem is taken care of. Leaving the PT and writing a big rant thread isn't going to solve much =/

By creating a thread like this it only causes unnecessary drama, frankly im not a big fan of drama. Keep things cool and relaxed guys

how to solve this problem.


EVERYONE PLAY CHINESE BUILD


end of story.

Dude, u play on venus and u dont like drama ? O_O ouch

aint the storyline of the drama the same everyday?


Botters n Legits trying to outtalk each other in globals.


Less entertainment value everyday >_<

Just dont play ur sub if you dont want to play it. Tell ur pt members u just dont want to play ur sub and it's not farmed.

Unlike me, lemon, zan, maggi and many others, we choose to master both builds and farmed for it. It's different with a sub. It's not a sub, it's dual builds.

It's up to the person if they want to play both or just 1 with a sub. U cant force them to do things they dont like.