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probably because you didnt upgrade, or didnt control your units, and sometimes more downgraded tier > less upgraded tier

oh and plus, a selection of units. When you say void rays & stalkers killed your phoenixes,you have to take in mind that phoenixes only attack air, just fyi if u didnt know :>

hm... just upload directly to SRF then, attach it to your post. Or megaupload or something :/

check out my pro zerg

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G5VR01ER

toss in 2v2 is retardedly weak, way too susceptible to rushes

hm...interesting game lol

some of the big stuff u did in game:

i noticed that you placed ur nexus a few spots away from the optimal position for thos expos, and especially for that high yield spot, u should've killed the destructible rocks first.

u had 10k resources by the time ur opponent ran u over, that is a lot of units not made

build more warpgates, they're ur friend, and use ur chrono boost as much as you can

you let your opponent build up, as soon as you saw those row of cannons at his natural expo, you should've taken over the entire map.

ur observers came out a bit late, always chrono boost ur first obs, unless u'r in trouble or going for a push early on

build more gates and keep unit production constant. don't let one warpgate idle for too long

you had 45 minutes to tech up. counter his turtling by taking the map and massing carriers, lol

you should build more sentries, they would've helped you a lot

go for some early rushes, notice how he left his 2nd entrance into his main completely exposed?

EDIT:

oh yea, i noticed that you did rush in a couple of times, but after your first failed rush, you should've noticed how he was just building up to critical mass. that's when you should've realized you needed to macro as well, don't rush in with a couple of units, build up to max pop.

a couple of high templars wouldn't hurt as well. cast some storms on him would've helped you tons.

you also had way more than is necessary probes for each expo. each mineral patch can take up to 3 probes and anything after that is useless, so if a mineral line has 8 patches, that's around 24 probes to saturation. u had like 50 on one patch once. u should've expoed again.

That toss was pretty good, I'm glad you were able to survive his one colossus harass =)


Yeah, this had nothing to do with micro, this was a gigantic macro lost for you. 3 things to work on and you'll definitely get to silver np, gold if you get good enough at it.

1. Get a build order. I dunno if AoE players still do boom strats, but I loved to use those whenever I AoE lan with anyone. (33 min imperial age 100 vil in AoE II is always fun) Same with starcraft II, you need a build. I'm going to assume you play toss and not random so here's a very strong toss build order. Numbers denote your food count (max food not listed).
   
   • 6 - start probe production, always have a probe going in your nexus
   • 9 - pylon
   • 11 - boost your nexus
   • 13 - gateway
   • 14/15 - gas (14 or 15 food is fine, sometimes it comes out a tiny bit late)
   • 16 - pylon
   • 17/18 - cycore
   Always start with this, build a zealot from your gateway as soon as you have the money after cycore started. Get your second gas after cycore, then add 3 more gateways. Continuously pump probes until 40+ food, then stop. Start chrono boosting either the warp gate research or gateway units. Keep making units from all your warp gates and attack at ~50 food. bring a probe to put a forward pylon to keep warping units in. This should win you ever game against everyone up to gold, hell, it'll beat 60% of gold players if you do it well.
   
   If you do it super well, then it'll beat everyone in the PvP and PvZ match up, even plats. (I use this in plat all the time) Auto win against fast tech in PvP and pool first fast expand zerg who doesn't make 30 spine crawlers.
2. Expansion location matter, make your nexuses as close to the minerals as possible. It's not like AoE where 3 extra feet from the tree/gold doesn't really matter in the long run.
3. Max food is 200, don't stop making pylons/units until you hit that mark. Do not get pylon blocked, make sure you're ahead of your supply by at least 1 pylon, 2 if you have 2 bases. (i.e. you should be at 76/92 opposed to 76/82 because you'll block yourself for your next wave of units.

That's it, if you get those 3 down you'll be a gold player in beta, plat if you're lucky.

sarcasm, my main enemy

What league is that?

silver

You're much better than silver :/ My friend plays in silver and he doesn't know how to detect dark templars with overseers yet xD

yea, when i first started, i got placed in bronze cuz i wasn't used to all the new units

i'm at 30/21 right now, rank 9 silver, hopefully i'll get into gold, then plat soon

I'm in copper.. I assume that is under bronze.. lol

God I hate the stupid zerg flyer that throws shit on the floor.

http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?to ... 7&sid=5000



So play it up while you can. (or download a lot of UMS maps lol)

Hmmmm

realy hard game ^^

nooooooooooooooooooooooo

also, i couldnt watch the replays cause mega uplaod said the filesl were temporaily down.

Just a heads up, giving my us account to a friend. If you want a game just ask "r u from srf?" he'll understand, and say no if it's not me. He's pretty bad btw, he used to borrow my asia account to sneak in games now and again.

lol, how are we gunna reign over the platinums now :o

Da_Realest, i'm no expert at sc2, i'm not even that good, but this is how u macro up in 15 minutes:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TBQYR4I4

notice the little stuff that i do

i expoed when i had a big enough force, and i teched up just enough to feel comfortable with my army make up

my 2nd expo is always usually a high yield one, but this game went by quick enough that i didn't need it

notice how i stopped the other protoss' late expo? that army make up is able to kill dozens of cannons in your pvp (cannons are good to stop a couple of units, but against an army no way)

u need to get ur obs inside ur opponent's base ASAP, it's important. i saw him teching up, it was a bit useless and a waste of minerals because he only had one base. he can't sustain a tech up AND build up an army, so i knew that i could overrun him.

Aw what, I was planning on making SC2 my "summer game" for the lonely rainy days

Does come out late July.. so.. hmm

Don't worry, it's not the end of beta xD Just the end of the first phase of beta. They're taking servers down for 1-2 weeks and then second phase starts.

Actually I'll have to study for my finals during that period. Good move Blizzard

Gotta criticize the build order. Going 10 gate no chrono vs. 13 gate chrono zealot is the same thing if you're defending, by the time his 10 gate no chrono zealot gets to your base 13 gate chrono zealot will already be out, the difference is you're out 2 extra probes cause you didn't chrono your nexus at 11. Double gate is good if you're going to zealot pressure, which you didn't, you just built a lot of zealots to sit at home for some reason :/ 13 gate -> gas -> cycore -> gas then add gates or tech is much better cause you have enough gas to be flexible. Plus zealot + sentry >>> mass zealot because sentry cost 50/100, which frees up minerals to add gateways and have a good army while using only gas. Plus Force Field is overpowered.

hm...should i have gone 9 pylon 13 gate?

yea, i built those zlots cuz i saw he went 2gate, so i placed that 2nd gate just in case he was gonna rush me with zlots =[ , which, sort of happened but not really lol

so i switched up my BO and went back to my original plan which was stalkers/immortals/sentries.

Yeah, 9 pylon 13 gate is standard. Zealots kinda suck as the game moves on, once you saw he wasn't zealot rushing should've taken 2nd gas and teched to warp gates.