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 Post subject: Re: Botters are People too!
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:40 am 
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Isnt the point

I dont even play the game

Yet every 2 weeks thats mentioned.

I will delete her if it didnt involve reinstalling SRO. Then people be happy.


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Ryoko wrote:
Isnt the point

I dont even play the game

Yet every 2 weeks thats mentioned.

I will delete her if it didnt involve reinstalling SRO. Then people be happy.


Lol, it was just funny watching u get mad about it. You and anderson both. :wink:

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Its a jab.

A common jab.

A jab the person knows you dont like, but does it anyway because it entertains them.

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Lol, it was just funny watching u get mad about it. You and anderson both. :wink:


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But then won't people remind you of the hybrid you had? lol :P

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 Post subject: Re: Botters are People too!
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what i would like to know is how will banning bot players from this forum
will make your sro a better game, what is everyone trying to prove? was there even a reason for this decision of the banning of bots from SRF? i don't think banning people from this forum will stop them from botting if that was the case

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Oooh I get horny whenever someone does :roll:

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what does this have to do with the topic ?


nice thread by the way it just explains how SRO is split in two , cheaters and non-cheaters.

The cheater is mostly the people that got smacked around when they were lower level and they couldnt make it to higher lvl's to kick the bullies arse. Instead he went on the dark side and started cheating to try to catch him up.
But botting is like smoking once u start you cant stop it. Many people that I talk to on Venus about making them quit botting just tell me they cant. One even told me that his hand hurts if he plays more then 1hour straight.
Then take a break and come back to play later***

You dont need to leave your character rolling 24/7 specially with Avalon on venus now we started to murder them for fun or to get them killed by doing euro effects on them while their AFK.

I am turkish but I dont like the in-game turks why ?
Because turks are a power greedy nation and 90% of them if not 99.99% of them bot for one reason. They got bullied and they want to bully now. When they reach level 80 they start to pvp and say ..... you mather ..... you sister. They always complain when they lose yet they still bot even tho its not efficient.

Lazy people.

Lazyness is another factor in a botters life. They are mostly babysitting but yet cant play the game. For instance we had this guy yesterday botting near our party at the generals. We gave him status effects and got him killed 3times. Then he finally shows up and comes against us. I went purple on him so did Fly and the others, even nightbloom (cleric) zerked and ran after him because he was running away.
How cowardly is that ? or is it that he doesnt know how to attack a person going purple.
Well WE ended up murdering him...by WE i mean all the party murdered him once because he kept coming and coming and coming.
But he never attacked us when we were in murder status (he aimed for the wizards only) coward :D
end of story we didnt die. we worked off our murder pts (me by mob death because i dont kill anything lol) but wizards worked it off in a matter of minutes...lame :D

was a fun night.

Anyways back to subject, bots are lazy, cowardly people. Think of it this way. Its the guy in real life that has to go steal other people to gain more $$$ because its easier then hardwork and earning it.

PEOPLE like PimpC and NuclearSilo that always comes in the threads and supports botting directly or indirectly are also guilty.
PimpC what do you mean by we take botting seriously ? YES ITS SERIOUS.
I played counterstrike for years but got tired of people using cheats (wall hax, zoom hax, headshot hax) how fun is it to play when u run foward and get shot in the head without even seeing the person around you ?

Its the same bullshit in SRO, we work hard to achieve something, the game is made to play by hand. not with a third party program, but people that bot make our hardwork look like nothing.
Yes it has to stop and its serious. If they cant level themselves well they should play.
Do you play Age of Empire with cheats? if yes, is it fun to win all the time without having a competition ?

You get my point.


holy shit dude calm down its a game.......and yea... i do paly Age of Empires with cheats :D i love the little race car with the rock machine guns

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 Post subject: Re: Botters are People too!
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what i would like to know is how will banning bot players from this forum
will make your sro a better game, what is everyone trying to prove? was there even a reason for this decision of the banning of bots from SRF? i don't think banning people from this forum will stop them from botting if that was the case


I don't think it's to make SRO a better game, it's to make SRF a better environment.

Nobody can ban all the botters from SRO, the game's overrun with them.

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 Post subject: Re: Botters are People too!
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so whats the difference if they're banned here will it make a difference, they didn't make a difference when they weren't banned, they didn't force you to bot, they didn't upload bots, they didn't break any rules until they enforced this stupid and pointless one-_- im sure anyone who loved those members would agree with me unlike you other selfish people.

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 Post subject: Re: Botters are People too!
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Gotta say I am right there with you zing and asy. Botters are people too. Flawed people and aren't we all. If I hear another botter break out that vintage whine of "oww my hand hurts" or "I have a life so I babysit my bot" I might die from complications of excessive laughter. All I gotta say is WTF I am as old or older than many of you and I built a pure str blade from 1-80 by hand. Cry me a river nancy boy. Nothing but nothing can justify your actions. In this and in some other parts of your life you are weak. Congrats welcome to the human race. To bad you chose to be less than human by turning on your automated charm.

I have respect for those that work for what they got. You could be mother teresa but if you bot that still diminishes you in my eyes. And don't give me this "Its a game!" bullshit either. You know what lets assume you were a good FPS player. Maybe a real counterstrike pro. I gotta admit best I am is average when it comes to a lot of those games. So I'll tell you what I'll do. I will get an aimbot and snipe you mercilessly from across the map laughing at how weak you are the whole time. And don't you dare get mad or cross with me about it or you will just be a hypocrite. You would enjoy that right? No? Then why the hell do you think I like to have to deal with your aimless wall humping ksing char for hours on end. Tell you what it is not because I am jealous. It is because I am actually trying to play the game and you are just trying to ruin it.

A jerk is a jerk. Just because you bot does not automatically make you a jerk. Because you bot does not make you a jerk. Because you are a legit does not make you a nice person. Anyone who thinks there is any strong correlation is fooling themselves. It is just more typical in botters because of their unjustified sense of entitlement at all cost.

Finally removing botters from this community is not a service to the legitimate players. It is a service to the botters. For years now we have let you participate and feigned turning a blind eye to your illicit activities. You took this as acceptance and indeed condoning your actions. We apologize for leading you on. We never approved of it. And for this mistreatment we apologize. Please graciously accept our collective boot upside your collective ass.

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 Post subject: Re: Botters are People too!
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so whats the difference if they're banned here will it make a difference, they didn't make a difference when they weren't banned, they didn't force you to bot, they didn't upload bots, they didn't break any rules until they enforced this stupid and pointless one-_- im sure anyone who loved those members would agree with me unlike you other selfish people.


I'm not the person you should be asking.

I honestly don't care either way. I realized a long time ago that SRO sucks balls, anybody that spends any amount of time playing is just wasting it. Botter or otherwise.

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if u love those banned botters so much, interact wit them thru msn or aim. they're definitely not welcome here.

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LMAO ping_lo. Very well said. Couldn't agree more.

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 Post subject: Re: Botters are People too!
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bLuE_fLaMe wrote:
so whats the difference if they're banned here will it make a difference, they didn't make a difference when they weren't banned, they didn't force you to bot, they didn't upload bots, they didn't break any rules until they enforced this stupid and pointless one-_- im sure anyone who loved those members would agree with me unlike you other selfish people.


I'm not the person you should be asking.

I honestly don't care either way. I realized a long time ago that SRO sucks balls, anybody that spends any amount of time playing is just wasting it. Botter or otherwise.


then why should people like you that don't even play the game have a say in this ESPECIALLY a negative say in it. you don't play the game then why should you care? you may have played before to say things at a time like now. i have to play in it but you know what UNLIKE all you people i don't care about whose legit or not, the only thing in the game i would say is a problem is the GOLDBOTS not the bots owned by people, if JoyMax has the ability to stop it and they don't this makes Owned bots somewhat legal, JoyMax is the one to blame here not the people who pay for a service that JoyMax chooses not to have authority over, aside from that no one can give me a straight answer about why we are banning harmless (to this forum) players, if someone wanted to suck-up to JoyMax then you should have just left everything the way it was just like the way it's left now, JoyMax is only keeping goldbots because they know by flooding the server with them people will buy premiums and they will get rich off it. so do we still need to keep banning nice people from this forum? don't be shy now post why you don't want people like Ito and Luoma who have done nothing wrong to the actual forum? huh?

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ban the botters ^^ so the srf will have less online ppl , less active threads , and it start to diee :D

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ban the botters ^^ so the srf will have less online ppl , less active threads , and it start to diee :D


wow someone has figured it out and its true this forum will die

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then why should people like you that don't even play the game have a say in this ESPECIALLY a negative say in it. you don't play the game then why should you care? you may have played before to say things at a time like now. i have to play in it but you know what UNLIKE all you people i don't care about whose legit or not, the only thing in the game i would say is a problem is the GOLDBOTS not the bots owned by people, if JoyMax has the ability to stop it and they don't this makes Owned bots somewhat legal, JoyMax is the one to blame here not the people who pay for a service that JoyMax chooses not to have authority over, aside from that no one can give me a straight answer about why we are banning harmless (to this forum) players, if someone wanted to suck-up to JoyMax then you should have just left everything the way it was just like the way it's left now, JoyMax is only keeping goldbots because they know by flooding the server with them people will buy premiums and they will get rich off it. so do we still need to keep banning nice people from this forum? don't be shy now post why you don't want people like Ito and Luoma who have done nothing wrong to the actual forum? huh?

You do realise majority of player bots run their own private goldbots, right? If you haven't seen that, go look in some of these threads to see how many clients people have open.

If Reise has played he has more then enough reason to have a say on the bot problem.

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then why should people like you that don't even play the game have a say in this ESPECIALLY a negative say in it. you don't play the game then why should you care? you may have played before to say things at a time like now. i have to play in it but you know what UNLIKE all you people i don't care about whose legit or not, the only thing in the game i would say is a problem is the GOLDBOTS not the bots owned by people, if JoyMax has the ability to stop it and they don't this makes Owned bots somewhat legal, JoyMax is the one to blame here not the people who pay for a service that JoyMax chooses not to have authority over, aside from that no one can give me a straight answer about why we are banning harmless (to this forum) players, if someone wanted to suck-up to JoyMax then you should have just left everything the way it was just like the way it's left now, JoyMax is only keeping goldbots because they know by flooding the server with them people will buy premiums and they will get rich off it. so do we still need to keep banning nice people from this forum? don't be shy now post why you don't want people like Ito and Luoma who have done nothing wrong to the actual forum? huh?

You do realise majority of player bots run their own private goldbots, right? If you haven't seen that, go look in some of these threads to see how many clients people have open.

If Reise has played he has more then enough reason to have a say on the bot problem.


where do you get that player bots run their own goldbots?? Please tell me where you would get an idea like that?

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then why should people like you that don't even play the game have a say in this ESPECIALLY a negative say in it. you don't play the game then why should you care?


I don't care, I just said that. The reason I'm for banning botters is because frankly all they produce on SRF is bitching and whining, and that's it. God damn bot drama leaks into every area of the forum, just look at how long it took fools to get over BlackFox. They hurt SRF's image. Hell look at the damn posts in this forum if you need proof of that.

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you may have played before to say things at a time like now. i have to play in it but you know what UNLIKE all you people i don't care about whose legit or not, the only thing in the game i would say is a problem is the GOLDBOTS not the bots owned by people, if JoyMax has the ability to stop it and they don't this makes Owned bots somewhat legal, JoyMax is the one to blame here not the people who pay for a service that JoyMax chooses not to have authority over,


If Joymax wanted people running 50 clients at once with bots going, I doubt there would be a problem. If it was an intended and legit gameplay mechanic then there would be no hate towards botters, everybody would be one. Fact is the game isn't meant to be played that way, and people who use bots are shitting on anyone else who actually invested real time playing. The sad part is SRO is such a classic Korean grindfest MMO that most people can't force themselves to bother playing legitimately. But ultimately it's the player's choice to cheat.

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aside from that no one can give me a straight answer about why we are banning harmless (to this forum) players, if someone wanted to suck-up to JoyMax then you should have just left everything the way it was just like the way it's left now, JoyMax is only keeping goldbots because they know by flooding the server with them people will buy premiums and they will get rich off it. so do we still need to keep banning nice people from this forum? don't be shy now post why you don't want people like Ito and Luoma who have done nothing wrong to the actual forum? huh?


The straight answer is this: This forum is run by the admins, they say what goes and what doesn't. End of story. Nobody is sucking-up to Joymax, everybody here knows Joymax isn't even worth the money some fools pay to log in.

Who are these "nice" people you're talking about? Were they nice because Itonami happened to be a girl and acted nice on this forum, put smilies and hearts after every post? Or because Luoma did the same? This is the internet pal, nobody is who they seem. That's why you get all these "nice" people fessing up and admitting to cheating, they aren't exactly the precious angels you thought they were. So now we have the admins getting sick and tired of all the BS botters bring to SRF, and they're taking care of it pretty well if you ask me.

Personally I have nothing against them, I just know to be fair you need to treat everyone equally. To ban one botter means you have to ban them all, whether they were the nicest people on earth or total assholes.

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I don't care, I just said that. The reason I'm for banning botters is because frankly all they produce on SRF is bitching and whining, and that's it.


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<Serious tone> +1 I agree, although I think not all botters do that (Luoma etc) the rest of them do and they deserve a ban for good </serious tone>


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ban the botters ^^ so the srf will have less online ppl , less active threads , and it start to diee :D
probably more joined yesterday than got banned.
for each banned player there will be probably 2 new accounts that is how it also goes in silkroad.

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böttr iss naut ppl!, u böt symptheezer! U desurve da be burnt öt staak foor your ignorans, u bästard!

rofl , xuchu .. ahh pls go back play at venice ^^they sell bot cards for gold at union chat :D


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where do you get that player bots run their own goldbots?? Please tell me where you would get an idea like that?


from screens in the thread " post your desktop " but i have alot botting friends and i insure u they wont pay 30 $ for clinetless bots " where i got this info ? from the crumpets thread :D "
i bet the dont even know .. i though its some special program .. but not a bot hehe ^^

The straight answer is this: This forum is run by the admins, they say what goes and what doesn't. End of story. Nobody is sucking-up to Joymax, everybody here knows Joymax isn't even worth the money some fools pay to log in.

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Who are these "nice" people you're talking about? Were they nice because Itonami happened to be a girl and acted nice on this forum, put smilies and hearts after every post? Or because Luoma did the same? This is the internet pal, nobody is who they seem. That's why you get all these "nice" people fessing up and admitting to cheating, they aren't exactly the precious angels you thought they were. So now we have the admins getting sick and tired of all the BS botters bring to SRF, and they're taking care of it pretty well if you ask me.

Personally I have nothing against them, I just know to be fair you need to treat everyone equally. To ban one botter means you have to ban them all, whether they were the nicest people on earth or total assholes.

internet also have nice people , just cauze u never got to know those people dont start shitting on them ^^ .. bot isnt cheating , bot is a way for some people to enjoy the game , u dont like it ok . but its not cheating , and even if it is , using a bot as a cheat dont make u a cheater or bad person , when u get a friend one day and he turn into a botter .. though he is trust worthy and everything u will know what i mean :love: .

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böttr iss naut ppl!, u böt symptheezer! U desurve da be burnt öt staak foor your ignorans, u bästard!

rofl , xuchu .. ahh pls go back play at venice ^^they sell bot cards for gold at union chat :D


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internet also have nice people , just cauze u never got to know those people dont start shitting on them ^^ .. bot isnt cheating , bot is a way for some people to enjoy the game , u dont like it ok . but its not cheating , and even if it is , using a bot as a cheat dont make u a cheater or bad person , when u get a friend one day and he turn into a botter .. though he is trust worthy and everything u will know what i mean :love: .


Thats why I said that last bit. To be fair here they have to ban even the nice people, otherwise it would be hypocritical.

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[where do you get that player bots run their own goldbots?? Please tell me where you would get an idea like that?

viewtopic.php?f=72&t=79516

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viewtopic.php?f=72&t=79421

Three examples right there.

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So now we have the admins getting sick and tired of all the BS botters bring to SRF, and they're taking care of it pretty well if you ask me.


what botters are coming to this forum? before this stupid rule was added everything was fine. I'm sure you would agree with me on that one because i came on here almost everyday and never noticed a problem due to users who bot. there is probably members who still bot and i notice no problems
from anyone, the only problem right now is this forum section

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[where do you get that player bots run their own goldbots?? Please tell me where you would get an idea like that?

viewtopic.php?f=72&t=79516

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rofl , xuchu .. ahh pls go back play at venice ^^they sell bot cards for gold at union chat :D


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So now we have the admins getting sick and tired of all the BS botters bring to SRF, and they're taking care of it pretty well if you ask me.


what botters are coming to this forum? before this stupid rule was added everything was fine. I'm sure you would agree with me on that one because i came on here almost everyday and never noticed a problem due to users who bot. there is probably members who still bot and i notice no problems
from anyone, the only problem right now is this forum section


Believe me over the history of SRF there have been multiple cases where massive arguments have started because of someone accusing someone else of botting. If you want to find them, look yourself.

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 Post subject: Re: Botters are People too!
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