Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *Full Gameplay Videos Added 7/25/11*
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:16 pm
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iSinnnn wrote:
one thing i was thinking about, which i hope they wouldn't do this since they didn't in gears 2 but. in non-respawn gametypes like execution/warzone/wingman, if they allow you to change your weapon(s) between rounds the game will be broken. it'd be like rock paper scissors rushing the weapons on execution and warzone specifically.
Yea, I dont know how i feel about switching whenever you want. Even with the option many people just used retro and a sawed off, and as you said, you can adjust how you play to it once you get used to it. They couldnt have asked for a more active beta, so I hope they really took their time to adjust imabalances or anything needing adjusting.
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Sawed off Distance is fine. I have been so close I could melee someone and it didn't kill them, but I almost always get 1 shot from ppl that do the same. It's a matter of Aiming before firing, or firing from the hip really. It makes a bigger difference than you'd realize. I actually got the most enjoyment with it from ppl rolling into me trying to blast me and I got them first. Great feeling.
I hated going against Retro's, but I loved using it solely because of the bayonet. That thing was fun to get kills with. Retro + actives = Brutal as well. I wouldn't have em change a thing about it because it's so fun to use.
Im not sure how you missed people when you can melee them lol. I saw people clearing anyone remotely in front of them and even to the sides of dead ahead, i hope they at least have to aim for it and its not hip fire that does that.
I had one game where a guy moved with the bayonet run all game through Thrashball. turning corners, entering a room, whatever it was. I should have the gameplay still. I remember is name too, X Rainspider X. somethin to that effect. Anyone I loathed and remember their name after this long was usually someone rocking a Retro & S/O. Bayonet was cool, but dude I felt godly with that Hammerburst. I wouldn't trade it.
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the problem with both weapons is that they're both so extremely easy to use effectively, and have such a small skill gap between the bottom and the top. then when the majority of the game starts using them it just becomes extremely stale, and even more annoying.
Correct, thats what bugged me. If these weapons were lethal as they are but it took some sort of defined skill to use, I would be much more accepting. Id hunt people on the map who exploited them because they drove me nuts. If you were on a team with no teamwork/mics vs a team of Retro/Sawed Offs, you were fugged.
Id be surprised if they changed nothing as well. All the feedback and all the data from just doin the beta should bring some tweaks. I took down Sawed Offs, I took down Retro users, you adjust to it. But some of the shit was ridiculous. And if they can get the digger working better and not dissappearin on a certain part of cover vs a few inches down where it moved through, that would be sweet too. Because I couldnt get enough of that gun lol.
Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *Full Gameplay Videos Added 7/25/11*
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:30 pm
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Blackdragon6 wrote:
Sawed off Distance is fine. I have been so close I could melee someone and it didn't kill them, but I almost always get 1 shot from ppl that do the same. It's a matter of Aiming before firing, or firing from the hip really. It makes a bigger difference than you'd realize. I actually got the most enjoyment with it from ppl rolling into me trying to blast me and I got them first. Great feeling.
I hated going against Retro's, but I loved using it solely because of the bayonet. That thing was fun to get kills with. Retro + actives = Brutal as well. I wouldn't have em change a thing about it because it's so fun to use.
Im not sure how you missed people when you can melee them lol. I saw people clearing anyone remotely in front of them and even to the sides of dead ahead, i hope they at least have to aim for it and its not hip fire that does that.
I had one game where a guy moved with the bayonet run all game through Thrashball. turning corners, entering a room, whatever it was. I should have the gameplay still. I remember is name too, X Rainspider X. somethin to that effect. Anyone I loathed and remember their name after this long was usually someone rocking a Retro & S/O. Bayonet was cool, but dude I felt godly with that Hammerburst. I wouldn't trade it.
It was very few times, and a couple of those times my teammates took em down with a couple bullets. I still loved using the sawed off. 90% of the time it didn't disappoint. Hip fire is what caused that I think. One thing about the bayonet that made me mad was 2 ppl charging at each other is like random to who gets impaled. I had a dude charging at me from like mid distance and I seen him coming so I charged on reflex and I impaled him with 1/2 the distance that he had on me already. Clearly shouldn't have gotten that, but at the time I was happy about it. I never encountered this through the beta, but what happens if you charge into a revved up chainsaw?
Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *Full Gameplay Videos Added 7/25/11*
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:21 pm
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Blackdragon6 wrote:
It was very few times, and a couple of those times my teammates took em down with a couple bullets. I still loved using the sawed off. 90% of the time it didn't disappoint. Hip fire is what caused that I think. One thing about the bayonet that made me mad was 2 ppl charging at each other is like random to who gets impaled. I had a dude charging at me from like mid distance and I seen him coming so I charged on reflex and I impaled him with 1/2 the distance that he had on me already. Clearly shouldn't have gotten that, but at the time I was happy about it. I never encountered this through the beta, but what happens if you charge into a revved up chainsaw?
Good point about bayonets, it was the same case in GoW 1 with the chainsaws which is why they made the duels. they could/should implement something like that. As for revved chainsaw vs bayonet, no clue. Lancers werent a popular sight in beta, they are kinda the gimped gun of the 3 atm. It was mentioned somewhere, here or a video or what, but they need to make it an option again somehow, possibly the tweaks on retro will make that less desirable then it was and people will use some Lancer again.
Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *Full Gameplay Videos Added 7/25/11*
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:21 pm
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chainsaw wins.
edit: my thoughts on bayonet vs bayonet - they both should get stunned. which reminds me. the stun you give to a person when you bayonet charge from not a long enough distance to impale - needs to be shortened. you can just retro hipfire them down before they can do anything, might as well be an impale.
Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *Full Gameplay Videos Added 7/25/11*
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:36 am
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iSinnnn wrote:
chainsaw wins.
edit: my thoughts on bayonet vs bayonet - they both should get stunned. which reminds me. the stun you give to a person when you bayonet charge from not a long enough distance to impale - needs to be shortened. you can just retro hipfire them down before they can do anything, might as well be an impale.
You also get pretty banged up by that dont you? (as the one stunned/hit but not impaled). Not like the retro needs help downing people that close anyhow.
Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *Full Gameplay Videos Added 7/25/11*
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:35 am
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yeah exactly. that and the mantle kick stuns were just too long and made it too easy. i understand the mantle kick one needs to be sort of long, because it wouldn't have a point if the person that got kicked could shoot first sometimes due to lag but. with how it was in the beta, i could almost mantle kick, run back, jump over cover again, balance my checkbook, then jump back over and finish my kill.
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:29 pm
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Didnt know what you meant till you explained it out at the end haha. yea, it was kinda long for sure, i loved that addition though. Was pretty nice in my opinion.
I didnt like how I could be against cover though and someone could dash up and kick me first. no idea how it happens, and my reactions arent that bad lol so I dunno.
Just got a Commentary up btw, sounds a bit rehearsed due to Audacity enjoying crashing each time id finish a recording. It was great. And my first one, so that doesnt help. Hopefully I loosen up soon
Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *Gameplay w/ Commentary Added!* 7/28/11
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:53 am
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Omg mantle kick was the worst. Every time it happened I was just like. "Great, I'm dead" It's pretty dang static to so if someone drops into cover opposite of you and is just a split second faster than you rolling away, you gotta take it.. One match I was in, this guy had one kill on the other team .. and it was on me.. Thanks Mantle kick.
Posted a new commentary. Went 41-14 but not earthshaking gameplay. Still was a fun game, wanted to put up a video. So if you wanna see it, there you go .
Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *New Commentary Added* 8/23/11
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:32 am
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I play gears way better when I don't try to shotgun rush lol. Was on gears 2 and someone was running around the corner to one shot me, I just revved up my chainsaw and they ran right into it. I love doing that shit.
Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *New Commentary Added* 8/23/11
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:45 am
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William-CL wrote:
I play gears way better when I don't try to shotgun rush lol. Was on gears 2 and someone was running around the corner to one shot me, I just revved up my chainsaw and they ran right into it. I love doing that shit.
Well in Gears 2 they really made it anti-shotgun rushing like Gears 1. I dont think its as heavy of a slowdown from ranged weps in Gears 3, but knowing when to hang back and use your ranged weapon is key.
But I loved the good old Shot gun rushes, was intense
Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *New Commentary Added* 8/23/11
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:52 am
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Gears 2 is still 90% death from shotgun. At least for me. Maybe I just have bad luck lol. I can't wait to see what Dedicated servers is like as well. The beta i'm sure didn't have dedicated because I noticed a few times when the lag was clearly in favor of someone else.
Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *New Commentary Added* 8/23/11
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:59 am
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yeah, the nice thing about gears 3 [or the beta at least] was the fact you could be more passive if you wanted, or shotgun rush like it was gears 1 and be successful doing either with the right teammates. in that regard this is balance we haven't seen in previous gears games.
the beta did have servers, just REALLY off and on. if you didn't play much you might not have experienced them. it was beautiful running on them, and the difference was noticeable.
starting to be close enough to bust out the xbox and get used to the analog sticks again with the help of gears 2. trying to give myself enough time to get back into the swing of things before release, but not tooo early because gears 2 really bugs me.
Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *New Commentary Added* 8/23/11
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:07 am
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iSinnnn wrote:
yeah, the nice thing about gears 3 [or the beta at least] was the fact you could be more passive if you wanted, or shotgun rush like it was gears 1 and be successful doing either with the right teammates. in that regard this is balance we haven't seen in previous gears games.
the beta did have servers, just REALLY off and on. if you didn't play much you might not have experienced them. it was beautiful running on them, and the difference was noticeable.
starting to be close enough to bust out the xbox and get used to the analog sticks again with the help of gears 2. trying to give myself enough time to get back into the swing of things before release, but not tooo early because gears 2 really bugs me.
thumbs up to a lot of stuff you said. And id do Gears 1 to get used to it again. Gears 2 is painful dude.
Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *New Commentary Added* 8/23/11
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:03 am
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I hope they didn't change too much from the beta. I was hoping they would post a list of major changes they did make(if any). Weapon spawns are probably going to be changed, damage might be tweaked.
I'm super excited to see what the other Maps are. First thing I'm gonna do though is play through the campaign and some horde 2.0 before the multiplayer. Anyone know if Horde is still gonna be 5 players? I dislike playing in on Gears 2 sometimes because of how many ppl quit out as soon as they hit the minimum wave for an achievement...
Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *New Commentary Added* 8/23/11
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:36 pm
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William-CL wrote:
I hope they didn't change too much from the beta. I was hoping they would post a list of major changes they did make(if any). Weapon spawns are probably going to be changed, damage might be tweaked.
I'm super excited to see what the other Maps are. First thing I'm gonna do though is play through the campaign and some horde 2.0 before the multiplayer. Anyone know if Horde is still gonna be 5 players? I dislike playing in on Gears 2 sometimes because of how many ppl quit out as soon as they hit the minimum wave for an achievement...
Damage is being tweaked im pretty sure its been confirmed. Horde is 5 still, lots of new additions to it too. Gonna be really intense. Im sure they'll add something so people can keep joining in and out like a Player match of matchmaking. Hope they do at least
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:47 pm
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that's true, gears 1 is an option as well. the only thing i don't like about it besides the netcode is the fact you can't cancel your wallbounces. not used to that anymore and i end up getting superstuck everytime i try to wallbounce. which is primarily how i move around - so that's pretty inconvenient. probably will dabble in both games though. really love gears 1 maps.
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:29 pm
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hitokiri wrote:
William-CL wrote:
I hope they didn't change too much from the beta. I was hoping they would post a list of major changes they did make(if any). Weapon spawns are probably going to be changed, damage might be tweaked.
I'm super excited to see what the other Maps are. First thing I'm gonna do though is play through the campaign and some horde 2.0 before the multiplayer. Anyone know if Horde is still gonna be 5 players? I dislike playing in on Gears 2 sometimes because of how many ppl quit out as soon as they hit the minimum wave for an achievement...
Damage is being tweaked im pretty sure its been confirmed. Horde is 5 still, lots of new additions to it too. Gonna be really intense. Im sure they'll add something so people can keep joining in and out like a Player match of matchmaking. Hope they do at least
Well on Gears 2, if you do Social Horde, players can join in as well. I liked playing Ranked though because I hate joining in on a wave 20 something insane difficulty. I think I'm actually looking forward to Horde 2.0 more than the multiplayer lol.
Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *New Commentary Added* 8/23/11
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:18 am
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iSinnnn wrote:
that's true, gears 1 is an option as well. the only thing i don't like about it besides the netcode is the fact you can't cancel your wallbounces. not used to that anymore and i end up getting superstuck everytime i try to wallbounce. which is primarily how i move around - so that's pretty inconvenient. probably will dabble in both games though. really love gears 1 maps.
ah so i need to gow2 for wallbounce practice. got it
Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *New Commentary Added* 8/23/11
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:09 am
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pretty much. it appears my bestfriend/gears partna may not be able to play all that much as planned. he's going to be going through the turmoil of moving + the people he's moving in with are tools. doubt he'll get much gaming time in - or at least at first.
guess i'll have to, gasp, be social either on gears forums or in-game and find a group to run with. in less annoying news however: pretty much 23 more days
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:38 pm
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I got GW2 and i love playing it 1vs1 with friends, and i just found out horde mode. I continually get killed online though, and not respawning sucks <_>
I dont know why i posted this on a GW3 topic but yeah.
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:16 pm
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iSinnnn wrote:
pretty much. it appears my bestfriend/gears partna may not be able to play all that much as planned. he's going to be going through the turmoil of moving + the people he's moving in with are tools. doubt he'll get much gaming time in - or at least at first.
guess i'll have to, gasp, be social either on gears forums or in-game and find a group to run with. in less annoying news however: pretty much 23 more days
Sucks, my bestfriend/gears partna has been mostly MIA on xbl for a while now. And it makes me sad. But Ive been social and met some cool people I know its scary, but you will be okay!!
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I got GW2 and i love playing it 1vs1 with friends, and i just found out horde mode. I continually get killed online though, and not respawning sucks <_>
I dont know why i posted this on a GW3 topic but yeah.
Eh its a general gears topic really, till the 20th. Ive been makin myself do Gears 2 lately to play some of the maps I bought and hadnt played. Horde is lots of fun to do, especially with 5 people you know.
Try Annex or King Of the Hill. those dont have 1 life per round, and lets you get more used to playing I think.
Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *New Commentary Added* 8/23/11
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:01 pm
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@unbeatable - guardian is also a pretty popular variant if you want to find faster games, but you only respawn while your leader is alive so keep that in mind.
Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *New Commentary Added* 8/23/11
Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:58 am
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woo. i've spent the past few days playing gears 2 (15x xp and i started at 90, figured might as well get my wings since you get something in gears 3 for having the achievement.)
CONSTANTLY resisting the urge to slam my fist into my desk. almost done! at 98.7 or so now.
Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *New Commentary Added* 8/23/11
Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:07 am
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^ Tried to push through a single match. Insta shut off console when I blasted the same guy in the back almost point blank no less than 3 times with an active gnasher. Turned to one shot me. I think i'm gonna stop trying to play gears 2. I get on and it makes me think "why the Fuck am I getting Gears 3" sometimes. But I know it will be awesome.
On top of that, I think I got host banned. No idea wtf it would be from, but I can never start matches anymore when I used to host quite often. I hear that after a certain amount of time looking in social, if it can't find a match it makes one with you host, however that isn't the case, I just have to keep searching for 5+ minutes to get one with a host already.. Makes it hard for me to play because I go into Ranked and end up against a full party of level 100... Not fun.
Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *New Commentary Added* 8/23/11
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:57 am
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i believe it. the last lobby i was in on my push from 98-100, the host was afk the entire time. so that was convenient but. i literally walked up to him, steadied my shot on his upperback with the gnasher from pointblank range - he ate it. unbelievable inconsistency + the fact host gets mini god-mode makes for a lot rage inducing moments for sure.
i have a 30/15 connection and i pull host almost never. i don't really mind because i don't like being host, and don't want to end up relying on it. but i do wish i had it this weekend and i wish i have it everytime the connection is really bad.
normally i'd say just ignore their levels and try to have fun & playing with experienced/better players is a good way to get better but this game isn't worth it in the slighest unless you're trying to get your 100 or just really love gears like me. which is what makes the fact gears 2 is a joke painful for me.. i love the game to death, but it has absolutely no competitive merit and is so bullshit infested it's not even really fun either unless playing with a friend(s).
it has got me really, really excited for 3 though. i do wonder if they will be able to stay true to their word about the dedicated servers being up and stable. they know how many pre-orders and had the beta to get everything ready so there's no excuses in my eyes.
all blabbing aside, here's some info regarding gears 3 unlockables. no source so it MAY not be 100% true but i believe it to be mostly accurate.
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Every Gears 3 Weapon/Character skin & How to Unlock them! Aaron Griffin- Facebook promo Adam Fenix- Purchase Limited Edition, Epic Edition, or Console Bundle Commando Dom- Pre-Order from Gamestop Mechanic Baird- Pre-Order from BestBuy Savage Kantus- Pre-Order from Amazon Savage Grenadier Elite- Pre-Order from Walmart Thrashball Cole- Beta Unlock Golden Retro Lancer- Beta unlock Golden Lancer- have it unlocked in Gears 2 Golden Hammerburst- have it unlocked in Gears 2 Golden Gnasher- Veteran Gear Achievement Only *Having the Veteran Gear Achievement will unlock all 5 Gold Weapons* Flamming Hammerburst- Played week 1 of the Beta Flamming Lancer- Played week 2 of the Beta Flamming Sawed-Off- Played week 3 of the Beta Flamming Gnasher- Played week 4 of the Beta Infected Omen Weapons (All 5)- Purchase Epic Edition, Cosole Bundle, or Controller. Liquid Metal Weapons (All 5)- Purchase the Gears of War 3 “Season Pass” Chrome Lancer- Unlocked “Dont Hate the Player” Achievement in Gears 1 Chrome Hammerburst- Unlocked “Dirty, Dirty Horde” Achievement in Gears 2 Chrome Retro Lancer- Unlocked “Domination” Achievement in Gears 1 Chrome Sawed-Off- Unlocked any Achievement in Gears 1 PC (PC only) Chrome Gnasher- Complete the Campaign(any difficulty) for Gears 1,2,and 3.
Green Weapon Skins(All 5)- Promo has not yet been announced
Post subject: Re: Gears Of War 3 *New Commentary Added* 8/23/11
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:15 pm
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yea Gears 2 makes me sad. Not worth trying to improve on it as you cant improve on such a flawed and inconsistent system. I dont know if I can make it to 100, im at 41. It gets so painful to play that we'll see if I can make it to do it lol. Only few weeks till happiness sets in though.
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