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 Post subject: Botters are People too!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:54 pm 
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Botters are indeed people too, just troubled or greedy people.

The want, the addiction, and false justification:

To be simplistic, botting isn't a need it is a want. The want is created by the addiction which the player has accumulated over time in playing Silkroad Online. Though, what truly formulates the want into actual actions of botting aren't the reasons these botters are sprouting out. It is, in a vicious cycle, the addiction of Silkroad Online with the irresponsibility in their life which leads to botting. The irresponsibility and the greed of want fuses together to create the reasons these players say today to try and justify the cheating. Which reasons are in simplistic example, "I have a life."

The greed and no sportsmanship:

The greed to gain levels isn't always created because the player has problems in their life, it can be simply just greed in its truest forum; the want to gain higher in rank (i.e. levels) without actual effort in gaining by oneself. The greed, laziness, and the effort of wanting to cheat procreates the actual cheating to gain the desire goals. Having no moral in fairness or a sense of legitimacy to stop them, they continue to their road down in cheating.

Without hope and the greed:

"If you can't beat 'em, join 'em." This can be your die-hard-has-been legit. Having losing faith in legitimacy with the multiplication of greed, they head down the road of cheating. Addiction can be added to this section, as the greed can be birthed by addiction.

The justification:

In essence botters bot simply because of greed and addiction. Following greed and addiction can be tailed by minorities of reasons; such as "I'm doing bad in school, getting D's and F's!" These suppose "justifications" are false. There isn't some mythical force that is forcing you to keep playing as you fail school education. It is you, your addiction. It is the greed that submits you to the ideas of botting. In the end, choosing the bot is your intention; and it is cheating. You are a cheater. No reasons will justify your cheating; unless of course it's a life threatening situation where some person is pointing a weapon towards your head and telling you to bot or you will die; which is fairly- no, extremely doubtful.

If something is ruining your life such as a game, I believe it's time to leave the game. Not to jump on board with cheating and ruin the game for people who believe in sportsmanship. Understand your addiction.

Though, (ro)bots do help people in a way...

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 Post subject: Re: Botters are People too!
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 Post subject: Re: Botters are People too!
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Sad enough as it is, it would be true for the majority of people. Look at some of the bots admission posts here. They say they just want to be high level, blah blah blah.

A lot of people need to understand that the game is to be enjoyed for fun. That you can go at your own pace. No one but yourself is forcing you to be Lv80, decked in SoSun with a few billion gold.

Though I disagree with the life statement. I think there's a good chance majority of bots babysit them all the time; at least in all the cases I've dealt with. Some life that must be for them.

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The reasons varies, but in the end it always linked to greed and/or addiction.


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 Post subject: Re: Botters are People too!
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The reasons varies, but in the end it always linked to greed and/or addiction.


I would even go a step further: botters are a bunch of losers.

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The reasons varies, but in the end it always linked to greed and/or addiction.


I would even go a step further: botters are a bunch of losers.


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Oooh I get horny whenever someone does :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Botters are People too!
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oh my god yall take botting seriously.

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 Post subject: Re: Botters are People too!
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Oooh I get horny whenever someone does :roll:

:P


what does this have to do with the topic ?


nice thread by the way it just explains how SRO is split in two , cheaters and non-cheaters.

The cheater is mostly the people that got smacked around when they were lower level and they couldnt make it to higher lvl's to kick the bullies arse. Instead he went on the dark side and started cheating to try to catch him up.
But botting is like smoking once u start you cant stop it. Many people that I talk to on Venus about making them quit botting just tell me they cant. One even told me that his hand hurts if he plays more then 1hour straight.
Then take a break and come back to play later***

You dont need to leave your character rolling 24/7 specially with Avalon on venus now we started to murder them for fun or to get them killed by doing euro effects on them while their AFK.

I am turkish but I dont like the in-game turks why ?
Because turks are a power greedy nation and 90% of them if not 99.99% of them bot for one reason. They got bullied and they want to bully now. When they reach level 80 they start to pvp and say ..... you mather ..... you sister. They always complain when they lose yet they still bot even tho its not efficient.

Lazy people.

Lazyness is another factor in a botters life. They are mostly babysitting but yet cant play the game. For instance we had this guy yesterday botting near our party at the generals. We gave him status effects and got him killed 3times. Then he finally shows up and comes against us. I went purple on him so did Fly and the others, even nightbloom (cleric) zerked and ran after him because he was running away.
How cowardly is that ? or is it that he doesnt know how to attack a person going purple.
Well WE ended up murdering him...by WE i mean all the party murdered him once because he kept coming and coming and coming.
But he never attacked us when we were in murder status (he aimed for the wizards only) coward :D
end of story we didnt die. we worked off our murder pts (me by mob death because i dont kill anything lol) but wizards worked it off in a matter of minutes...lame :D

was a fun night.

Anyways back to subject, bots are lazy, cowardly people. Think of it this way. Its the guy in real life that has to go steal other people to gain more $$$ because its easier then hardwork and earning it.

PEOPLE like PimpC and NuclearSilo that always comes in the threads and supports botting directly or indirectly are also guilty.
PimpC what do you mean by we take botting seriously ? YES ITS SERIOUS.
I played counterstrike for years but got tired of people using cheats (wall hax, zoom hax, headshot hax) how fun is it to play when u run foward and get shot in the head without even seeing the person around you ?

Its the same bullshit in SRO, we work hard to achieve something, the game is made to play by hand. not with a third party program, but people that bot make our hardwork look like nothing.
Yes it has to stop and its serious. If they cant level themselves well they should play.
Do you play Age of Empire with cheats? if yes, is it fun to win all the time without having a competition ?

You get my point.

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 Post subject: Re: Botters are People too!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:33 pm 
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Its fun with 'aegis' cheat :P

lol...but seriously..dude..you need to chill a bit..no matter what ppl do every game will always have cheaters..you should take it for granted and just have no business with bots/ignore them instead of pissing yourself off.

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 Post subject: Re: Botters are People too!
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Really ignorant post there Asyamura.

My advice is, you need to realize that its a video game and what you do in a video game is not how you are in real life. No if I bot im not a coward in RL, no I dont cheat at things I do, etc..

That being said I played legit for about a year, and quit after I didnt feel like competing with gold bots and spending my money to be able to lvl. You might wanna try Age of Empires 3 online its pretty good, no cheaters for you to think about all day.

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hootsh wrote:
Its fun with 'aegis' cheat :P

lol...but seriously..dude..you need to chill a bit..no matter what ppl do every game will always have cheaters..you should take it for granted and just have no business with bots/ignore them instead of pissing yourself off.


EXCUSE ME ? everygame doesnt have cheaters. I played Everquest from Oct25th 1999 until 2005 there was no SUCH thing has botters/cheaters. Even the gold companies showed up in 2003 and couldnt last more then a year because there was very few support for them. No one cared or bought gold.

I played Vanguard for 7months another SOE game again NO CHEATS gold sellers ya there was, but guess what gold sellers there cannot use a a third party program so they were forced to play SOLO or to party get drops and sell it then collect gold from other chinese players and sell it to others.

So dont come here and tell me to take it for granted.

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 Post subject: Re: Botters are People too!
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Oooh I get horny whenever someone does :roll:

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what does this have to do with the topic ?






none of your business.

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 Post subject: Re: Botters are People too!
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Really ignorant post there Asyamura.

My advice is, you need to realize that its a video game and what you do in a video game is not how you are in real life. No if I bot im not a coward in RL, no I dont cheat at things I do, etc..

That being said I played legit for about a year, and quit after I didnt feel like competing with gold bots and spending my money to be able to lvl. You might wanna try Age of Empires 3 online its pretty good, no cheaters for you to think about all day.


when it doesnt suit you, yes its an ignorant post. I am sorry to say but you are a coward, your just one of those bot-supporter cant admit to it but ill defend it, keep going seems like your doing fine.

BTW let me remind you that is not a REAL LIFE forum, its a forum about SRO ! were talking about in game CHEATERS not RL, I just stated up some examples so people could relate to something if you have a better one then type it here.

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 Post subject: Re: Botters are People too!
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Really ignorant post there Asyamura.

My advice is, you need to realize that its a video game and what you do in a video game is not how you are in real life. No if I bot im not a coward in RL, no I dont cheat at things I do, etc..

That being said I played legit for about a year, and quit after I didnt feel like competing with gold bots and spending my money to be able to lvl. You might wanna try Age of Empires 3 online its pretty good, no cheaters for you to think about all day.


when it doesnt suit you, yes its an ignorant post. I am sorry to say but you are a coward, your just one of those bot-supporter cant admit to it but ill defend it, keep going seems like your doing fine.

BTW let me remind you that is not a REAL LIFE forum, its a forum about SRO ! were talking about in game CHEATERS not RL, I just stated up some examples so people could relate to something if you have a better one then type it here.



i BEG you to stfu.

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 Post subject: Re: Botters are People too!
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Really ignorant post there Asyamura.

My advice is, you need to realize that its a video game and what you do in a video game is not how you are in real life. No if I bot im not a coward in RL, no I dont cheat at things I do, etc..

That being said I played legit for about a year, and quit after I didnt feel like competing with gold bots and spending my money to be able to lvl. You might wanna try Age of Empires 3 online its pretty good, no cheaters for you to think about all day.


when it doesnt suit you, yes its an ignorant post. I am sorry to say but you are a coward, your just one of those bot-supporter cant admit to it but ill defend it, keep going seems like your doing fine.

BTW let me remind you that is not a REAL LIFE forum, its a forum about SRO ! were talking about in game CHEATERS not RL, I just stated up some examples so people could relate to something if you have a better one then type it here.


I have no idea what your talking about I thought you said everyone was who botted is a cheating cowardly person in RL and Im saying its not true!

But rlly I dont care that much about any of this lol so im out.

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 Post subject: Re: Botters are People too!
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Asyamura wrote:
hootsh wrote:
Its fun with 'aegis' cheat :P

lol...but seriously..dude..you need to chill a bit..no matter what ppl do every game will always have cheaters..you should take it for granted and just have no business with bots/ignore them instead of pissing yourself off.


EXCUSE ME ? everygame doesnt have cheaters. I played Everquest from Oct25th 1999 until 2005 there was no SUCH thing has botters/cheaters. Even the gold companies showed up in 2003 and couldnt last more then a year because there was very few support for them. No one cared or bought gold.

I played Vanguard for 7months another SOE game again NO CHEATS gold sellers ya there was, but guess what gold sellers there cannot use a a third party program so they were forced to play SOLO or to party get drops and sell it then collect gold from other chinese players and sell it to others.

So dont come here and tell me to take it for granted.


Alright..that point put aside (although nothing is perfect..if a game dont have cheaters..its probably because its not as famous/good as this game lol..so good support compensates for bad gfx..etc)
So SRO support sux..everyone knows it..that doesnt mean you should rant about it and make everyone feel like they wanna cut themselves lol..you know SRO have bots and yet you still play.

Imo you're taking the game too seriously..i mean look at the poor heroo..you made him beg :(

Lol.

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Life has cheaters, yet people still live on. This implies to the game Silkroad Online. It has cheaters, yet we still play. Why? Because we value Silkroad as we value life.

Though, this does not mean cheaters should be welcomed in open arms or not to be ignored. Cheaters gain unfair advantage, no one likes that when you're playing fair; it ruins the fun. Play a game of cards with a few friends, someone cheats. Tell me, does the fun factor goes up or down?

How about winning? When you cheat, how much does the winning feel? Is it amazing? Compare winning with cheats to winning legitimately.

Cheating takes away more than it gives. It gives to the unfair and takes away from the fair. It takes away the life of the game.

-- Hope you can understand why people get mad at cheaters. They ruin those who play fair their fun.


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Why? Because we value Silkroad as we value life.


lol...just lol

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PimpC wrote:
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Why? Because we value Silkroad as we value life.


lol...just lol


You have to understand everything has value. Demons are moralized as evil, angels are moralized as good. A video game has value of being good or bad. It has value of you liking it or not.

Depending on liking it or disliking it results your value towards it. Just because it's the internet or some fairyland doesn't mean you should look down on it.

If that's the sort of moral code you go with: "look down on those who value certain things," then you're just ignorant.

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Well to a certain degree I agree with you saying that a videogame has a certain value (else you wouldn't play it would you?) But to state that you value Silkroad as you value life is a bit ..... well a bit too farfetched.

But then again I'm not addicted.... yet


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Shimrod wrote:
Well to a certain degree I agree with you saying that a videogame has a certain value (else you wouldn't play it would you?) But to state that you value Silkroad as you value life is a bit ..... well a bit too farfetched.

But then again I'm not addicted.... yet


I may have worded wrongly, but I was simply saying you value it in the same way as you value life. You perceive life then you value it. You perceive Silkroad then you value it.


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Selective morality is cute.

"I may not be moral here, but I swear, Im moral over there"

Uhhh huh.

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Anyways back to subject, bots are lazy, cowardly people. Think of it this way. Its the guy in real life that has to go steal other people to gain more $$$ because its easier then hardwork and earning it.


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BTW let me remind you that is not a REAL LIFE forum, its a forum about SRO ! were talking about in game CHEATERS not RL, I just stated up some examples so people could relate to something if you have a better one then type it here.


I dont get the point. In your 1st post you compared botters with real life criminals, in the other you said this has nothing to do with reallife... :banghead:

And i think it's really ignorant to compare botters with RL criminals! (I don't support botting just for your info). And i spent really many time now since yesterday reading a lot of threads and posts and some where from you that i remember. It seems to me you are in a way addicted to this game that really should warn everybody. And if i use the same compares like you: If someone doesn't do what you want him to do or he is breaking some rules then you take your gun out of closet and shoot him down? This is a serious question! It is like you comparing botters with RL criminals!

I have played long time on Xian, deleted my accounts and quit for a real long time and now start all over on an old server. I see many things have changed since then. And it scares me, especially if i read your posts here in SRF!


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Selective morality is cute.

"I may not be moral here, but I swear, Im moral over there"

Uhhh huh.


The truth is you have no idea what goes on in random lives, or what kind of morals they have just cause they bot. Ok now im rlly out of this thread.

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PimpC wrote:
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Selective morality is cute.

"I may not be moral here, but I swear, Im moral over there"

Uhhh huh.


The truth is you have no idea what goes on in random lives, or what kind of morals they have just cause they bot. Ok now im rlly out of this thread.


Sure you do. People do not really act out of character. They know botting is wrong and that people hate it. They hate it too when they start playing. But they do not have the fiber to harden themselves against the temptation. Botting is a character flaw like lying or petty theft. You can say it is a very small flaw if you like, but cheating is still a flaw.

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But they do not have the fiber to harden themselves against the temptation. Botting is a character flaw like lying or petty theft.


Someone going to work...turning the bot on and coming back home playing legit is a character flaw.

Someone playing 12 hours a day and doing nothing else is also a character flaw. O_o

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PimpC wrote:
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Selective morality is cute.

"I may not be moral here, but I swear, Im moral over there"

Uhhh huh.


The truth is you have no idea what goes on in random lives, or what kind of morals they have just cause they bot. Ok now im rlly out of this thread.

This is a MMORPG. I doubt anyone is seriously role-playing. An asshole in game is most likely an asshole outside the game, given that similar circumstances occur. If their willing to break the rules in a game because they see it as petty, I'm pretty sure they would probably do the same outside the game if they felt a situation/object was petty in nature.

There are very few people who actually role-play in game.

Notice how I'm avoiding the use of "real life." People don't die when they log onto Silkroad. Your actions in game are a reflection of your "real life" core personality.

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