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 Post subject: The Truth about Itonami
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:38 pm 
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This is a simple request to get Layla, Amber or Itonami, whatever you want to call her, unbanned, as I have enough proofs to back me up in this. She was not the one using the account nor character in the video.
Some guy/s joined Nightfall (her guild), I didn't like them at all firstly because of their names (Titjob, Blowjob, Handjob, etc) and I knew they'd only bring trouble. Itonami being a bit dumb at times gave the account to one of them knowing they used a bot, but he promised he wouldn't use it on Itonami, that he would just use it to powerlevel his character/s. Having said that, 2 unionmates hunting sungsungs saw the character powerlvling Titjob and some other guy, the three of them botting.
Jarvy and Terressa messaged me and other leaders (DresAn & Onirism) and we went to the spot in a matter of minutes.
I had spoken to her earlier on the phone because she told me through PMs she had a problem with her arm and was in the hospital, about 20 minutes about that happend I got that PM from Jarvy saying that Itonami was being botted at Samarkand, I wasn't sure if it was her or not but I did some thinking with other DresAn and Jarvy and it couldn't be her due to the simple fact she was at the hospital as I previously stated.

For what Itonami told me through txts, over 5 different 'friends' had access to her account, 4 of them being from her school.
From the day 30 of october, 2007 to november 7, 2007 Itonami didn't play at all, this I know because I remember she said happy birthday to me 4 days late and I still annoy her with it. If you ask Azillius he'll tell you the video is from that time, also you can notice that in a screenshot that shows a few jewel boxes in the floor.
The kids were shortly kicked out of Nightfall and ever since that time I always see Ito going to Talka by her own, no set waypoints nor anything.

I can't seem to find screenshots of Itonami being botted at sungsungs nor ongs but I do however have old messages and lots of threads on our union forums that have never been edited or if they were edited it was by the time they were posted.
I invite any of you, especially the mods and SG to join the forum and ask for activation so you can read everything that has happened in the last 10 months, also I am willing to give cin or any of the three admins my SRF password in order to check those six exchanged PMs.

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All I'm asking for is for the ones that decide not to just talk to the ones that don't like Itonami, but also to the ones that do like her and have been in an union with her for almost a year. That know how against botting she is and how she has threatened several unionmates with scrathing them with her nails just because of thinking about buying a bot.
And before you all come to me saying that AlinU bots, well big deal the husband of the unionmaster bots, there's nothing I can do about it and he's a great man, and sadly the main reason why Itonami left the union.


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 Post subject: Re: The Truth about Itonami
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:41 pm 
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Jeez the ass kissing just will not stop will it?

I'm pretty sure they already knew it wasn't Itonami herself on the character.

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth about Itonami
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It's not ass kissing, it's defending a friend. Something I would do for any of my unionmates if they happen to be called something they're not.

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth about Itonami
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:55 pm 
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lol I was there.
on my lvl 17 account on greece following Onirism into the sungsungs but i had to constantly run around since they would aggro on me.

If ito botted i WOULD KNOW. We play on the same IP, and use the forums on the same ip. SG, Ryoko, and Key-J would know that we share IP's through the forums. I even have to use a proxy now cuz she's banned.

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth about Itonami
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It's nice for you to stick up your friend. However you saying she did not bot does not outdo the fact that their is evidence of her char being botted. How do you know that Ito was not botting it the whole time and just said she gave it away? (I'm not accusing, I'm just saying that this is always a possibility). It is the same thing that Bambskii and a lot of other people have done, to get away with botting.

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth about Itonami
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Bambskii? I have no clue who that is.
I know it wasn't her because of all the mentioned above, apparently you didn't read it all. You really thing I'd spend one hour and miss going to see Sweeney Todd because of an hypocrital friend that says she doesn't bot when she does!? :P
I've seen haters from Greece accuse Ito just because they don't like her in-game, now it's time for SRF to see the contrary.

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth about Itonami
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It's nice for you to stick up your friend. However you saying she did not bot does not outdo the fact that their is evidence of her char being botted. How do you know that Ito was not botting it the whole time and just said she gave it away? (I'm not accusing, I'm just saying that this is always a possibility). It is the same thing that Bambskii and a lot of other people have done, to get away with botting.


No kidding, that's probably the reason she's still banned. We can't ever know for sure.

And Fudge it doesn't really matter if you would know or not, I doubt you'd snitch on her.

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth about Itonami
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Bambskii? I have no clue who that is.
I know it wasn't her because of all the mentioned above, apparently you didn't read it all. You really thing I'd spend one hour and miss going to see Sweeney Todd because of an hypocrital friend that says she doesn't bot when she does!? :P
I've seen haters from Greece accuse Ito just because they don't like her in-game, now it's time for SRF to see the contrary.


Do you know how many ppl are closet botters and hide it as much as possible? I've known many people who claim to be legit and do crazy things to cover themselves. Her saying she gave her account away, how can you prove that? Her saying that she was injured, how can you prove that? On the other side, people have vids/ss of her botting. It was proven that her char was botted. Give some real proof that it wasn't her and she should get unbanned (even though that will be hard).

And bambskii is a botter on Xian who posted here frequently until he got banned like a week ago. Pretended to give away his accounts, but was really botting them, and when they were farmed he "took" them back.

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth about Itonami
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jesus the mod team is gonna have a hard time interpreting all this evidence stuff. You know, its not a black and white issue anymore.

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth about Itonami
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Yasakira wrote:
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Bambskii? I have no clue who that is.
I know it wasn't her because of all the mentioned above, apparently you didn't read it all. You really thing I'd spend one hour and miss going to see Sweeney Todd because of an hypocrital friend that says she doesn't bot when she does!? :P
I've seen haters from Greece accuse Ito just because they don't like her in-game, now it's time for SRF to see the contrary.


Do you know how many ppl are closet botters and hide it as much as possible? I've known many people who claim to be legit and do crazy things to cover themselves. Her saying she gave her account away, how can you prove that? Her saying that she was injured, how can you prove that? On the other side, people have vids/ss of her botting. It was proven that her char was botted. Give some real proof that it wasn't her and she should get unbanned (even though that will be hard).

And bambskii is a botter on Xian who posted here frequently until he got banned like a week ago. Pretended to give away his accounts, but was really botting them, and when they were farmed he "took" them back.


Let's say tomorrow the police takes you to jail and then you are in court, accused of murdering a peer. They have a street security video of your car being used by the murderer but the face of the person cannot be seen, yet you are accused heavily. The judge says you don't get to be defended, only people against you is allowed to talk, how would you feel?

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth about Itonami
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:12 pm 
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Does Ito has anything to do with Death2All? :?
Coz Death used to share his account with 4-5 ppl too I think.

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth about Itonami
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:16 pm 
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Casey613 wrote:
Let's say tomorrow the police takes you to jail and then you are in court, accused of murdering a peer. They have a street security video of your car being used by the murderer but the face of the person cannot be seen, yet you are accused heavily. The judge says you don't get to be defended, only people against you is allowed to talk, how would you feel?


I'm not saying you can't defend her, I'm saying get solid proof (which would be really hard, but doable). If I said that it was my evil twin brother it isn't gonna convince the judge is it?

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth about Itonami
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:19 pm 
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I Pm'd Ito about it,

This is what I said:

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Just something to make sure she knows I'm on her side what ever happens, because I know she doesn't bot.


Yes, I took this just a minute or so ago...

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth about Itonami
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*get ine the bandwagon*

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth about Itonami
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:24 pm 
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Casey613 wrote:
Let's say tomorrow the police takes you to jail and then you are in court, accused of murdering a peer. They have a street security video of your car being used by the murderer but the face of the person cannot be seen, yet you are accused heavily. The judge says you don't get to be defended, only people against you is allowed to talk, how would you feel?


That's really a bad analogy.

It's more like a murderer using your body to kill people without you knowing ala GITS. Even though you didn't do it your body still committed the crime. And the person that took over your body still has access and can do it again whenever he wants. So the police lock you up for the good of everyone, even though you're not really guilty.

And that's all IF someone really had control of you the whole time, and it's not some story you used to save yourself.

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth about Itonami
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Reise wrote:
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Let's say tomorrow the police takes you to jail and then you are in court, accused of murdering a peer. They have a street security video of your car being used by the murderer but the face of the person cannot be seen, yet you are accused heavily. The judge says you don't get to be defended, only people against you is allowed to talk, how would you feel?


That's really a bad analogy.

It's more like a murderer using your body to kill people without you knowing ala GITS. Even thought you didn't do it your body still committed the crime. And the person that took over your body still has access and can do it again whenever he wants. So the police lock you up for the good of everyone, even though you're not really guilty.

And that's all IF someone really had control of you the whole time, and it's not some story you used to save yourself.


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 Post subject: Re: The Truth about Itonami
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Reise wrote:
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Let's say tomorrow the police takes you to jail and then you are in court, accused of murdering a peer. They have a street security video of your car being used by the murderer but the face of the person cannot be seen, yet you are accused heavily. The judge says you don't get to be defended, only people against you is allowed to talk, how would you feel?


That's really a bad analogy.

It's more like a murderer using your body to kill people without you knowing ala GITS. Even though you didn't do it your body still committed the crime. And the person that took over your body still has access and can do it again whenever he wants. So the police lock you up for the good of everyone, even though you're not really guilty.

And that's all IF someone really had control of you the whole time, and it's not some story you used to save yourself.

You watch the Sci-Fi channel way too much :P

The car = The character.
The unseen face = Supposedly Itonami, but not true.
The crime = Botting.

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth about Itonami
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Reise wrote:
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Let's say tomorrow the police takes you to jail and then you are in court, accused of murdering a peer. They have a street security video of your car being used by the murderer but the face of the person cannot be seen, yet you are accused heavily. The judge says you don't get to be defended, only people against you is allowed to talk, how would you feel?


That's really a bad analogy.

It's more like a murderer using your body to kill people without you knowing ala GITS. Even though you didn't do it your body still committed the crime. And the person that took over your body still has access and can do it again whenever he wants. So the police lock you up for the good of everyone, even though you're not really guilty.

And that's all IF someone really had control of you the whole time, and it's not some story you used to save yourself.


I hate to say this, but your smart

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Still has access to your body?
Dude, we're talking about something that has been posted before and happend over 4 months ago and never happend again. You do realize that video and screenshots from october-november, right?

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth about Itonami
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Still has access to your body?
Dude, we're talking about something that has been posted before and happend over 4 months ago and never happend again. You do realize that video and screenshots from october-november, right?


No, but I don't see how it matters when it's been said that like 5 other people had access. Unless she changed her password and happened to SS something confirming it.

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Now you're just making no sense at all, I'll get her to change the password again and send me a screenshot so I can post it here

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth about Itonami
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Reise wrote:
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Still has access to your body?
Dude, we're talking about something that has been posted before and happend over 4 months ago and never happend again. You do realize that video and screenshots from october-november, right?


No, but I don't see how it matters when it's been said that like 5 other people had access. Unless she changed her password and happened to SS something confirming it.


I want access to her body as well :x :x :x

Fudge I didn't know she did multiple guys :shock:

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Still has access to your body?
Dude, we're talking about something that has been posted before and happend over 4 months ago and never happend again. You do realize that video and screenshots from october-november, right?


No, but I don't see how it matters when it's been said that like 5 other people had access. Unless she changed her password and happened to SS something confirming it.


I want access to her body as well :x :x :x

Fudge I didn't know she did multiple guys :shock:



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Now that'd be something ^^

Would make me go, justice is served ^^

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth about Itonami
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Casey when you get sufficient information to prove Ito did not bot, then pm any mod or admin and they will unlock this thread to allow to post. Until then to avoid the spam that will come the topic will be locked.

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