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Aesthetic
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Post subject: SRF Community Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:32 am |
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okay i'm going to be honest with you, and i'm probably going to be flamed, heck even banned for saying this but i have to speak the truth.
in my opinion, i HATE people who type/act really professionally, such as in Artists Corner. i can't really explain it. but i can name a few people who type like that, but i won't. and there are certain people who absolutely ADORE each other like how some people act COMPLETELY different towards fena/hollastir/etc. i understand that these people have earned their respect but some people are really kissing asphalt. and like i said before Stop Typing So "Nerdy". this is a gaming forum!!! it's not just the perfect grammar, in fact i don't mind the grammar at all. it's the big complicated words and the way some people just seem to "show off" their better knowledge. there is one person i "hate". actually, i don't hate the person it's just the way he acts. and that person is faiien. i remember he used to type just like me all regular and he used to be a complete noob at posting until he made a sig and posted NSR. then someone critiqued it and he got "mad"? but later he said he was sorry blah blah and he started acting like the critic!!! he started typing all Perfect and tried to start using beetter grammar. and now he is criticizing other people's sigs like he was a professional. to be honest, the people he criticized, i liked their sigs way better than faiien. well i said what needed to come out. sorry for the "rudeness" but i just felt like saying it. i'm not asking everyone to start typing like OMGLOLL337NESS. i'm just asking you to cutdown on the...yeah. well i hope you understand. kbye one more thing. FAIien you're a POSER!!!. okay sorry
edit: i know i am not the coolest person in the world, i know i dont make the best sigs, i might even be the worst person to some of you and in some people's opinions, i might make the worst sigs. just letting you know that i'm not being hypocritical
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Post subject: Re: SRF Community Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:23 am |
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Posting a thread "SRF Community" then going on to express your hate at one single person is not the mature way you go in accomplishing what you want Aesthetic.
If you have a problem towards a certain user, you should PM one of the mods or admins, or that person himself. If we find the behaviour of the person you've noted inappropriate we will take actions.
You've mentioned you hate people acting professional. Does that include me? Does it make you hate me only because I actually type out my sentences, care about my grammar, so I can actually convey my thoughts properly to other people? This is indeed a gaming forum, but it doesn't cut the right of some mature people from posting here.
Perhaps you just have to stop thinking we're all "acting" like mature people "trying to sound professional".
Leaving this topic open for now, I find it that it has room for discussion. Mods, close this as you see necessary =).
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Post subject: Re: SRF Community Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:29 am |
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nah i don't hate you. as i said, only a few people. not all people who type/act "professionally"
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:33 am |
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well, there are some things to be said here.
if you post a NSR topic in AC, you want comments. thats what the AC is for. some people are not that good at ps, but they do have an opinion on what they think looks nice and what not. i myself have worked with ps quite some time, but i do not make the best sigs. hell, i make ugly sigs every now and then. still, i have the right to have my opinion on sigs other people make. not because i can do better, but because i know what can make sigs look nicer and i like to share my opinion with others. i believe the person you are talking about does exactly the same thing.
about sucking up to others, i'm not sure what you mean. of course, there are people that have spent quite some time on this forum and respect eachother, therefor act differently towards eachother.
last thing i have to say about this, you stated this is a "gaming forum". you have probably forgotten that more than half the forum has already quit the game, and is here for that community you just had your rant about. these people are active in the off-topic lounge and the AC. just about every gaming forum that has been set up by fans have these sections and imo, because of these sections, because it's not just about the game, this forum is so succesful. and the use of big words... idk, some people just like to do that on the net. i guess you'll just have to live with that ;]
and no, you will not be banned for this. everybody has his right to his/her opinion on this forum. i just hope that, when you have been here longer, you will understand that this community is not that bad. every forum has his good and his bad people.. we are lucky this forum is mostly filled with good ones.
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Post subject: Re: SRF Community Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:22 am |
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Tbh i find it more convenient to read texts that were taken care of with correct grammar / spelling rules. But yeah, that's just me. It also helps me improve my English =)
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Post subject: Re: SRF Community Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:17 am |
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I highly doubt people use correct grammar to show off and feel 'better' than others. Aswell as some people aren't too concerned about it, others are. After all it's fine as long as other people understand what you are trying to tell, not?  I find it important to use correct grammar. English isn't my native language, but I really want to learn it well, and using the correct grammar is a way for me to learn it. About the comments and critism in the Artist Corner, I'm very fond of it. Although I rarely post there, I usually check out the signatures and it surprises me what beautiful pieces of art people manage to create. It's so nice to see that people help each other. Someone who just started using Photoshop and made a new sig, and posts it and asks for other opinions and tips. Such kind of critism, where the creator can learn from, is, IMO, very important. If everyone'd just say ' Nice sig.' or ' Terrible sig.', how can one learn and improve his skills? Of course you don't always have to agree with all the critism, after all, the creator, whether a newbie or not, can have his own ideas about what he created. Try not to get too annoyed about it. Maybe in your eyes someone's a poser, but maybe he's really helping out the artist he commented. 
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Post subject: Re: SRF Community Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:19 pm |
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Depends where you look in the community. If you're looking in GD, it's a lot of 'lets see who has the bigger e-penis', 'I'm in the wrong but I'm going to act like I'm not' and 'I support bots, but not directly, and because I don't say that, I'm safe.'
Seriously, when I joined this community was friendly. Now it's gone to hell and the mentioning of 'Avalon' sparks a flame war. I'm sick and tired to the point where I don't feel like helping this community, even though they have a right to know. Because most people are just so bloody ignorant.
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Post subject: Re: SRF Community Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:32 pm |
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Necrobat wrote: Seriously, when I joined this community was friendly. Now it's gone to hell and the mentioning of 'Avalon' sparks a flame war. next time that happens, press the report button and we will ook into it. with this new feature we can respond to flaming quicker.
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Post subject: Re: SRF Community Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:44 pm |
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lol ofcourse it causes flames, what you guys expecting. you got the fort, you're pissing bots on venus all the day yet you think you'll be ok and everyone lves you lol.
success create jealousy, jealousy creates hate
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Post subject: Re: SRF Community Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:46 pm |
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Tbh, i dont really understand about typing ''nerdy''. It aint easy reading a piece of text without the use of punctuation (dunno if you wer talking about tht aswell). Kinda just looked like u wanted to express a view on a member.
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Post subject: Re: SRF Community Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:56 am |
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Aesthetic wrote: in my opinion, i HATE people who type/act really professionally, such as in Artists Corner.i can't really explain it. but i can name a few people who type like that, but i won't. Good luck in life. If you dont wanna try and be professional then thats your problem.However its completely ludicrous that you would hate other people for trying to act professional.That was probably the worst opening statement for an argument I've ever read. Aesthetic wrote: and there are certain people who absolutely ADORE each other like how some people act COMPLETELY different towards fena/hollastir/etc. i understand that these people have earned their respect but some people are really kissing asphalt. When you've been on the forum for a long or moderately long period of time and you've actually contributed to the forum or thread you earn something called seniority. This means that people tend to respect you more than noobs that pop on, do one or two thing, give up, then leave. I have taste and class so I'am not gonna call any names or point any fingers. Aesthetic wrote: and like i said before Stop Typing So "Nerdy". this is a gaming forum!!! it's not just the perfect grammar, in fact i don't mind the grammar at all. it's the big complicated words and the way some people just seem to "show off" their better knowledge.there is one person i "hate". actually, i don't hate the person it's just the way he acts. and that person is faiien. i remember he used to type just like me all regular and he used to be a complete noob at posting until he made a sig and posted NSR. In the beginning I did use a more casual vocabulary because i was relatively new to the forums and somtimes being casual is a good way to introduce yourself. But the more I posted in the AC the more i realized that if i used more appropriate English and used more descriptive words i can more easily get my point across to my audience or whoever is reading the post. I dont deny being a noob and I'am positive everyone here has been a noob but nowhere does it say that i cant improve myself for the better and try to seek respect by becoming more professional. That is exactly why I started speding 3 to 4 hours on a sig instead of 1 and actually taking time to absorb criticism and using it for my ladder sig. For you to say that you hate a person or the way he acts based on his vocabulary and his proper grammar is completely absurd. Theres a name for people just like you. Their called philistines. Go look it up. Aesthetic wrote: then someone critiqued it and he got "mad"? but later he said he was sorry blah blah and he started acting like the critic!!! he started typing all Perfect and tried to start using beetter grammar. I have addressed this before. I was a noob and wasnt used to anyone critiquing my work. This is the first forum that I have participated in with a good artist base that can give excellent advice. But at first I rejected it because I was so full of myself but after i looked at things in perspective I realized that i shouldnt be mad at the people rating my sigs but I should be taking their advice to better improve myself and prove to them that I have potential and I can be just as good as they are. This is also the point where i decided to start improving my vocab to communicate better with the members in the AC. I still dont see what the negative is in this situation and I have yet to see you prove any point. Aesthetic wrote: and now he is criticizing other people's sigs like he was a professional. to be honest, the people he criticized, i liked their sigs way better than faiien. Ok, so you like other people's sigs better than mine. Everyone has their own taste and everyone likes a different style. Just because you like the color pink doesnt mean everyone else has to. Just because you like to continue to be a noob doesnt mean everyone else does. And just because you hate people who have a higher standard of education doesnt mean everyone else does. I don't ever recall saying that i was a Pro so i have no idea where you got that. Even if I dont make the greatest sigs ever doesnt mean I dont know what looks good and what doesnt. When people that I have never seen a sig from rate my sigs and tell me they dont like certain things or they do like certain things I dont discredit their opinions at all. I take it as if they were any other photoshop pro, because even though they dont have much art experience they know what they like to see visually and they know whats visually aesthetic and whats not. Aesthetic wrote: i'm not asking everyone to start typing like OMGLOLL337NESS. i'm just asking you to cutdown on the...yeah. well i hope you understand. kbye one more thing. FAIien you're a POSER!!!. okay sorry So your suggesting to everyone on the forum to basically "dumb it down" for you? hmmm...ic. Iam not even gonna address this because I think thats your own personal issue and you need to resolve that yourself. If your gonna accuse me of being a poser then please tell me why you think so. Is it because I use big words that you cant understand? Is it because I'am nonlinear and i can improve and keep getting better and better? Or is it because your simply jealous that your own skills are tarnishing while mine are getting more lustrous because I actually practice daily and take advice from other members? Aesthetic wrote: edit: i know i am not the coolest person in the world, i know i dont make the best sigs, i might even be the worst person to some of you and in some people's opinions, i might make the worst sigs. just letting you know that i'm not being hypocritical Really? So basically you were addressing the fact that i judge other people's signatures rudely and or immaturely, when in fact I just try and get to the flaws and point out what needs improvements, anyways i digress, thats a convo for another time. So what exactly are you doing in this post? I got the feeling you were judging me rudely and immaturely I understand that maybe at your current age you might not understand some of these things. Which might also lead to my understanding of how immaturely you acted in this situation like someone else who also tried to challenge me today. All I can say in my defense, is that if you dont like me then please continue to do so. If you wish to despise me and tell everyone about it then also please continue to do so. If you also wish to publicly humiliate yourself by posting such childish and irrational posts then be my guest. But please, do not think I am a sitting duck. If you have a point, I 'll admit it. However if your statements involving me are contrary to my understanding of myself be prepared to defend your statements and your point of view because they will be challenged. Are you up for the challenge? 
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Post subject: Re: SRF Community Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:18 am |
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lol Faiien. most of the things you said in "your defense" is true. but nah. some are totally off. like for one, you think you have a better knowledge than me just because i like casual talk better than classy/well-mannered speech. i just think people would be more comfortable talking with people who they can understand. and honestly, all the words that you use i can comprehend and i know exactly what they mean. if somebody uses a word that i don't know, i just look it up on dictionary.com. and i'm going to go ahead and say everyone has the freedom of speech. i know, totally hypocritical because i'm asking people to change the way they talk. but yeah okay that's my fault. but if you're going to talk about me, you should get your facts straight. who knows, i could even be smarter than you. and when you say you spend 3-4 hours on a signature, i think wow. total waste of time. not because you spend hours on photoshop, it's because you spend 3-4 hours making something mediocre. yeah my "skills" are fading and yours are "blossoming" sure. but ask me something, DO I CARE? no not really. why would i be jealous? i could probably just kick back into photoshop and quickly get to where you are now. no i'm not bragging it's just a guess. and honestly, i think some of your signatures are nice. but when you start criticizing people about things YOU haven't even mastered, doesn't that seem funny to you? bah i forget what i was going to say. oh yeah am i up to the challenge? lol sure. i dont really care about your opinion, you can publically humiliate me if you want sure go ahead lol you won't see me writing an essay in arguement. just tell me where it'll be so i can laugh along 
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Post subject: Re: SRF Community Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:51 am |
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Quote: but when you start criticizing people about things YOU haven't even mastered, doesn't that seem funny to you? No, not at all. Do you think food critics are great cooks? Or film critics could make great a film? I highly doubt it. You dont have to be able to make something to tell if it could be improved or not.
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Post subject: Re: SRF Community Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:40 pm |
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Aesthetic wrote: you think you have a better knowledge than me just because i like casual talk better than classy/well-mannered speech. I dont know where you came from, but in the real world, this is the easiest way we can separate the idiots from the geniuses. If you like "casual talk" then go on right ahead and continue. Nobody is stopping you or asking you to stop. Aesthetic wrote: but if you're going to talk about me, you should get your facts straight. who knows, i could even be smarter than you. Oh ya good way to prove it. Make a thread to convince people to tone down their vocabulary and tell people you hate someone because their trying to improve themselves. That really shows your intelligence/maturity. Aesthetic wrote: and when you say you spend 3-4 hours on a signature, i think wow. total waste of time. not because you spend hours on photoshop, it's because you spend 3-4 hours making something mediocre. Sorry to say this honestly, but my mediocre piece of art is good practice for the field that i want to go into after High School so it's probably gonna help land me a job. If you think it's mediocre then thats your right/taste/opinion but again just because you think its not that great doesnt mean that everyone else has the same thoughts as you. Aesthetic wrote: yeah my "skills" are fading and yours are "blossoming" sure. Hmmm...dont mean to offend you but iam not even sure you had that much "skill" to begin with. So that was an error on my part, sorry. Aesthetic wrote: but ask me something, DO I CARE? no not really. no not really. why would i be jealous? Ok...thank you for once again pointing out your opinion? If you dont care then than why are you doing this? I got the idea that this whole argument was because you wanted me to stop critiquing artists so hard on their. But if you dont really care about your own art as well then what's the purpose of this argument? What exactly are you trying to prove to people? That I am a bad person? I am a poser? I am a wolf in some sort of cheep wool? Aesthetic wrote: no i'm not bragging it's just a guess. Aesthetic wrote: i could probably just kick back into photoshop and quickly get to where you are now. ladies and gentlemen of the srf forum, i present exhibit A. Telling someone that you could get back into photoshop and quickly get to my level...is I am afraid...bragging. Aesthetic wrote: and honestly, i think some of your signatures are nice. but when you start criticizing people about things YOU haven't even mastered, doesn't that seem funny to you? not really, i've never laughed during a critique...well except that one time. And I'am not really disproving this one cause the guy above me already did (thx Innovacious) Aesthetic wrote: dont really care about your opinion, you can publically humiliate me Um...sorry to break it to ya but your doing most of the work for me. Aesthetic wrote: if you want sure go ahead lol you won't see me writing an essay in arguement. just tell me where it'll be so i can laugh along  If this were an essay I would have wrote 2 Pages XD. Anyways, no i dont really wanna embarrass or humiliate you I still think of you as a member of the AC and I still think of you as any other person. But i believe you handled this situation very poorly. You could have simply pmed me and told me your point of view and I would have responded to that, and we could have resolved this conflict in a peaceful and quite manner. But you chose to display your dissatisfaction openly to the srf community and ...well i hate to break it to ya but most of them disagree with you. Next time you have a problem with someone i suggest you do things under the table via pm unless you want a great argument to break out then hey it's all good.
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