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watching some MLG raleigh gears 3 early footage. they're talking to a guy from epic throughout the match.

confirmed changes:
retro hipfire recoil increased
hammerburst no longer has a damage modifier for headshots, active reload damage nerfed
lancer head/face damage modifier increased
sawed-off auto-down distance sounds like it was taken out, but it still does a little bit of damage outside of gib range so it still can down people. no other changes made to it.
"A LOT" of weapon skins.
execution now has a "man up" rule to go along with stalemates. whichever team has more players alive at the end of the time limit wins the round. if teams have an equal number of players, a stalemate occurs.
you can change your loadout between execution rounds. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU. somehow i saw it coming. fail.

side note: trenches looks really cool now. there's an underground tunnel below nest that's a well designed cave area. can enter it from either teams spawn, goes all the way through to the other teams spawn or you can come out in the middle of the hill going to oneshot/mulcher.

thrashball changes i noticed - a couple higher walls on the field, and sandbags placed uptop on each corner where everyone would sawed off camp the top of the stairs. i'm guessing that was the main reason for it. you're either on the sandbag or you're out where you can be seen now.

I like the map changes a lot, was needed I think. Glad they used the beta to fix how people were using the maps like that.

Id rather you couldnt change the loadout, but I guess it could come in handy if you are possibly trying something different with your team to come back from a lost round, or need to adjust because of how the enemy is playing. If the whole cog side is hammerburst/lancering from a distance, and I picked Retro & Sawed-off, yeah it would be a bit off balance. I guess its their way to try and let people even the playing field? Better then changing between spawns like you could!

Im excited though. My YT channel has gotten a little love with my beta stuff ive put out, but hoping it will go somewhere once the game is out. Workin on Dead Island till then

i agree about the maps. and that's true, but it's going to feel like a game of rock paper scissors rushing the power weapons in most spots. the snipe/torque on old town is one that instantly springs to mind. i don't mind switching AR's as it doesn't impact things near as much as being able to swap your shotgun out like that. it kind of interferes with them trying to speed the gameplay back up really. we'll see but i have a feeling it's going to be a main gripe for me.

that's cool, it probably will. i'm interested in getting a hdpvr around the holidays to start my own channel, but i'm not really sure what i'd need to run it. what do you use?

i have a pinnacle DVC 100, want a HD one. but its an external capture device, it hooks up into my USB, and A/V cables go into the DVC.

Pinnacle DVD recorder program that comes with it is how I record, and thats about it lol.

oh ok. i definitely want something to record with, the only problem is i'd need to start using my tv for xbox. currently i use my widescreen 22 inch monitor because i feel like 21-23 inches is the best size for competitive shooters. i think my tv though is more around 27-29.

not horrible but i don't know if i want to mess with my juju just to record/stream. but yeah, i'll be sure to sub to your channel next time i log into yt.

Sounds good, always happy to get another sub

Ive heard of that being the ideal size for gaming too. Need to get one that size for myself.

And, i just dreamed in Gears style. I need my fix soon haha

I have a 23 inch Monitor. haven't used it yet because I don't have an audio adapter for my speakers =\

this was jtagged by someone. shows off blood drive. (dlc map on the disc, probably coming in november. and some weapon skins.)

honestly i've always hated blood drive and while it looks like they did alter it a little, it's still the basic format that i hate. promotes camping with the incredibly STUPID nade spawns and the fact that rushing is done either uphill in an open area or in a pretty open hallway. hopefully the increased movement speed and the fact grenade tags are nowhere near as OP will save it. but i couldn't stand this map in gears 2 and i'd love if someone could tell me why they did, if they did.

i do realize man up rule will help it out a lot, but i would have much preferred jacinto. or river - i think it would run really well with gears 3.

mlg swaps made it a really good map, but less than 1% of the gears community plays those and it's done in customs.

ps. 3 days and a couple hours left gents!

Definitely not a map Ive enjoyed either, but honestly I think that without Gears 2 bugs and bs any of its maps would feel better. Can only really judge when we are on it, but I am just excited to play on a non-broken system.

Loving it. Loving it so much. Campaign is really well done & Intense so far, not even to Act 2 yet. Did a 8 person private TDM match with zero lag. Did some Quick TDMs, was beautiful. Just felt so good to play! Once I wrap up my finals at school, i can enjoy myself on there finally. So glad its here!!!!!

Look at my sigs, they portray how i feel

I'm not gonna be getting this till Oct 13th at the latest.. EFFFF!!!

i too love it. things are going down pretty much exactly how i expected. love the consistency 99% of the time, most of the maps aren't bad, the movement speed is excellent, the sniper is beautiful.

hate that sawed off though. i get the reasoning of the gun, but a big part of me still doesn't like it. mostly because it makes gridlock play different. speaking of that, has anyone played gridlock yet? something really cool happens usually somewhere in the middle of the game.

hotel. LOVE. favorite map by far.

Have played it, didnt notice or cant think of anything. I like overpass or whatevers effects in the background though.

Im more ok with the sawed off. just hate people who camp with it, but thats annoying with any gun. I think its better balanced though, and the gnasher is quite more deadly it seems now. I really need to get the gnasher down 100% again. Feels slightly different.

Love it though, love it all. Sandbar is interesting since its very much not a Gears type map. but it still works, and is fun because it has that different level of depth i think. Hotel is awesome. I have good memories on Overpass. <3 Boltok.

are you talking about how the map turns into night then that sad instrumental song plays? its kinda depressing...
and i HATE the sawed off and also team deathmatch... its bullshit how u get killed from across the map with the lancer... im used to execution style so they have to kill me from up close.

^ that's why. so cool. i don't hate team deathmatch, but it's not really gears of war to me so i don't play it much. i've spent 99% of my time in execution. i love it, but really wish they'd change the rounds back to 5. if i'm running with a full party and getting a bit quicker match times than parties of 1 or 2, then each round lasts ~1 min and we skunk them we end up spending as much time playing as we do searching for the next match. sort of lame.

yea that song! only no singing...
i also hate not playing 5 wins, matches are too quick

I got a match with it, loved it. Its the 2nd round of this game i just uploaded lol



Had no idea about it, and i love the song. So i was quitehappy to hear it, my party got a little more dramatic then me. but yeah was fun.

TDM is fun, but yeah I have started doing a bit of Execution again. Thats the real adrenaline filled gears. Because its all in that one life. I gotta make my way into ranked, although i can never seem to find a game lol.

**Edit**

Another video out.

I FCKIN HATE THE SAWED-OFF!!!!!!!!!
RAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
u seriously need NO skill with it...
thinking about goin back to gow2 -.-

lool. agreed. except on the gow2 part, that game was just awful. gears 3 has too much upside to stop playing over 1 weapon in my opinion. i play execution so it's not too bad. wouldn't want to play king of the hill that's for sure. probably destroys that gametype which is a shame.

mentally preparing myself for it probably helped. i still rage when it kills me though. it's the worst when you see the lights, know it's sawed off, roll away/back and it clips your big toe and your body flies into 100 million pieces. not to mention the idea behind the weapon is so flawed in so many ways. epic blows the big one, but i still love gears.

anyway. if you thought the sawed off was broken before, watch this video.

Yea Im not too shocked at the video. Its been clearly stated that the sawed off will spread wide. It is pretty ridiculous for sure. I have been using it a bit lately to work on medals toward a character, and its quite effortless and ridiculous. Gnasher is much more satisfying to kill with.

The big thing is, the playstyle needs to change to adapt to it. Widely turning corners is a start for sure, everyone is used to wall bouncing and stuff, which the SoS is basically an anti-corner hugging machine.

The Retro could kinda be labeled an anti-Sawedoff weapon. It drops people fast enough that it has definitely saved me in matches when i was being jumped by some Sawed off users.

I wish it didnt exist, but I really dont think they will ever remove it. Now what they could do is truly make it ineffective out of Melee range, that would change things. Because it would take skill Id say to make it that close to people, and be alive. And id say you do deserve a kill for that. The Gnasher can drop you, All the rifles can, etc. I hope Epic will do an update to further change it. The Retro is still painful, but id say its been well tweaked. The lancer is kinda crazy with how bad it hurts now, But i supposed it needed an edge as it wasnt being touched all beta long.

Im still gonna play, as Sin said, too many upsides to let it ruin for you.

i pretty much agree with everything you said for the most part. the big thing about the video with me was not the spread radius, which i already knew was going to be huge and was what was supposed to make the gun different for the most part, it was the fact that the sawed off can gib (1 shot blow you up for anyone who doesn't know) from FURTHER away than the gnasher can. giving it the advantage in both aspects.

retro is definitely an anti sawed off weapon imo. realized that too. if the majority of their team runs it i usually pull it out. sort of sucks i'm forced into it unless i want to be at a disadvantage but oh well. i think/hope they'll fix it to actually be melee range like they said it was going to be, but i really hope it's asap. i'm getting a little more annoyed with it by the day.

lancer can be pretty powerful in certain situations, and it definitely has the most utility out of the AR's, but man that hammerburst is pretty broken. it slows down gameplay almost as much as the sawed off but in a completely different way.

ok the retro lancer is the perfect way to counter the sawed off, yay!
im still pissed at all the noobs that camp corners with it though... cant counter those!!
plus ive been really playing like shit lately, and im still not used to team deathmatch given that i ONLY played execution in gow2, the whole concept of killing u with the lancer from far away is still retarded to me, im used to getting shot or curb stomped or something

I haven't gotten it yet, but when Im in an xbl party with my friend, he ONLY complains/rages when he gets killed by a sawed off camper. I have a feeling I'm gonna be only running it just to counter others doing it. I really love using the Primary rather than a secondary gun though.

It was at the point yesterday where I had to go SoS and a retro. I went positive K/D, i did well, bla bla. But Was it necessarily as fun? nah.

Wallbouncing is so fun, its something unique to this game. Gnasher takes skill to really center it on someone let alone center it on someone sliding and bouncing all over. To take what I felt was the most intense parts of gears (Gnasher Battles) and make it where, it stops all that in its track with a SoS. If the gnasher unfortunately decides to not one shot someone when i point blank them, and I have to get away from them for a second, well that doesnt happen. Because if the corner of my heel is in their screen as Im jumping, i die.

Im already starting to feel bored of the game a little bit, and that makes me sad. I love Gears, ive been waiting for it for so long, and I cant be bored already. But its not feeling the same at all.

Sawed Off is ridiculous at range and spread like you said Sin, to counter someone just running up and using it, they give the Retro. To not overpower that, they give the hammerburst which decimates people if you have a fast trigger finger, to not leave the Lancer high and dry, it can shoot for almost 9 seconds before having to reload, its quite painful, and it kinda has a bit of chainsaw suction again it seems (or at least negates shotgun shots to the body which would clearly kill someone at that range)

They need to fix it, i hope by the map pack they do so. I will have other games, but this is supposed to be my main squeeze. And those "Plusses outweighing the negtives" isnt applying as much each day. They have enough topics on Epic Forums to signal them that it needs to be fixed. Hope they're working on it.

I was so annoyed after a Month of Gears 2 Multiplayer that I resorted to only playing horde when I played. Now with Gears 3, I think that is definitely going to happen unless I'm in a full party with friends.

couldn't agree more hito. last night was the first night i cut my playing short cause i just wasn't feeling up to the bullshit. currently i still have mixed feelings, and i don't want to give up on the game until 2012 at least - but i may cut my playing time back and have to switch up playlists often to try to keep myself sane.

i had been sticking to ranked execution and have been in the top 100 since the first day but i think i'm going to allow myself to fall out of it. it's beginning to be a chore more than it is fun. the fact the matches only go to 3 rounds, and you spend more time searching than you do playing or really really close, is lame. what annoys me most about the rounds is that it has so much complaining and supporters to change it back to the way it was like it was supposed to be - and it wouldn't require a title update to change either. yet they haven't done it or even addressed it.

and now it seems the general strategy on half the maps is if win power weapon rush, probably up a person or maybe two, get back to a side of the map and camp it with man-up rule on your side and power weapons that don't respawn until you use ALL of it. gridlock, your pistol. sandbar, way in the back out in the middle of nowhere. etc. it's not really a big deal, but when i'm annoyed by the sawed off and hammerburst it definitely adds onto everything.

you hit the AR's right on the head. couldn't have said it any better myself. the lancer with a very very slight damage nerf would be perfect. the hammerburst and retro lancer can suck a fat one for all i care. i do wish there was a classic playlist. lancer, gnasher, snub, smoke grenade. just like the good ol' gears gods intended.

rounds to win should be 5 or at least 4 so you spend more time playing. round time limit should be 4 to speed the matches up enough. weapons(not grenades) should start respawning in execution/warzone when they are picked up, not when they are FULLY used so you have to work to keep map control if you want to keep an advantage.

rant mostly over. this game has such potential, and i still think it's awesome, but the fact it could be literally almost perfect with a few changes makes me disappointed. i do enjoy horde more than i enjoyed it in 2, but i can only play a game or two of it a day. it just doesn't give me the rush that MP gives me. although i wish it did.

They put too much time into this game, and love it too much to just let it be. If they want people buying map packs that they're workin on, then I think they'll help out.

Time will tell though. For now we can enjoy it in bits till its super awesome again

This topic reads like a list of reasons why not to get the game.

hahah i'm sure it sort of does. most of the stuff being ranted about is from veterans of gears MP though. and by veteran i mean people who played gears 1/2 multiplayer (mostly 1 though) a good amount and enjoyed what it was about.

if you were a person who was thinking of getting gears 3 and hadn't played the others, it probably wouldn't bother you as much or at all. just depends on what you're looking for out of your experience.

campaign, beast, and horde are great. i don't think there's any denying that the MP gameplay needs a few tweaks to make it less frustrating and more skill based.

I still love the game, ill still play it. Just until tweaks are done, not as much as I planned to. Lots of awesome aspects of the game, as Sin said, just some rants about it in comparison to past games.